Re: What hardware do you use ?

2002-05-10 Thread clark shishido
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 11:48:12AM -0700, Doug White wrote: > > 1) At eGroups/Y!Groups we used Intel L440GX+ motherboards. These are now > (sadly) discontinued, but supported slotted P2 and P3 CPUs. Very solid if > you used approved memory. I despise the L440GX+ mobos I have to work with at wor

Re: What hardware do you use ?

2002-05-10 Thread Dinesh Nair
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Doug White wrote: > usually have onboard everything, including dual fxp's nowadays. But they > have the ServerWorks curse. > . Tyan makes some interesting stuff, but as with all ServerWorks based > stuff, stay far, far away from the base ATA33 controller. Even the cheap wh

is it safe to temporary replace thread pcb pointer?

2002-05-10 Thread David Xu
I am working on vm86 bios call crash bug for CURRENT and have already a working patch on my machine, I have tested the patch under heavy loaded, seems be very stable. in the patch, I replace current thread pcb pointer to a temporary pcb, the pcb of course is not created by pmap, I am not very c

Re: It's not fun anymore. (Mike resigns from core)

2002-05-10 Thread Conrad Minshall
Reading this thread I see rationale, considerate responses and a general lack of flamage. Very cool... pun intended, sorry :) -- Conrad Minshall ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... 408 974-2749 Alternative email addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL P

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > Gordon Tetlow wrote: > > Is there anything that is wrong with the conceptual implementation of the > > nextboot loader code that I've submitted? It definitely needs a code > > cleanup on the forth side (which I'm not qualified to do), but if there > > a

Re: It's not fun anymore. (Mike resigns from core)

2002-05-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2002-05-08 17:20, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Of course, I also expect the old guard to fight this tooth and nail > with lots of dire predictions as to what will happen if anyone under > 30 gets into core or why only a long and hoary track-record truly > qualifies one for the job. As an old guards

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Terry Lambert
Gordon Tetlow wrote: > Is there anything that is wrong with the conceptual implementation of the > nextboot loader code that I've submitted? It definitely needs a code > cleanup on the forth side (which I'm not qualified to do), but if there > are no other objections, I'd really like to see this c

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Terry Lambert
John Baldwin wrote: > > Now is when I point out that the original nextboot predates the ELF > > format conversion, as well as the new FORTH based loader code... > > which predates running on anything other than i386 anyway (unless > > you count my Motorolla Powerstack port, or Vogel's SPARC port,

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Gordon Tetlow
Is there anything that is wrong with the conceptual implementation of the nextboot loader code that I've submitted? It definitely needs a code cleanup on the forth side (which I'm not qualified to do), but if there are no other objections, I'd really like to see this code committed. -gordon To

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread John Baldwin
On 10-May-2002 Terry Lambert wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: >> On 10-May-2002 Julian Elischer wrote: >> > You also had to have: > > [ ... ] > >> > 4/ The ability to specify a filesystem on another planet^H^H^H^H^H^Hdisk. >> >> Something you've missed in this version of nextboot is: >> >> 5/ wor

Re: kevent subsystem

2002-05-10 Thread Terry Lambert
Robert Watson wrote: > This looks much more like a syslog/audit/... mechanism, and not really > much like keven, which is about applications getting event notification on > system objects. You might be interested in talking to Andrew Reiter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> about his work on the TrustedBSD a

Re: kevent subsystem

2002-05-10 Thread Terry Lambert
Ramkumar Chinchani wrote: > I am asking more in terms of the posix event logging mechanism being > implemented in Linux 2.5.x kernel. > > http://evlog.sourceforge.net/ > > How does the kevent mechanism of event notification and handling compare > to this scheme? The POSIX 1003.25 draft that the

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Terry Lambert
John Baldwin wrote: > On 10-May-2002 Julian Elischer wrote: > > You also had to have: [ ... ] > > 4/ The ability to specify a filesystem on another planet^H^H^H^H^H^Hdisk. > > Something you've missed in this version of nextboot is: > > 5/ work on more than just i386 [ ... ] > This only works

Request for submissions: FreeBSD Bi-Monthly Development Status Report (fwd)

2002-05-10 Thread Robert Watson
Last call for submissions due this afternoon. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 15:59:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

NULLFS-related possible deadlock + fix proposal

2002-05-10 Thread Semen A. Ustimenko
Hi! Preface: Same directory is null-mounted to "/mnt" and "/mnt2". The directory contain "dir/foofile". Two processes concurently lookup "/mnt/dir/foofile" and "/mnt2/dir/foofile". Action: P1: in lookup(): in VOP_LOOKUP(dvp (== "/mnt/dir"), "foofile"): in null_lookup(): in

Re: kevent subsystem

2002-05-10 Thread Robert Watson
This looks much more like a syslog/audit/... mechanism, and not really much like keven, which is about applications getting event notification on system objects. You might be interested in talking to Andrew Reiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> about his work on the TrustedBSD audit framework, but otherwise

Re: What hardware do you use ?

2002-05-10 Thread Doug White
Removing crosspost. On Fri, 10 May 2002, Josef Grosch wrote: > This question came up at last night BAFUG meeting. What hardware do people > use and/or recommend? Specifically, if you were going to build a machine, > using commonly available parts and just to run a generic kernel, what > etherne

Re: kevent subsystem

2002-05-10 Thread Ramkumar Chinchani
I am asking more in terms of the posix event logging mechanism being implemented in Linux 2.5.x kernel. http://evlog.sourceforge.net/ How does the kevent mechanism of event notification and handling compare to this scheme? It appears to me that the Linux event logging merely supports logging o

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread John Baldwin
On 10-May-2002 Julian Elischer wrote: > You also had to have: > 1/ a way of setting the boot specification list from the running system. > 2/ a simple and unlikely-to-break method of ensuring that if the boot did NOT > succeed, it did something DIFFERENT next time. > 3/ the ability to read the sp

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Gordon Tetlow
I would also like to clarify that I never knew that there was a nextboot(8) functionality. Don't look at it as I'm trying to reimplement it. I never knew it existed in the first place =) -gordon To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of t

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Gordon Tetlow
Picking a random message to respond to... On Fri, 10 May 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > It's actually just as easy to make boot1 go read it itself, assuming > boot1 has the ability to read. It also decouples it somewhat, which > (IMO) is a good thing. This is actually the same effect they get fr

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Terry Lambert
Julian Elischer wrote: > > > Maybe you could ask Archie or Ambrisko to clarify the feature > > > you're trying to replace, and then ask Mike about the code > > > needed to do that? > > ehem.. > WHO wrote that? > :-) Me. My memory sucks for the time before I was there... ;^). I thought it was A

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Terry Lambert
Julian Elischer wrote: > I wrote the original 'nextboot to use block 1 (ususally unused) > to avoid under all circumstances writing into the filesystem. > > Also, part of the weakness of the current system is that it presumes you know > which IS the root filesystem. The original nextboot took as

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Jonathan Mini
Julian Elischer [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote : > ehem.. > WHO wrote that? > :-) I was talking about the code that James Harris and myself wrote for Array Networks, which was contributed back to FreeBSD. It allows the loader(8) to change existing files on a UFS filesystem. We wrote it so that we co

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Julian Elischer
Gordon Tetlow wrote: > > On Thu, 9 May 2002, Michael Smith wrote: > > > > I've finally learned enough forth to put together a diff to implement some > > > nextboot functionality in the loader. > > > > > > Basically, the loader peeks into the first line of /boot/nextboot.conf to > > > see if next

Re: nextboot loader diff

2002-05-10 Thread Julian Elischer
Jonathan Mini wrote: > > > > Maybe you could ask Archie or Ambrisko to clarify the feature > > you're trying to replace, and then ask Mike about the code > > needed to do that? ehem.. WHO wrote that? :-) My original aim was to allow a system to boot successfully using a sequence of possible

Re: Soft interrupts

2002-05-10 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 05:39:01PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > You probably want to have a good look at usb_ethersubr.c - it does this > sort of thing already, but for different reasons. On FreeBSD, the usb > hardware interrupts ran (pre-SMPng) as bio, not net. All of the > assumptions, proble

Re: Soft interrupts

2002-05-10 Thread Doug Rabson
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Josef Karthauser wrote: > Do we have soft interrupts? > > Here's a bit of code from the NetBSD usb stack, and I'm trying to work > out what it would be in FreeBSDland. > > sc->sc_bus->soft = softintr_establish(IPL_SOFTNET, > sc->sc_bus->methods->soft_intr,

Re: What hardware do you use ?

2002-05-10 Thread Matthias Buelow
Josef Grosch writes: >This question came up at last night BAFUG meeting. What hardware do people >use and/or recommend? Specifically, if you were going to build a machine, >using commonly available parts and just to run a generic kernel, what >ethernet, video, motherboards, etc, would you use and

What hardware do you use ?

2002-05-10 Thread Josef Grosch
This question came up at last night BAFUG meeting. What hardware do people use and/or recommend? Specifically, if you were going to build a machine, using commonly available parts and just to run a generic kernel, what ethernet, video, motherboards, etc, would you use and/or recommend? Josef -