Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-08 Thread Julius Fazekas
Pretty simple Jim, I'm old ;o) I probably have three copies of this tutorial printed in various locations, but never where I need it when I have time to search. On the other hand, I do recall the size and material of the item in question. Usually that's an easy way to search for surplus parts,

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-08 Thread Adam Koczarski
> -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- > boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:57 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids > > On

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-08 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:01:30 -0700, Mike Scott wrote: Very good advice, Mike. Other good distributors are listed in my tutorial and on the Fair-Rite website. The ham distributors whose names you recognize are the WORST choices -- very expensive, very high markups. I'm hoping that WX0B (Array Sol

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-08 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
Mike and all, Loadstone quoted $5.4506 each for quantities of 1 to 249 pieces. They do have a minimum order of $50. Very nice on the phone. I'm ordering for our Tennessee Contest Group, so we will exceed the minimum by a little bit ;o) This should kill the last of the garbage on my 160M anten

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-08 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:23:15 -0700 (PDT), Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote: > I see it's a pretty common question once I found the part number... I don't get it. I went to a LOT of trouble to write that tutorial, then post a link to it in response to questions like this, tell people where to look, and

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-08 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
f the tongue you may never get over." Ben Franklin -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:50 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix t

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-08 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:37:40 -0700 (PDT), Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote: >Jim, ask for a quote from whom? WX0B or Fair-Rite? For small and medium quantities, WX0B. For large quantity ($500-$1,000 min order, buy only in box quantities), Fair-Rite or other distributions listed on their website and in

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Mike Scott
>Fair-Rite has a quite high minimum order value, several hundred dollars as >I recall. OTOH Mouser stocks most of the 31 material you would likely find >useful including the 2.4 inch toroids and the monster snap-on. The Fair->Rite web site has all the technical info you will need to cross-referen

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
arty: Sunday, 6 Sept 2009 http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Svend Spanget wrote: > From: Svend Spanget > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids > To: "Julius Fazekas n2wn" > Cc: elecraft@mai

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Chuck - AE4CW
nessee QSO Party: Sunday, 6 Sept 2009 http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Svend Spanget wrote: > From: Svend Spanget > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids > To: "Julius Fazekas n2wn" > Cc: elecraft@mailman.

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Julius Fazekas
w.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Svend Spanget wrote: > From: Svend Spanget > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids > To: "Julius Fazekas n2wn" > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:24 AM >

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Svend Spanget
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-07 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
Thanks to all for the replies... Didn't quite get an answer to the -J versus -31, but still useful. Jim, ask for a quote from whom? WX0B or Fair-Rite? Cheers, Julius On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:03:50 -0400, Jack Smith wrote: >You might wish to experiment with Steward mix 35 or 40 toroids. Mix 35

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:03:50 -0400, Jack Smith wrote: >You might wish to experiment with Steward mix 35 or 40 toroids. Mix 35 >has a relative permeability of 5000 and mix 40 is 10,000. Fair-Rite's 31 >material has a relative permeability of 1500. Relative permeabilility varies with frequency --

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-06 Thread David Cutter
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids > You might wish to experiment with Steward mix 35 or 40 toroids. Mix 35 > has a relative permeability of 5000 and mix 40 is 10,000. Fair-Rite's 31 > material has a relative permeability of 1500. > > Digikey carries sev

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-06 Thread Jack Smith
I should also mention that Mouser carries some Fair-Rite mix 31 cores. They are in the catalog at Fair-Rite -- http://www.mouser.com/catalog/637/917.pdf is the current catalog page. Jack K8ZOA Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote: > I know there are several folks here who could answer this questions. > >

Re: [Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-06 Thread Jack Smith
You might wish to experiment with Steward mix 35 or 40 toroids. Mix 35 has a relative permeability of 5000 and mix 40 is 10,000. Fair-Rite's 31 material has a relative permeability of 1500. Digikey carries several sizes of toroid cores in mix 35 and 40 at moderate price. Search DigiKey's web si

[Elecraft] OT: J and -31 mix toroids

2009-04-06 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn
I know there are several folks here who could answer this questions. I'm looking to improve my current chokes for my 160 and 80 Tx antennas. I was planning on going with -43 material, but after reading thought -J and/or -31 mixes might be a better solution. The 31 mix seems a bit more difficu