Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Engineering org charts

d be extremely time > consuming. > > _______ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

d the Indian subcontinent. And we do have a grants programme: check out http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant :). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists

[Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

The answer, evidently, is "not as much as Bing" - http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2161910/Bing-Not-Google-Favors-Wikipedia-More-Often-in-Search-Results-Study Thought people might find it interesting :) -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Article Landing Pages - functional prototype to test and comment on

how to activate the secret Option 3, > which skips the sandbox altogether for future article creation. > (Probably a preference somewhere...) > > Steve > > > Great ideas all :). I agree there needs to be more of a distinction in language, and an absence of suppor

[Foundation-l] Article Landing Pages - functional prototype to test and comment on

but if you have suggestions as to how we should improve the tool itself, you can send them to me at oke...@wikimedia.org, or to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Article_Creation_Workflow/Landing_System, where the devs are watching closely :). Thanks! -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product De

Re: [Foundation-l] Communicating effectively: Wikimedia needs clear language now

hops alongside other things?-- > It's perfectly sensible; I believe what tom means is that if you're undertaking a larger effort to increase outreach, it is fairly clear what the workshops that are part of that effort are aiming to achieve. It could have been phrased as "Six w

Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

> Surely normal social convention applies; if someone raises the issue then > "Don't be a dick" and take extra care. Otherwise slip > ups/confusion/mistakes shouldn't be the end of the world... > > If we're discussing this; my name is correctly pronounced &q

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department & Promotion of Philippe Beaudette

On 10 February 2012 02:32, Mono wrote: > I think the better question is "what will this department actually do?" > > " For details, please go to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal/LCA_Announcement."; ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

On 9 February 2012 23:14, George Herbert wrote: > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > As said above...it is being moved ;p > > Where / on which lists were the location experiments discussed prior > to implementation? Both with regards to the locations to

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

> quite a bit of time researching. Having said that, we do need to be > > careful about creating a "someone else's problem" dynamic. One way to do > > this is to keep making sure these readers know that they can make the > > change themselves. > > > > Howie

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

ion in any way at all, > that's a big improvement over the present. Let's see how it works out. > (With numbers.) > > > - d. > > _______ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedi

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

of it was "stuff I can use". On 9 February 2012 04:44, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > We'll experiment with wordings as the testing progresses. On your other > > point - again, how can we find this out without testin

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

3:25 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > On the first one, no idea - if you have any idea how we can test this > > without full deployment, please, go ahead. > > feedback was sent to contributors? > did the contributor make use of the feedback? > if not, why not? > > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

On the first one, no idea - if you have any idea how we can test this without full deployment, please, go ahead. On the second, it should scale; we're using a randomised sample (minus DAB pages) On 9 February 2012 04:17, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Oliv

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

needed) > * Eventually gets activated by a Shellie. > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Oliver K

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

Okay, Minata: looks like I was right; if wikis want it after the design process is finished, they can just ask for it. On 9 February 2012 02:31, Oliver Keyes wrote: > Minata: I imagine the plan is "deploy on enwiki, and if other wikis ask > for it, they can have it too", b

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

22, Minata Hatsune wrote: > Uhm. Can I require to enable in any project through MediaZilla (such > as my homewiki)? Anyway, it should be deployment to many wiki, help > improve content quality. > > 2012/2/9, Oliver Keyes : > > We'll hopefully be finishing up developme

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

s? It is very useful, and > necessary for all Wikimedia wikis. > Thanks! > > 2012/2/9, Oliver Keyes : > > As said above...it is being moved ;p > > > > On 9 February 2012 01:18, MZMcBride wrote: > > > >> Oliver Keyes wrote: > >> > Wel

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

As said above...it is being moved ;p On 9 February 2012 01:18, MZMcBride wrote: > Oliver Keyes wrote: > > Well, that would be part of the Article Feedback Tool, Version 5. We're > > experimenting around with new placements - personally, I *loathe* this > > desi

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

oundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list found

Re: [Foundation-l] Fw: Strike against the collection of personal data through edit links

ps://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Extension:ClickTracking<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ClickTracking> >>>>> >? >>>>> >>>>> MZMcBride >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __**_ >>>>> foundation-l mailing list >>>>> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.**org >>>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/** >>>>> mailman/listinfo/foundation-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l> >>>>> >>>>> __**_ >>>> foundation-l mailing list >>>> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.**org >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/** >>>> mailman/listinfo/foundation-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation >>> >>> Support Free Knowledge: >>> http://wikimediafoundation.**org/wiki/Donate<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __**_ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.**org >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/foundation-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l> >> > > -- > Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation > > Support Free Knowledge: > http://wikimediafoundation.**org/wiki/Donate<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate> > > __**_ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.**org > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/foundation-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l> > -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

onho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > On 1 February 2012 21:42, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > > You're misunderstanding; I'm saying the Board of Trustees nominations > > happening on the chapters wiki is open merely to the representatives of > > chap

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

rustees of each chapter should be at the forefront of that. But are they selected with that role in mind? On 1 February 2012 23:44, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Oliver Keyes > wrote: > > No; it's open to several chapters. If you're planning on holdin

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

the other half of the board. I am > surprised > > > why questions about their interest and representation aren't raised on > > > every new appointment? > > > > > > The chapter selected member, at least go through a vetting and a voting > > > pr

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

er, at least go through a vetting and a voting > process that is open to several chapters and thousand of members. > > Regards > Theo > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lis

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

d.[1] > > In the 2012 chapter board election, 39 chapters consisting of more > than 4000 identified people will be voting.[2] > > Unfortunately neither process captures a large percentage of the > active Wikimedian community. > > 1. see bottom of > https://meta.wikimedia

[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool - Office Hours, 27th January, 19:00 UTC

Hey guys We'll be holding another AFT office hours session at 19:00 tomorrow, in #wikimedia-office; hope to see a lot of you there :). If you can't make it, drop me an email and I'll send you the logs. Thanks! -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikim

Re: [Foundation-l] Adding a comment section under every Wikipedia article

Sure; if the objective is to have comments by "people who are interested in the subject, can identify the relevant venue, can identify how to edit the relevant venue, are aware that they *can* edit, can handle wikimarkup and can deal with the fact that a lot of editors see "wide-ranging discussions

Re: [Foundation-l] Adding a comment section under every Wikipedia article

on-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement: Maggie Dennis to continue with WMF

__ > Philippe Beaudette > Head of Reader Relations > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > > 415-839-6885, x 6643 > > phili...@wikimedia.org > _______ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/

Re: [Foundation-l] Vietnamese Wikipedia join protest SOPA and PIPA

_ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation __

[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool, version 5 - additional testing deployments

ion-D-12-28.png [4] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Article_feedback/Data_and_metrics -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - Friday 13th, 19:00 UTC, #wikimedia-office

r the feedback page and to provide feedback (hah) on it. Hope to see you all there :). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Fabrice Florin joins Wikimedia

rows, but a > lessening which can be mitigated to some degree. > > Bodnotbod > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] the limits for fundraising. Was Blnk tag jokes are now obsolete.

Check the IP history; Jan-Bart added them ;p On 4 January 2012 16:21, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Check the page history - I don't think those bits were added by the > foundation. > On Jan 4, 2012 3:26 PM, "WereSpielChequers" > wrote: > > > Re Tom's suggestion that we have an RFC on meta to discuss

Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors

One simple idea I had (personal capacity, etc etc) - we stick lots of banners at the top of the article saying "this has X problem! Be careful!". Would it be possible to have them appear differently to say, anonymous IPs, and display a more friendly message encouraging the users to register and dea

[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool Office Hours - 6 January, 19:00 UTC, #wikimedia-office

l be staying in the chan until 23:00 UTC to deal with any questions from latecomers, so pop in if you have any questions and a free moment. Thanks -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundati

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

in any of the testing or design, please feel free to email me. Other than that, merry Newtonmas to all of you. On 24 December 2011 18:20, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Oliver Keyes > wrote: > > The option to self-identify as an expert is more to try

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

, MZMcBride wrote: > Oliver Keyes wrote: > > To reply to Jussi; I think we're uniformly confused as to what you think > is > > the link between an encyclopedia written by experts, and an encyclopedia > > that asks average joes to provide comments on articles (other than t

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

I'm absolutely fine with that, sure. On 24 December 2011 12:02, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Oliver Keyes > wrote: > > Not...really. I'm not interested in getting more information on your > > opinion *on* the AFT - we've got

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

rote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Oliver Keyes > wrote: > > The article feedback tool has nothing to do with approving edits, though. > > Lets roll the conversation back; can you succinctly tell me how you > > perceive the Article Feedback Tool, or what you know a

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

ings which would explain why we're talking at cross-threads. On 24 December 2011 11:43, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Oliver Keyes > wrote: > > > > > > > To reply to Jussi; I think we're uniformly confused as to what you think &g

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

We'll hopefully have the chance (and time!) to experiment with some new positions, a couple of which were user-suggested. On 24 December 2011 11:38, David Gerard wrote: > On 24 December 2011 11:23, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > > So, to reply to Liam's point first - no, that'

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

s well as being > > > unclear. As such I don't think they are helping your argument, however > > > strong you might hold your opinions on the topic. > > > > I don't really get the "unclear" bit. > > It is extremely unclear to me what connection there is be

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

ia). >> >> Even if we are no longer using the data collected from the previous >> incarnation of the AFT (I've looked at a few articles I've written to >> see what the AFTers think of it, and it is a minor curiosity), the >> fact that it may be encour

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

ason for us to not jump the gun and switch it off prematurely. > > -- > Tom Morris > <http://tommorris.org/> > > _______ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

a from readers to know > whether it's working. Then iterate, improve, rollout to a slightly larger > set, repeat :-) > > However, I'd like to contest the two reasons you've given for not turning > off AFTv4 in the mean time. > > On 23/12/2011, at 3:49, Oliver Keyes wro

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

I'm not seeing the problem there, actually; the feedback page itself isn't up yet (again, just for testing) so editors aren't expected to do anything with the feedback. Am I missing something? On 22 December 2011 17:25, geni wrote: > On 22 December 2011 13:11, Oliver Keyes

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

rsion currently > running on the remaining 99.7% of en.wp, please? > > -Liam > > Peace, love & metadata > > On 23/12/2011, at 0:11, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > > That's correct, Tom. 0.3 percent of the English language Wikipedia is > being > > used as a

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

ember 2011 13:11, Oliver Keyes wrote: > That's correct, Tom. 0.3 percent of the English language Wikipedia is > being used as a testbed for the *rest* of the English-language Wikipedia; > a tertiary testbed, since we've already run things through on both > prototype and labs

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

7;s not > suddenly going to turn up on projects other than enwiki without a lot > more discussion and consultation. > > But then I've just been watching the process quietly from the > sidelines: I may have got this all wrong. > > -- > Tom Morris > <http://tommorr

[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

around 0.3 percent of enwiki's content. This is just to test whether or not it's beneficial, and we don't plan on keeping every single form in place :). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___

[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - Today, #wikimedia-office, 19:00 UTC

probably a good one to come to :). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] "Terms of use" : Anglo-saxon copyright law and Anglo-saxon lawyers : a disgrace for Continental Europeans

I really hope 4.0 brings clarity, and also that WMF > will go > > forward from an unported licence to a fully internationalized TOS > > implementation, the sooner the better. > > > > > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] "Terms of use" : Anglo-saxon copyright law and Anglo-saxon lawyers : a disgrace for Continental Europeans

are > Commonwealth countries. In the rest of the world, moral rights are > either non-existent, or not waivable. Is there any Commonwealth caselaw > on what types of attribution are acceptable for satisfying moral rights? > > Ryan Kaldari > > _______

Re: [Foundation-l] [Internal-l] Regarding Berkman/Sciences Po study

Speaking off the record and in my personal capacity - fuckin' A. Thank you for being the one sane voice :p On Sunday, 11 December 2011, Renata St wrote: >> >> The problem is that the research committee made only a token effort >> at finding or following relevant onwiki policy or consensus , nor d

[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 15 minutes

Hey guys; the AFT office hours session will be starting at 11:00 (or whenever Geoff finishes) :). Hope to see you all there! -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC

> where a jury had to select good photos out of 16 submitted. > On Nov 29, 2011 8:51 PM, "Oliver Keyes" wrote: > > > It'd be good! I'm not sure what the usefulness would be, though. So, the > > two aims behind the AFT: > > > > > > - To

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC

lly nice, as well the intention behind it! for pictures, or > commons in general, a rating model like the one already implements would be > more appropriate, what you think? > On Nov 29, 2011 8:20 PM, "Oliver Keyes" wrote: > > > Well, if you've seen AFT5 (you may n

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC

ll? > On Nov 29, 2011 6:17 PM, "Oliver Keyes" wrote: > > > Hey guys! > > > > Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 > December, > > at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with > > prototypes

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC

Indeed; an hour beforehand :). We'll be jumping in right as he ends. On 29 November 2011 17:23, Theo10011 wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Oliver Keyes > wrote: > > > Hey guys! > > > > Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2

[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC

all melty). -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Error message

John Vandenberg > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Fou

[Foundation-l] Office Hours - 18 November, 22:00 UTC

imeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=3&min=00&sec=0&day=19&month=11&year=2011) on Saturday will see an office hours session on the AFT aimed at you folk ;). It'll just be me, I'm afraid, but if you want to engage on the AFT, have any suggestions, or just want

[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 19:00 UTC, Thursday 10 November

riday evening UTC. Hope to see you lot soon! -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Message to Fae

> Philippe Beaudette > Head of Reader Relations > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > > 415-839-6885, x 6643 > > phili...@wikimedia.org > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubs

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours

4:59 PST, sorry. It's been a very, very long day. On 2 November 2011 18:45, Oliver Keyes wrote: > So, to correct then - 23:59 UTC, which is 23:59 GMT and 4:59 UTC :P. > > > On 2 November 2011 14:31, Oliver Keyes wrote: > >> Duly noted ;p. >> >> >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours

So, to correct then - 23:59 UTC, which is 23:59 GMT and 4:59 UTC :P. On 2 November 2011 14:31, Oliver Keyes wrote: > Duly noted ;p. > > > On 2 November 2011 04:34, Theo10011 wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Oliver Keyes >> wrote: >> >> >

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours

Duly noted ;p. On 2 November 2011 04:34, Theo10011 wrote: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Oliver Keyes > wrote: > > > Hey guys > > > > Brandon, Howie, Fabrice and I will be holding a second Office Hours > session > > on the new Article Feedback Tool on

[Foundation-l] Office Hours

normal time periods, to attend. I hope to see you all there :). Thanks -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment

he changes myself, lets do thaWAUGH, WHAT IN CTHULU'S NAME DOES ALL THIS TEXT MEAN" On 31 October 2011 12:39, David Gerard wrote: > On 31 October 2011 12:30, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > > Not sure about that specific change, but one illustration might be the > > Article Fee

Re: [Foundation-l] Ideas for newbie recruitment

Not sure about that specific change, but one illustration might be the Article Feedback Tool, which contains a "you know you can edit, right?" thing. Off the top of my head I think 17.4 percent of the 30-40,000 people who use it per day attempt to edit as a result of that inducement. Admittedly onl

Re: [Foundation-l] the choice of what is going to be developed is very much a management issue;

I'm not saying that they would *ignore* readers, just that consistently taking outside parties into account is something every group finds difficult. I can see the community noting, in such discussions, that readers have a stake. I can even see them taking this stake into account when making decisi

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

As for empowering users and letting them play a role - speaking professionally now, that's exactly what tech is trying to do. I should know, they've hired me on a short-term basis to help out :P. If you want to get involved, my inbox is always open. Drop me an email and I'll send you links to what

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

Speaking personally, the tech department develops features that benefit the community. The difference is that they, quite rightly, see the "community" as consisting of both readers and editors. They are developing editor-specific new features, such as the Zoom interface for Special:NewPages, as I e

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

I was saying that the WL layout > posting on talkpages ;p. On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Theo10011 wrote: > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Oliver Keyes >wrote: > > > You seem to be missing my point - that the WL tool serves an ulterior > > function of allowing use

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

it's important, even without WL's core purpose, that the tool remain available to new editors. On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Fae wrote: > On 30 October 2011 08:06, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > Surely making it only available to those users who understand markup > > complet

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

Not my call, but I'd totally support that. On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:35 AM, geni wrote: > On 30 October 2011 08:06, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > Surely making it only available to those users who understand markup > > completely undermines one of the great unintended conseq

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

Surely making it only available to those users who understand markup completely undermines one of the great unintended consequences - that it's really useful for posting talkpage messages? New users can use those templates in a *perfectly* meaningful way - as a way of communicating instead of relyi

[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours

e. Is that something that interests anyone? Meanwhile, the plans for the new AFT version can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AFT5 - if you have any opinions, just drop a note on the talkpage. All comments and perspectives are welcome :). Thanks Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Pr

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours on the article feedback tool

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:33:30 +0100, WereSpielChequers > wrote: > > > > > Can we make sure that any new generation Article Feedback tool is > properly > > tested, and that testing includes: > > > >1. Implementing it on a random grou

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours on the article feedback tool

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Risker wrote: > On 26 October 2011 06:04, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > > Hey guys > > > > So, on Thursday we're going to be holding an Office Hours session on IRC > > .The session will be held in > > #wikimedia-office at

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours on the article feedback tool

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > > > I personally can not attend but I guess there are many users interested in > the topic, and some brief update on a dedicated Meta page (or even > publication of the IRC log) would be much appreciated. > > Cheers > Yaroslav > > S

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours on the article feedback tool

it so much" O. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:09 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 26 October 2011 11:04, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > > So, on Thursday we're going to be holding an Office Hours session on IRC > to > > discuss the Article Feedback Tool and what we're p

[Foundation-l] Office Hours on the article feedback tool

e. The session will be held in #wikimedia-office at 19:00 GMT/UTC, and I hope to see a lot of you there :). Thanks Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals with content issues.

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 22:30:38 -0600, James Heilman wrote: > > A Committee to Deal with Content Issues > >. > For instance, would such committee (if ever created) tell Arabic Wikipedia > what > has to be written in the article Al-Quds/J

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals with content issues.

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote > > > Let's linky here, Oliver: > -- > ~Keegan > > My bad. Anyway, to quote "The role of the Mediation Committee is explicitly to try to resolve disputes, especially those *involving content*" (i

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals with content issues.

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:30 AM, James Heilman wrote: > A Committee to Deal with Content Issues > > Wikipedia does not seem to have any formal arbitration committee that deals > with content. > The Mediation Committee? ___ foundation-l mailing list found

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Volunteers: Wikimedia Research Committee

So your peer reviewed experience iiis. the co-authoring of a single paper published in a supplement? Less than say, a particularly good management undergrad. Forgive me; a director of marketing at that level does exactly how much direct marketing? On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Gregory Kohs wrot

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Internal-l] Pre-Strategy Finalization Goals Survey (Community)

Well, that would unfortunately mean involving Australians and Americans in the wiki. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me :P On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:47 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 6 August 2010 20:14, Sue Gardner wrote: > > > I sent this to an internal Wikimedia mailing list earlier today to

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

OMG I MET ROBERT I LUV HIM SO is disruptive. "Does anyone know where he was educated? It isn't listed" is potentially helpful. And so on. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Oliver Keyes wrote: > > Agreed. A good example; on the English Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] FBI Seal and Wikimedia

Another cease-and-desist, perchance? Hopefully the Streisand Effect will take hold and every news organisation reporting this will reproduce the seal in loving, high-definition detail. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Incidentally, britannica.com removed the seal today fro

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

Agreed. A good example; on the English Wikipedia, I'm a massive law nerd with 40-something legal GAs and FAs to my name. I'd never even have studied the subject if it wasn't for a group of Wikipedians, some of whom have later helped me with or collaborated on articles. The importance of social inte

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

for what it's worth, I think it's a smart shift. > > Brandon Harris wrote: > > It is possible for long-term or power-users of Wikimedia software to > > change the skin they use if they find serious fault with Vector. > > Oliver Keyes wrote: > > Impose? You k

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

" in an attempt to impose purely aesthetic choices on the broader community." Impose? You know it can be turned off, right? On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Brandon Harris wrote: > > > On 8/2/2010 6:12 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > > A lot of the complaints I heard regarding the Vector rollout were based

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

"The idea is that most of en.wp's articles are well-enough written, and written in accord with NPOV to a sufficient degree to overcome any such criticism of 'imperial encyclopedism.' - really? It's a) not particularly well-written, mostly and b) referenced overwhelmingly to English-language sources

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion Questions for Potentially-Objectionable Content

Wikipedia images and pages normally have descriptive titles. If you want to prevent children seeing bad stuff on the internet, set up a web blocker. Mind you, if you want to prevent children seeing bad stuff on the internet, best to raise them in an Amish village. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:05 PM,

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

Agreed. There's one wiki which artificially inflated the number of articles it had via a bot (I forget the specific language). That's not a way to increase the wiki's strength. There's an old phrase used on en-wiki; "africa is not a redlink". It means that because we have articles on a lot of commo

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

"If there are issues, they can be overcome. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of articles in English can be "pushed" over to other languages, and fill a need for those topics in those languages." - if there are vast swathes in other languages that aren't filled, it's normally indica

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapter wikimania scholarships Was: Money, politics and corruption

ice. Most conference scheduling is a 12~14 month window. Paperwork at > its best. But, really, good for Hungary to provide the grant even if it's > too little/too late. > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Oliver Keyes >wrote: > > > Yeah, I see your point - it's

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