Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Sebastian Rose
Dan Davison writes: > Sebastian Rose writes: > >> Carsten Dominik writes: > org-install would figure out where org.el is, add to .emacs and query > for compilation. This wouod make things independent from make and > other tools. Yes I wondered about making something like t

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Dan Davison
Sebastian Rose writes: > Carsten Dominik writes: org-install would figure out where org.el is, add to .emacs and query for compilation. This wouod make things independent from make and other tools. >>> >>> Yes I wondered about making something like that yesterday (would it make >

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Sebastian Rose
Carsten Dominik writes: >>> org-install would figure out where org.el is, add to .emacs and query >>> for compilation. This wouod make things independent from make and >>> other tools. >> >> Yes I wondered about making something like that yesterday (would it make >> sense to have emacs do everyth

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Giovanni Ridolfi
Carsten Dominik writes: > On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Dan Davison wrote: > >> Carsten Dominik writes: >> >>> On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Dan Davison wrote: >>> I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly. [...] I suggest w

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Dan Davison wrote: Carsten Dominik writes: On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Dan Davison wrote: I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this sound much harder than it

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-27 Thread Dan Davison
Carsten Dominik writes: > On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Dan Davison wrote: > >> I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made >> more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all >> this >> sound much harder than it needs to be, and I suspect that this is a

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Richard Riley
Rémi Vanicat writes: > Richard Riley writes: > >> You have no idea how pleased I am to hear you say that ... I sometimes >> wondered if I should go back to notepad ;) When asking the #emacs irc it >> seemed I was the only one in the world that constantly had issues. Of >> course mentioning "Debi

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Rémi Vanicat
Richard Riley writes: > You have no idea how pleased I am to hear you say that ... I sometimes > wondered if I should go back to notepad ;) When asking the #emacs irc it > seemed I was the only one in the world that constantly had issues. Of > course mentioning "Debian" immediately saw me get the

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Adam
On Monday 27 September 2010 02:52 am, Dan Davison wrote: > Hi Richard, > > Richard Riley writes: > > Dan Davison writes: > >> I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made > >> more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this > >> sound much harder t

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Achim Gratz
Dan Davison writes: > OK, so we're agreed. But your points below don't seem to describe a less > technical route. Could you describe the less technical version of the > instructions for the method that you are advocating? Installing is something technical and I'm a tech-head, so you're asking som

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Dan Davison
Achim Gratz writes: > Dan Davison writes: > >> I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made >> more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this >> sound much harder than it needs to be, and I suspect that this is an >> entry-barrier for new Org use

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Achim Gratz
Dan Davison writes: > I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made > more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this > sound much harder than it needs to be, and I suspect that this is an > entry-barrier for new Org users. For example, the first th

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Richard Riley
Dan Davison writes: > Hi Richard, > > Richard Riley writes: > >> Info files are the issue. The addition to the infopath of the new info >> files is frequently an issue too. I say that because emacs info is my >> nemesis : I have never *properly* understood the way dir files work and >> frequentl

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Sep 26, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Dan Davison wrote: Hi Richard, Richard Riley writes: Dan Davison writes: I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this sound much harder than it needs to be, a

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Dan Davison
Hi Richard, Richard Riley writes: > Dan Davison writes: > >> I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made >> more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this >> sound much harder than it needs to be, and I suspect that this is an >> entry-barrier

[Orgmode] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions

2010-09-26 Thread Richard Riley
Dan Davison writes: > I think that the documentation concerning installation should be made > more user-friendly. My impression is that the Org manual makes all this > sound much harder than it needs to be, and I suspect that this is an > entry-barrier for new Org users. For example, the first th