Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:01 AM, Tom Evans wrote: > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > wrote: > > Dear All , > > > > Previously , in the following message , I have mentioned effect of memory > > chip placement on execution speed : > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermai

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Evans
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > Dear All , > > Previously , in the following message , I have mentioned effect of memory > chip placement on execution speed : > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2012-February/031836.html > Effect of Processor and

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Evans
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:01 AM, Tom Evans wrote: >> >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk >> wrote: >> > Dear All , >> > >> > Previously , in the following message , I have mentioned effect of >> > memory >

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Tom Evans writes: >You say this, have you actually measured/checked. sysutils/dmidecode >will interrogate your BIOS and tell us what it thinks is installed in >each RAM socket. It is not uncommon for RAM to say one thing on the >outside, and report something completely different to

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message djjmoe5t...@mail.gmail.com>, Tom Evans writes: > > >You say this, have you actually measured/checked. sysutils/dmidecode > >will interrogate your BIOS and tell us what it thinks is installed in > >each RAM socket. It is not un

Re: NewNFS vs. oldNFS for 10.0?

2013-03-18 Thread Andre Oppermann
On 16.03.2013 01:44, Peter Wemm wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:03 PM, John Baldwin wrote: On Friday, March 15, 2013 11:24:32 am Andre Oppermann wrote: On 15.03.2013 14:46, John Baldwin wrote: On Friday, March 15, 2013 9:40:56 am Andre Oppermann wrote: Hi Rick, all, is there a plan to deci

Re: NewNFS vs. oldNFS for 10.0?

2013-03-18 Thread Andre Oppermann
On 15.03.2013 15:08, Rick Macklem wrote: Lars Eggert wrote: Hi, this reminds me that I ran into an issue lately with the new NFS and locking for NFSv3 mounts on a client that ran -CURRENT and a server that ran -STABLE. When I ran "portmaster -a" on the client, which mounted /usr/ports and /usr

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 03/18/13 07:18, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> In message > djjmoe5t...@mail.gmail.com>, Tom Evans writes: >> >>> You say this, have you actually measured/checked. sysutils/dmidecode >>> will interrogate your BIOS and tell us what i

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 03/18/13 07:18, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp >wrote: > > > >> In message >> djjmoe5t...@mail.gmail.com>, Tom Evans writes: > >> > >>> You say this, have you actually measured/chec

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 03/18/13 07:18, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp >wrote: > > > >> In message >> djjmoe5t...@mail.gmail.com>, Tom Evans writes: > >> > >>> You say this, have you actually measured/chec

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "Nathan Whitehorn" To: Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:26 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots On 03/18/13 07:18, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In me

[head tinderbox] failure on arm/arm

2013-03-18 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2013-03-18 13:20:17 - tinderbox 2.10 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2013-03-18 13:20:17 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2013

[head tinderbox] failure on armv6/arm

2013-03-18 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2013-03-18 13:20:17 - tinderbox 2.10 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2013-03-18 13:20:17 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2013

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Steven Hartland wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Nathan Whitehorn" < > nwhiteh...@freebsd.org> > To: > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:26 PM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in > slots > > > On 03/18/13 07:18,

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Surely you can eliminate all of those and confirm / deny the original diagnosis by simply installing balanced memory in the machine and checking to see if the problem goes away? Please see links in my previous mails . All of these are

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Steven Hartland wrote: > > - Original Message - From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > >> Surely you can eliminate all of those and confirm / deny the original >>> diagnosis by simply installing balanced memory in the machine and >>> checking >>> to see if the probl

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Steven Hartland
>> - Original Message - From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk >>> >>> Surely you can eliminate all of those and confirm / deny the original diagnosis by simply installing balanced memory in the machine and checking to see if the problem goes away? >>> >>> Please see links in my pr

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , "Steven Hartland" writes: >You state there that "The main boards are the same" which indicates to me >the machines aren't the same machine which could result in some other subtle >difference causing the problem. > >To confirm you'll need to use the "exact same machine" for tests with

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message , "Steven > Hartland" writes: > > >You state there that "The main boards are the same" which indicates to me > >the machines aren't the same machine which could result in some other > subtle > >difference causing the problem. >

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Steven Hartland wrote: > ** > >> - Original Message - From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > >>> > >>> Surely you can eliminate all of those and confirm / deny the original > diagnosis by simply installing balanced memory in the machine and > checking > >>

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "Mehmet Erol Sanliturk" You state there that "The main boards are the same" which indicates to me the machines aren't the same machine which could result in some other subtle difference causing the problem. To confirm you'll need to use the "exact same mac

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Steven Hartland wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Mehmet Erol Sanliturk" < > m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com> > > You state there that "The main boards are the same" which indicates to me >>> the machines aren't the same machine which could result in some oth

Re: troubles with buildworld/sendmail/sasl/clang

2013-03-18 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Beat Siegenthaler wrote: > Hi all, > > since some days i try to "make buildworld", but have some errors in > sendmail. > The make conf is not changed since years (in this case) . Adding > NO_WERROR= in src.conf helps, but i think it is not the optimal solution? > >

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Scot Hetzel
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > Computer A : Memory Chip Sizes : ( 2 GB , 1 GB , 2 GB , 1 GB ) : Working > SLOW . FreeBSD A > Computer B : Memory Chip Sizes : ( 2 GB , 2 GB , 2 GB , 2 GB ) : Working > FAST . FreeBSD B > > Interchange memory chips : > > Computer A

Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique

2013-03-18 Thread Fbsd8
To all interested parties; I have completed the final draft of the total rewrite of FreeBSD's handbook Chapter 16 on Jails. Before submitting my work for submission to the documentation group for insertion in the handbook I am looking for critique of the work to find errors in concept, wrong

Re: Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique

2013-03-18 Thread Isaac (.ike) Levy
Pretty heavy cross-posting here, could you perhaps reign this in to the freebsd-jail@ list, where it can be discussed in-context? This will help keep the noise down. On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > To all interested parties; > > I have completed the final draft of the total rewri

Re: Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique

2013-03-18 Thread Robert Huff
Isaac (.ike) Levy writes: > Pretty heavy cross-posting here, could you perhaps reign this in > to the freebsd-jail@ list, where it can be discussed in-context? > This will help keep the noise down. It will also keep down the signal from people who use or are interested in jails, but d

Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique

2013-03-18 Thread Fbsd8
To all interested parties; I have completed the final draft of the total rewrite of FreeBSD's handbook Chapter 16 on Jails. Before submitting my work for submission to the documentation group for insertion in the handbook I am looking for critique of the work to find errors in concept, wrong use

Re: NewNFS vs. oldNFS for 10.0?

2013-03-18 Thread Peter Holm
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 01:43:24PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: > On 15.03.2013 15:08, Rick Macklem wrote: > > Lars Eggert wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> this reminds me that I ran into an issue lately with the new NFS and > >> locking for NFSv3 mounts on a client that ran -CURRENT and a server > >> th

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Scot Hetzel wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > wrote: > > Computer A : Memory Chip Sizes : ( 2 GB , 1 GB , 2 GB , 1 GB ) : Working > > SLOW . FreeBSD A > > Computer B : Memory Chip Sizes : ( 2 GB , 2 GB , 2 GB , 2 GB ) : Working >

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
Dear All , I tried the following on Nathan Whitehorn's suggestions : I have disabled ~/.xinitrc , leaving X with its default window manager . I have started Firefox . The same slow behavior ! The problem starts after STARTING X . The rest ( FluxBox , KDE , Gnome ) seems to be innocent . If

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread olli hauer
On 2013-03-18 21:43, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Scot Hetzel wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk >> wrote: >>> Computer A : Memory Chip Sizes : ( 2 GB , 1 GB , 2 GB , 1 GB ) : Working >>> SLOW . FreeBSD A >>> Computer B : Memor

Re: Handbook Jail Chapter rewrite available for critique

2013-03-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > Isaac (.ike) Levy writes: > > > Pretty heavy cross-posting here, could you perhaps reign this in > > to the freebsd-jail@ list, where it can be discussed in-context? > > This will help keep the noise down. > > It will also keep do

Re: FreeBSD is very slow when Memory chip sizes are imbalanced in slots

2013-03-18 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:28 PM, olli hauer wrote: > On 2013-03-18 21:43, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Scot Hetzel wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > >> wrote: > >>> Computer A : Memory Chip Sizes : ( 2 GB , 1 GB , 2 GB

[head tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

2013-03-18 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2013-03-18 19:54:43 - tinderbox 2.10 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2013-03-18 19:54:43 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2013

Re: gptzfsboot problem on HP P410i Smart Array

2013-03-18 Thread Sergey Dyatko
2012/8/20 Bjorn Larsson > Hi Andrey, > > We are installing freeBSD using ZFS as root filesystem using the GPT > method as described on the freeBSD ZFS wiki. We are creating a GPT > boot partition with the gptzfsboot program embedded and then a zroot > partition with the freeBSD binaries. This wor