Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread Mike Christie
You're right, the topic is done. Filing it under WP:SILLY would be the icing on the cake. On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Michael Peel wrote: > Best all around to simply destroy the evidence (by eating it?). > > ... can this topic end now? Or be moved on-wiki so that it can be filed > under WP:SI

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread Michael Peel
Best all around to simply destroy the evidence (by eating it?). ... can this topic end now? Or be moved on-wiki so that it can be filed under WP:SILLY? Thanks, Mike On 5 Mar 2012, at 23:23, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 5 March 2012 23:14, Lodewijk wrote: >> eating the cake would damage the moral

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 5 March 2012 23:14, Lodewijk wrote: > eating the cake would damage the moral rights of the logo author. Since he > cannot give general permission to violate moral rights, eating the cake > would be illegal. If you take a slice out of the cake, that could be an issue since you have created a ne

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread Lodewijk
eating the cake would damage the moral rights of the logo author. Since he cannot give general permission to violate moral rights, eating the cake would be illegal. No dia 5 de Março de 2012 23:08, David Gerard escreveu: > On 5 March 2012 22:07, geni wrote: > > On 5 March 2012 20:40, Chris Keat

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 March 2012 22:07, geni wrote: > On 5 March 2012 20:40, Chris Keating wrote: >> I suspect a court would hold that the set of "cakes" is disjoint from the >> set of "objects on permanent display", and thus that a photograph of cake >> can never benefit from freedom of panorama. > Well you sa

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread geni
On 5 March 2012 20:40, Chris Keating wrote: > I suspect a court would hold that the set of "cakes" is disjoint from the > set of "objects on permanent display", and thus that a photograph of cake > can never benefit from freedom of panorama. Well you say that but slices of Charles and Diana's wed

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread Chris Keating
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Mike Christie wrote: > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Chris Keating >wrote: > > > I suspect a court would hold that the set of "cakes" is disjoint from the > > set of "objects on permanent display", and thus that a photograph of cake > > can never benefit from fr

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread Mike Christie
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Chris Keating wrote: > I suspect a court would hold that the set of "cakes" is disjoint from the > set of "objects on permanent display", and thus that a photograph of cake > can never benefit from freedom of panorama. > You mean we can't have the cake and eat it t

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 5 March 2012 20:22, geni wrote: > On 5 March 2012 14:54, Richard Symonds > wrote: >> Silly question for you all: >> >> Is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_cake.jpg actually >> copyrighted to the WMF as a WMF logo? The cake was made for Wikimedia UK, so >> it's technically a de

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread Chris Keating
> > > > > Does the author > > (Jezhotwells) have the ability to release it under a free licence, if > s/he > > wishes? > > No but if they put it on permanent display in a public place the photo > would probably be totally fine under UK freedom of panorama law. I suspect a court would hold that th

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread geni
On 5 March 2012 14:54, Richard Symonds wrote: > Silly question for you all: > > Is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_cake.jpg actually > copyrighted to the WMF as a WMF logo? The cake was made for Wikimedia UK, so > it's technically a derivative work, perhaps... Its a derivative wo

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread Lodewijk
The cake designer can only release his/her part of the creative process under a free license (baking the cake/making the photo). I would suggest to just specifiy that the logo-part is copyright WMF, the photographic and cake-baking component to be released under CC-BY (not -SA to avoid the SA claus

[Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread Richard Symonds
Silly question for you all: Is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_cake.jpg actually copyrighted to the WMF as a WMF logo? The cake was made for Wikimedia UK, so it's technically a derivative work, perhaps... Any ideas what the copyright status of this should be? Does the author