Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2005-01-29 Thread Bob - W5BIG
h leads. 73/ Bob - W5BIG - Original Message - From: "Larry Makoski W2LJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? > A "trick" that I learned was to take a long piece of solid "

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2004-08-11 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
41 SMT related posts in the last couple of days. Wow! Looks like we've beaten it to death. Time to let this thread rest. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List moderator ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscri

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-11 Thread Stuart Rohre
Yes, the Princess line of irons with replaceable tips can be used for SMT. Stuart K5KVH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://ma

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-11 Thread Stuart Rohre
Sandy, What kind of soldering station do you have now? How about $5 to put you in SMD capable soldering set up? Or maybe $10 outside, the cost of a proper tip if you have a heat controlled station now. 750 tips would do it, with the narrow end suited to 1206 pads. 73, Stuart K5KVH _

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-11 Thread Stuart Rohre
SMT: Actually, you can use your present soldering station if it is heat controlled, and just get a smaller conical 750 degree tip for the Weller, or Ungar lines. For home use, this works for 1206 components well enough. The secret is to not apply heat too long, you are not soldering like you did

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Sandy W5TVW
W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Frank C Van Cleef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? | Who needs an expensive "soldering station" for SMT? I've built a couple of | SMT projects with a standard solderi

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Sandy W5TVW
o: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? | I wrote: | | >> SMT construction is specifically designed *only* for machine | >> assembly. IMO, any SMT kit must come with almost all the SMT | >> components pre-assembled to the PC

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Larry Makoski W2LJ
A "trick" that I learned was to take a long piece of solid "bell wire" or hookup wire (copper) about 6- 8 inches long. Remove the insulation and wrap a coil around your soldering iron tip. Bring the last bit of wire out, parallel to the axix of the soldering iron. Plug the iron, in, let the wire

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Bill Tippett
Richard, I already sent you my comments directly as you requested, but feel I should respond to some of the comments posted here. By way of background, the only SMT parts I had used previously were mounting 5 SMT caps on an Inrad roofing filter kit for my Orion. That went well so

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Mike Morrow
I wrote: >> SMT construction is specifically designed *only* for machine >> assembly. IMO, any SMT kit must come with almost all the SMT >> components pre-assembled to the PC boards to be acceptable. To which Blake responded: >Misinformation. The fact that some humans can manage to assembl

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread John Payne
Who needs an expensive "soldering station" for SMT? I've built a couple of SMT projects with a standard soldering station (using a fine tip)with no problem. If one looks for excuses, one can find them, and never do or learn anything new! There are many cheap and easy tricks for SMT work, if one

RE: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sandy W5TVW > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:18 PM > To: Frank C Van Cleef; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? > > One "reason" I don&

RE: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morrow > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:35 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? > > I would *never* buy any kit that requires more t

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread James T. "Jim" Rogers
Now that Wayne Burdick has a great idea. An introductory kit to SMT devices. That is why I like Elecraft. Thinking folks. As the cordinator for a "build day" for our local radio club, I embarked upon a small inexpensive kit search that would give our novice builders the biggest

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Sandy W5TVW
r missing parts on my "unclean room" workshop!!) Big smile ;^) 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: "Frank C Van Cleef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? | | With all due respect to those of

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Trev - K6ESE
Actually, I find surface mount components much easier to replace in most cases than through hole parts. Especially when you are prototyping and you have to change components often. No holes to clean out, no plate throughs to damage, no leads to clip. Once you get used to the size of the parts and a

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread n4gi
- Original Message - From: Mike Morrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:34 am Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? > SMT construction is specifically designed *only* for machine > assembly. IMO, any SMT kit must come with almost all the SMT >

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Harris
G'day, > I would *never* buy any kit that requires more than an item or two of SMT > work. SMT construction is specifically designed *only* for machine > assembly. IMO, any SMT kit must come with almost all the SMT components > pre-assembled to the PC boards to be acceptable. Well I guess "thr

RE: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Lesee... The design of clocks, especially mechanical watches, has always fascinated me. I built a 24-inch long model of the USS Constitution once with about half a jillion tiny knots in the rigging, all done by hand using tweezers. With that background, I simply found the advent of SMC's "interes

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Rod N0RC
Mike, - Original Message - From: "Mike Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? > I would *never* buy any kit that requires more than an item or two of SMT > work. SMT construction is speci

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Mike Morrow
I would *never* buy any kit that requires more than an item or two of SMT work. SMT construction is specifically designed *only* for machine assembly. IMO, any SMT kit must come with almost all the SMT components pre-assembled to the PC boards to be acceptable. I'm not against SMT. In fact, I

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Frank C Van Cleef
With all due respect to those of us who have to squint ever harder to see what used to stand out clearly: I, for one, would be delighted to have a kit based primarily on SMT devices to try my hand at. I have a fine-tip iron and an Optovisor at hand, and I love to build kits, so if SMT is the com

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Sandy W5TVW
27;m concerned! I played that game when I was younger, but no more! Have fun with the Surface mounted stuff guys> 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: "Steve, G4GXL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT:

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Steve, G4GXL
> SMT work requires ... a few pieces of extra equipment if one is to be successful < One useful piece of 'extra equipment' is a vacuum cleaner with a piece of nylon stocking stretched over the nozzle. Then instead of spending 30 minutes on your hands and knees looking for the SMD component that y

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Richard, SMT work requires some parts handling techniques and a few pieces of extra equipment if one is to be successful. If you are going to be building electronic equipment, it is something you may want to persue. The first thing needed is to develop a gentle hand with the tweezers to adequate