Re: new kernel build, bad MSF image

1999-09-06 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Ben Williams: > wd0s1a") and it immediately complains about "panic: MFS image is > invalid!!" and forces me to reboot. This happens if I use kernel, Don't use the option MFS_ROOT_SIZE... -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD kel

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Nick Hibma wrote: > Anyway, as soon as you can physically access the PC, youD loose anyway, > independent of whether you can go into DDB to do things. You can reboot, > boot a floppy. Yes you can do something about those things, but only to > a limited extent. Not without some

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Nick Hibma
>I disagree quite strongly. DDB provides a mechanism to allow a >sysadmin to obtain a greater amount of information from a panic >situation then he could get otherwise. Being able to obtain this >information does not run counter to running with a raised securelevel. > >

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-06 Thread Bill Paul
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Jason Thorpe had to walk into mine and say: > On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:23:00 -0600 > Wes Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > See, for instance, the al, ax, mx, pn, vr, and wb drivers. ;^) > > >

Re: new kernel build, bad MSF image

1999-09-06 Thread Mike Smith
>I have only recently begun to use FreeBSD but I consider myself > competent with Linux and I have had FreeBSD installed on my PC for > over a week now and I decided to build a kernel for my machine and get > rid of all the unnecessary drivers and whatnot (like everything SCSI, > the Q

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Mike Smith
> On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 07:15:00PM -0400, Ugen Antsilevitch wrote: > > Supporting winmodems > > btw would be nice, although i doubt manufacturers will give us their code. > > That might not be necessary, eventually. I've heard, obliquely, > of a project to develop "open source" modem (data pump

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-06 Thread Wes Peters
pe...@taronga.com wrote: > > > It is. Without it, soffice keeps bringing up setup over and over instead > > of just starting the damn office. > > Well, my copy calls this file libosl517li.so, and doing this "sed" trick on > it just makes it exit without doing anything. Not doing it gives me the >

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, KATO Takenori wrote: > DDB does not provide enough security. Though securelevel cannot be > changed, > > (1) Turn off power. > (2) Boot as single-user mode. Setting the console as insecure should protect against this. > or > > (1) Turn off power. >

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Nick Hibma wrote: > Anyway, as soon as you can physically access the PC, youD loose anyway, > independent of whether you can go into DDB to do things. You can reboot, > boot a floppy. Yes you can do something about those things, but only to > a limited extent. Not without som

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Nick Hibma
>I disagree quite strongly. DDB provides a mechanism to allow a >sysadmin to obtain a greater amount of information from a panic >situation then he could get otherwise. Being able to obtain this >information does not run counter to running with a raised securelevel. > >

Re: new kernel build, bad MSF image

1999-09-06 Thread Mike Smith
>I have only recently begun to use FreeBSD but I consider myself > competent with Linux and I have had FreeBSD installed on my PC for > over a week now and I decided to build a kernel for my machine and get > rid of all the unnecessary drivers and whatnot (like everything SCSI, > the

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Peter Jeremy
Matthew Dillon wrote: > If the system winds up in a state where a kernel core cannot be > generated, DDB is the only way to figure out what is going on. > securelevel is a mechanism which attempts to guarentee data security, > at least to a degree. The problem is that DDB currently allo

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread KATO Takenori
Matthew Dillon wrote: >I disagree quite strongly. DDB provides a mechanism to allow a >sysadmin to obtain a greater amount of information from a panic >situation then he could get otherwise. Being able to obtain this >information does not run counter to running with a raised sec

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Mike Smith
> On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 07:15:00PM -0400, Ugen Antsilevitch wrote: > > Supporting winmodems > > btw would be nice, although i doubt manufacturers will give us their code. > > That might not be necessary, eventually. I've heard, obliquely, > of a project to develop "open source" modem (data pum

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-06 Thread Wes Peters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > It is. Without it, soffice keeps bringing up setup over and over instead > > of just starting the damn office. > > Well, my copy calls this file libosl517li.so, and doing this "sed" trick on > it just makes it exit without doing anything. Not doing it gives me the

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, KATO Takenori wrote: > DDB does not provide enough security. Though securelevel cannot be > changed, > > (1) Turn off power. > (2) Boot as single-user mode. Setting the console as insecure should protect against this. > or > > (1) Turn off power. >

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> Though, as a side note, it should be noted that if you have DDB :> enabled then lowering the secure level is pretty easy to do. If you :> have access to the console, of course. : :It should also be noted that it makes no sense to enable DDB on :systems that need to use elevated sec

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Peter Jeremy
Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the system winds up in a state where a kernel core cannot be > generated, DDB is the only way to figure out what is going on. > securelevel is a mechanism which attempts to guarentee data security, > at least to a degree. The problem is tha

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread KATO Takenori
Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I disagree quite strongly. DDB provides a mechanism to allow a >sysadmin to obtain a greater amount of information from a panic >situation then he could get otherwise. Being able to obtain this >information does not run counter to runni

Re: placement of vi in the filesystem

1999-09-06 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Adrian Filipi-Martin wrote: > On the other hand I built a static nvi and put it in /tmp with a > copy of termcap and set the TERMCAP variable. With only / mounted, nvi did > just fine, and it only took 460592 and 188100 bytes for the static nvi and > termcap respectivly.

Re: src/etc/rc.sysctl installation

1999-09-06 Thread Warner Losh
In message <199909070023.baa29...@keep.lan.awfulhak.org> Brian Somers writes: : Is it time to install src/etc/rc.sysctl now ? I certainly think it's : a good idea :-] No. I don't think we want to install rc.sysctl for an installworld. It would spam changes that others make to them. Warner To

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> Though, as a side note, it should be noted that if you have DDB :> enabled then lowering the secure level is pretty easy to do. If you :> have access to the console, of course. : :It should also be noted that it makes no sense to enable DDB on :systems that need to use elevated se

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Chuck Robey
On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Andrew Reilly wrote: > On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 07:15:00PM -0400, Ugen Antsilevitch wrote: > > Supporting winmodems > > btw would be nice, although i doubt manufacturers will give us their code. > > That might not be necessary, eventually. I've heard, obliquely, > of a project

Re: placement of vi in the filesystem

1999-09-06 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Adrian Filipi-Martin wrote: > On the other hand I built a static nvi and put it in /tmp with a > copy of termcap and set the TERMCAP variable. With only / mounted, nvi did > just fine, and it only took 460592 and 188100 bytes for the static nvi and > termcap respectivly

Re: src/etc/rc.sysctl installation

1999-09-06 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian Somers writes: : Is it time to install src/etc/rc.sysctl now ? I certainly think it's : a good idea :-] No. I don't think we want to install rc.sysctl for an installworld. It would spam changes that others make to them. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail t

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread tbuswell
Andrew Reilly writes: > Does anyone know whether there's more to a "WinModem" than a > line hybrid, a codec and a PCI interface? "It Depends". For many of them, yes, that's pretty much all there is. However Motorola (at least) has a reference design for a "WinModem" that uses their DSP56303 o

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Chuck Robey
On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Andrew Reilly wrote: > On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 07:15:00PM -0400, Ugen Antsilevitch wrote: > > Supporting winmodems > > btw would be nice, although i doubt manufacturers will give us their code. > > That might not be necessary, eventually. I've heard, obliquely, > of a projec

Re: Limit of bus hierarchies (was Re: PCI modems do not work???)

1999-09-06 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Warner Losh scribbled this message on Sep 5: > In message <9909061532290g.69...@gurney.reilly.home> Andrew Reilly writes: > : So there's going to be manufacturer-specific terminal/serial port drivers > : to talk to the serial ports on USB-attached laptop docking stations, like > : the Annex etherne

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > Might be a good time have a sys/dev/sio and have pccard, cardbus, pci > and isa attachments there. Yes, I did say cardbus, since I have seen > cardbus PCI modems that are NOT winmodems. And MCA and EISA attachments. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Doug Rabson scribbled this message on Sep 6: > > SIO doesn't support anything but isa attachments right now. Its probe > > and attach routines need to be corrected to not be ISA specific. > > I think I will tackle that soon. if you don't get to it soon, I may take a look at it... I have a bunch

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 07:15:00PM -0400, Ugen Antsilevitch wrote: > Supporting winmodems > btw would be nice, although i doubt manufacturers will give us their code. That might not be necessary, eventually. I've heard, obliquely, of a project to develop "open source" modem (data pump) software t

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread tbuswell
Andrew Reilly writes: > Does anyone know whether there's more to a "WinModem" than a > line hybrid, a codec and a PCI interface? "It Depends". For many of them, yes, that's pretty much all there is. However Motorola (at least) has a reference design for a "WinModem" that uses their DSP56303

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread KATO Takenori
Matthew Dillon wrote: > Though, as a side note, it should be noted that if you have DDB > enabled then lowering the secure level is pretty easy to do. If you > have access to the console, of course. We used this trick at BEST > a couple of times. Still, I think this might quali

Re: Limit of bus hierarchies (was Re: PCI modems do not work???)

1999-09-06 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Warner Losh scribbled this message on Sep 5: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andrew Reilly writes: > : So there's going to be manufacturer-specific terminal/serial port drivers > : to talk to the serial ports on USB-attached laptop docking stations, like > : the Annex ethernet terminal server thi

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > Might be a good time have a sys/dev/sio and have pccard, cardbus, pci > and isa attachments there. Yes, I did say cardbus, since I have seen > cardbus PCI modems that are NOT winmodems. And MCA and EISA attachments. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 28

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Doug Rabson scribbled this message on Sep 6: > > SIO doesn't support anything but isa attachments right now. Its probe > > and attach routines need to be corrected to not be ISA specific. > > I think I will tackle that soon. if you don't get to it soon, I may take a look at it... I have a bunch

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 07:15:00PM -0400, Ugen Antsilevitch wrote: > Supporting winmodems > btw would be nice, although i doubt manufacturers will give us their code. That might not be necessary, eventually. I've heard, obliquely, of a project to develop "open source" modem (data pump) software

new kernel build, bad MSF image

1999-09-06 Thread Ben Williams
I have only recently begun to use FreeBSD but I consider myself competent with Linux and I have had FreeBSD installed on my PC for over a week now and I decided to build a kernel for my machine and get rid of all the unnecessary drivers and whatnot (like everything SCSI, the Qcam stuff,

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread KATO Takenori
Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Though, as a side note, it should be noted that if you have DDB > enabled then lowering the secure level is pretty easy to do. If you > have access to the console, of course. We used this trick at BEST > a couple of times. Still, I th

src/etc/rc.sysctl installation

1999-09-06 Thread Brian Somers
Is it time to install src/etc/rc.sysctl now ? I certainly think it's a good idea :-] -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe fr

new kernel build, bad MSF image

1999-09-06 Thread Ben Williams
I have only recently begun to use FreeBSD but I consider myself competent with Linux and I have had FreeBSD installed on my PC for over a week now and I decided to build a kernel for my machine and get rid of all the unnecessary drivers and whatnot (like everything SCSI, the Qcam stuff

src/etc/rc.sysctl installation

1999-09-06 Thread Brian Somers
Is it time to install src/etc/rc.sysctl now ? I certainly think it's a good idea :-] -- Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 2.2.8 - can't mount root

1999-09-06 Thread Darren Reed
In some mail from Doug, sie said: > > Darren Reed wrote: > > > > Is there a way to get FreeBSD 2.2.8 to ask you for the root device > > rather than have it attempt to mount and fail ? > > The 3.x branch is a lot smarter about this, but I agree that it would be > nice in those situations wh

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Ugen Antsilevitch
> > > I volonteer to be your first alpha-tester. I have this modem > > > blaster thing. It is PCI and it has a UART. I was going to sell it > > > and shell out lots of money for USRobotics 56K ISA real modem. BTW > > > they call it "legacy" modem - i think the general direction is such > > > that

Re: 2.2.8 - can't mount root

1999-09-06 Thread Darren Reed
In some mail from Doug, sie said: > > Darren Reed wrote: > > > > Is there a way to get FreeBSD 2.2.8 to ask you for the root device > > rather than have it attempt to mount and fail ? > > The 3.x branch is a lot smarter about this, but I agree that it would be > nice in those situations w

Re: K6 Write Combining & FreeBSD

1999-09-06 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Brian F. Feldman wrote ... > On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > > > Mike Smith: > > |> Also, I wonder if you've seen/heard of an MTRR patch for 3.2-RELEASE > > | > > |You could try to backport the two sets of commits I just made to the > > |-stable branch, but you might be better

Re: /etc sh script cleanup ready for testing

1999-09-06 Thread Doug
Michael Reifenberger wrote: > > Hi, > On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Doug wrote: > ... > > can find the files at http://gorean.org/rcfiles/ > looks good so far. > I'm missing rc.serial in rcfiles. Thanks for the reminder. I didn't make any changes to that file because there weren't any [/test lines

Re: K6 Write Combining & FreeBSD

1999-09-06 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Brian F. Feldman wrote ... > On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > > > Mike Smith: > > |> Also, I wonder if you've seen/heard of an MTRR patch for 3.2-RELEASE > > | > > |You could try to backport the two sets of commits I just made to the > > |-stable branch, but you might be better

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread David Scheidt
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > > This is pretty much untrue, because not all applications (industrial > > applications) for modems have a PC to talk to, so it's totally > > impossible for conventional modems to go away. I used to make my living > > tending large banks of modems, and not al

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Ugen Antsilevitch
> > > I volonteer to be your first alpha-tester. I have this modem > > > blaster thing. It is PCI and it has a UART. I was going to sell it > > > and shell out lots of money for USRobotics 56K ISA real modem. BTW > > > they call it "legacy" modem - i think the general direction is such > > > that

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Kevin Day
> > Well, he's partially true. > > > > We're looking at mass buying several thousand PCI modems. The cost for a > > non-winmodem model is about 3x the Winmodem style. (You can buy winmodems > > very cheap, since everyone is making them now. You can't buy non-winmodem's > > cheap because only a few

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Chuck Robey
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > > I think you're panicking prematurely, Ugen. You're also checking the > > very bottom of the market, and you're exaggerating (in your comment > > about shelling out lot's of cash for a conventional modem) the cost of > > a regular modem. Things just aren't

Re: /etc sh script cleanup ready for testing

1999-09-06 Thread Doug
Michael Reifenberger wrote: > > Hi, > On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Doug wrote: > ... > > can find the files at http://gorean.org/rcfiles/ > looks good so far. > I'm missing rc.serial in rcfiles. Thanks for the reminder. I didn't make any changes to that file because there weren't any [/test lines

Re: FBSD3.3RC + UMAX astra 1220S + NCR810 => panic

1999-09-06 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Kenneth D. Merry wrote ... > Wilko Bulte wrote... > > As Kenneth D. Merry wrote ... ... > > Even if we assume the scanner yelled for attention and/or the ncr > > driver is at fault I don't really understand why the cam layer > > decides to panic the machine. Wouldn't it be sufficient to return

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread David Scheidt
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > > This is pretty much untrue, because not all applications (industrial > > applications) for modems have a PC to talk to, so it's totally > > impossible for conventional modems to go away. I used to make my living > > tending large banks of modems, and not a

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Kevin Day
> > Hey! > > > > Thanx a lot first of all! > > > > Anytime i CAN write something myself - i do. I can go as low as networking > > code > > or pseudodevice driver. But i am at loss when it comes to hardware (and > > within > > my scope of work etc. i doubt i will ever learn this stuff). Thats

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Kevin Day
> > Well, he's partially true. > > > > We're looking at mass buying several thousand PCI modems. The cost for a > > non-winmodem model is about 3x the Winmodem style. (You can buy winmodems > > very cheap, since everyone is making them now. You can't buy non-winmodem's > > cheap because only a fe

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Chuck Robey
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Kevin Day wrote: > > I think you're panicking prematurely, Ugen. You're also checking the > > very bottom of the market, and you're exaggerating (in your comment > > about shelling out lot's of cash for a conventional modem) the cost of > > a regular modem. Things just aren'

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Ugen Antsilevitch wrote: > Hey! > > Thanx a lot first of all! > > Anytime i CAN write something myself - i do. I can go as low as networking > code > or pseudodevice driver. But i am at loss when it comes to hardware (and within > my scope of work etc. i doubt i will ever

Re: /etc sh script cleanup ready for testing

1999-09-06 Thread Michael Reifenberger
Hi, On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Doug wrote: ... > can find the files at http://gorean.org/rcfiles/ looks good so far. I'm missing rc.serial in rcfiles. While you are at it, could you please change rc.serial to be consistent with the other rc* files? rc.serial should only implement the functions and import

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Greg Black
Matthew Dillon writes: > Though, as a side note, it should be noted that if you have DDB > enabled then lowering the secure level is pretty easy to do. If you > have access to the console, of course. It should also be noted that it makes no sense to enable DDB on systems that need to

Re: FreeBSD install questions

1999-09-06 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Jan Pechanec: > another one mentioned and shipped with FreeBSD, it enables custom > strings (OS-BS ?). OS-BS 2.0b8, found in the tools directory on FTP/CD. Don't be fooled by the beta part, there never was any non-beta of 2.0. Works fine, including booting from other disks. -- Ollivi

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message > "Matthew N. Dodd" writes: > : The real problem is the 'isa_get_foo()' calls that are used. I've got a > : small start of splitting out the ISA bits from the probe/attach routines > : but I'm really not sure what the best way to solve these is

Re: FBSD3.3RC + UMAX astra 1220S + NCR810 => panic

1999-09-06 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Kenneth D. Merry wrote ... > Wilko Bulte wrote... > > As Kenneth D. Merry wrote ... ... > > Even if we assume the scanner yelled for attention and/or the ncr > > driver is at fault I don't really understand why the cam layer > > decides to panic the machine. Wouldn't it be sufficient to return

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-06 Thread Shaun Jurrens
At the risk of being flamed for my inexperience... I caught the thread here more or less because it was a conspicuous mess on my list (and thanks to the flamers with the name suggestions, even longer). I still think that something good could be done here that of course would cause a little work,

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 08:39:54AM -0700, a little birdie told me :that Matthew Dillon remarked :> :> Though, as a side note, it should be noted that if you have DDB :> enabled then lowering the secure level is pretty easy to do. If you :> have access to the console, of course. We u

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Kevin Day
> > Hey! > > > > Thanx a lot first of all! > > > > Anytime i CAN write something myself - i do. I can go as low as networking code > > or pseudodevice driver. But i am at loss when it comes to hardware (and within > > my scope of work etc. i doubt i will ever learn this stuff). Thats why i ple

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 08:39:54AM -0700, a little birdie told me :that Matthew Dillon remarked :> :> Though, as a side note, it should be noted that if you have DDB :> enabled then lowering the secure level is pretty easy to do. If you :> have access to the console, of course. We

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Ugen Antsilevitch wrote: > Hey! > > Thanx a lot first of all! > > Anytime i CAN write something myself - i do. I can go as low as networking code > or pseudodevice driver. But i am at loss when it comes to hardware (and within > my scope of work etc. i doubt i will ever le

Re: /etc sh script cleanup ready for testing

1999-09-06 Thread Michael Reifenberger
Hi, On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Doug wrote: ... > can find the files at http://gorean.org/rcfiles/ looks good so far. I'm missing rc.serial in rcfiles. While you are at it, could you please change rc.serial to be consistent with the other rc* files? rc.serial should only implement the functions and import

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Greg Black
Matthew Dillon writes: > Though, as a side note, it should be noted that if you have DDB > enabled then lowering the secure level is pretty easy to do. If you > have access to the console, of course. It should also be noted that it makes no sense to enable DDB on systems that need t

Re: FreeBSD install questions

1999-09-06 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Jan Pechanec: > another one mentioned and shipped with FreeBSD, it enables custom > strings (OS-BS ?). OS-BS 2.0b8, found in the tools directory on FTP/CD. Don't be fooled by the beta part, there never was any non-beta of 2.0. Works fine, including booting from other disks. -- Olliv

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-06 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:23:00 -0600 Wes Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > See, for instance, the al, ax, mx, pn, vr, and wb drivers. ;^) > > ^^ > > Especially this one.. it's not a Tulip clone :-) > > Oh? vr(4) disagrees:

Re: Tulip device driver question

1999-09-06 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 16:23:00 -0600 Wes Peters wrote: > > > See, for instance, the al, ax, mx, pn, vr, and wb drivers. ;^) > > ^^ > > Especially this one.. it's not a Tulip clone :-) > > Oh? vr(4) disagrees: > > The VIA

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Matthew N. >Dodd" writes: > : The real problem is the 'isa_get_foo()' calls that are used. I've got a > : small start of splitting out the ISA bits from the probe/attach routines > : but I'm really not sure what the best wa

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-06 Thread Robert Watson
Both postmaster and mailer-daemon seem to have some amount of historical precedent. On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: > : If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like > : "mailman" might be a start. Or "mailperson

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-06 Thread Shaun Jurrens
At the risk of being flamed for my inexperience... I caught the thread here more or less because it was a conspicuous mess on my list (and thanks to the flamers with the name suggestions, even longer). I still think that something good could be done here that of course would cause a little work,

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 08:39:54AM -0700, a little birdie told me that Matthew Dillon remarked > > Though, as a side note, it should be noted that if you have DDB > enabled then lowering the secure level is pretty easy to do. If you > have access to the console, of course. We used th

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-06 Thread Robert Watson
Both postmaster and mailer-daemon seem to have some amount of historical precedent. On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <199909012256.paa01...@dingo.cdrom.com> Mike Smith writes: > : If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like > : "mailman" might be a sta

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 08:39:54AM -0700, a little birdie told me that Matthew Dillon remarked > > Though, as a side note, it should be noted that if you have DDB > enabled then lowering the secure level is pretty easy to do. If you > have access to the console, of course. We used t

Re: 2.2.8 - can't mount root

1999-09-06 Thread Doug
Darren Reed wrote: > > Is there a way to get FreeBSD 2.2.8 to ask you for the root device > rather than have it attempt to mount and fail ? The 3.x branch is a lot smarter about this, but I agree that it would be nice in those situations where it still can't find it to stop and ask rather

Re: 2.2.8 - can't mount root

1999-09-06 Thread Doug
Darren Reed wrote: > > Is there a way to get FreeBSD 2.2.8 to ask you for the root device > rather than have it attempt to mount and fail ? The 3.x branch is a lot smarter about this, but I agree that it would be nice in those situations where it still can't find it to stop and ask rathe

2.2.8 - can't mount root

1999-09-06 Thread Darren Reed
Is there a way to get FreeBSD 2.2.8 to ask you for the root device rather than have it attempt to mount and fail ? Darren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :KATO Takenori writes: :> The kernel runs with four different levels of security. :> ! Any super-user process can raise the security level, but no process :> can lower it. : :How about "The security level can only be raised by the super-user, :and cannot be lowered by anyone." instead? : :DE

2.2.8 - can't mount root

1999-09-06 Thread Darren Reed
Is there a way to get FreeBSD 2.2.8 to ask you for the root device rather than have it attempt to mount and fail ? Darren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Problems with FIFO open in non-blocking mode?

1999-09-06 Thread Zhihui Zhang
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Alex Povolotsky wrote: > Hello! > > The following program > > #include > #include > > main() { > int control; > if ((control = open("STATUS",O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK))<0) { > perror("Could not open STATUS "); > exit(1); > } >

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :KATO Takenori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: :> The kernel runs with four different levels of security. :> ! Any super-user process can raise the security level, but no process :> can lower it. : :How about "The security level can only be raised by the super-user, :and cannot be lowered by any

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > SIO doesn't support anything but isa attachments right now. Its probe > > and attach routines need to be corrected to not be ISA specific. > > I think I will tackle that soon. You'd be my (and a lot of other people's) hero. -- - bill fumerola - bi...

Re: dumps before init?

1999-09-06 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 02:36:38PM +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 05:39:01PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > How does one enable dumps before init? > > > > > > Warner > > > > According to the dumpon(8) manpage: > > > > T

Re: Problems with FIFO open in non-blocking mode?

1999-09-06 Thread Zhihui Zhang
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Alex Povolotsky wrote: > Hello! > > The following program > > #include > #include > > main() { > int control; > if ((control = open("STATUS",O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK))<0) { > perror("Could not open STATUS "); > exit(1); > } >

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > SIO doesn't support anything but isa attachments right now. Its probe > > and attach routines need to be corrected to not be ISA specific. > > I think I will tackle that soon. You'd be my (and a lot of other people's) hero. -- - bill fumerola - [EMA

Re: dumps before init?

1999-09-06 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 02:36:38PM +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 05:39:01PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > How does one enable dumps before init? > > > > > > Warner > > > > According to the dumpon(8) manpage: > > > >

Re: dumps before init?

1999-09-06 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 05:39:01PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > How does one enable dumps before init? > > > > Warner > > According to the dumpon(8) manpage: > > The dump device can also be specified at kernel compile time using the > ``dumps on'' c

Re: dumps before init?

1999-09-06 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 05:39:01PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > How does one enable dumps before init? > > Warner According to the dumpon(8) manpage: The dump device can also be specified at kernel compile time using the ``dumps on'' clause in the kernel configuration file (see config(8)). This

Re: dumps before init?

1999-09-06 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 05:39:01PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > How does one enable dumps before init? > > > > Warner > > According to the dumpon(8) manpage: > > The dump device can also be specified at kernel compile time using the > ``dumps on''

Re: dumps before init?

1999-09-06 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 05:39:01PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > How does one enable dumps before init? > > Warner According to the dumpon(8) manpage: The dump device can also be specified at kernel compile time using the ``dumps on'' clause in the kernel configuration file (see config(8)). This

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-06 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Wilko Bulte writes: > "The Wrath of Satoshi" (free interpretation of "The Wrath of Khan") > 8-) The question is, does "The Wrath of Satoshi" also have Kirstie Alley in the role of Lt. Saavik? And if it doesn't, what else does it have that makes it worth watching? Too bad she's a scientologist.

Re: FreeBSD install questions

1999-09-06 Thread Jan Pechanec
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Robert Kuan wrote: >Hi, > >I have a few questions on FreeBSD installation; I hope you would help me to >answer them. > >1. How to change the labels and modify the FreeBSD Booteasy. I.e., > >From: F1 ?? > F2 DOS > F3 DOS > F4 FreeBSD >

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-06 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Wilko Bulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "The Wrath of Satoshi" (free interpretation of "The Wrath of Khan") > 8-) The question is, does "The Wrath of Satoshi" also have Kirstie Alley in the role of Lt. Saavik? And if it doesn't, what else does it have that makes it worth watching? Too bad she'

Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel

1999-09-06 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
KATO Takenori writes: > The kernel runs with four different levels of security. > ! Any super-user process can raise the security level, but no process > can lower it. How about "The security level can only be raised by the super-user, and cannot be lowered by anyone." instead? DES -- Dag-E

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