>
>
>>
> You cannot generate a hash without at a certain automated level opening the
> file. If you can do that, couldn't you generate a hash of the first four
> bytes to match with hashes of known magic numbers? If you can "look" at the
> whole file, surely you can "look" at just the first four b
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
>> > For example, if it is part of the _terms_of_emplyment_ -- which one
>> > *agreed* to, by going to work there --that you (the employeee) give
>> > permission for the company, or it's agents, to examine any file you
>> > store on the system.
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> Obviously, it is _not_ unlawful to 'even open' a file that is 'labelled as
> private'.
>
> Herr Ghost subsequently clarified that he meant 'opened by a person' -- which,
> if _that_ is an accurate description of the law in question, means th
2011-07-19 13:57, Robert Bonomi skrev:
"male bovine excrement" applies.
Only in your jurisdiction.
Oh my. making back-ups is unlawful.
Yes
I guarantee you that _I_, as a system administrator, don't need a court
order to do such things. And, if you claim otherwise, you better be
prepar
On 19 Jul 2011, at 18:25, Polytropon wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:45:50 +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
>> You claim that OP may lawfully open his users' private files.
>> Under your jurisdiction he might, under ours he shan't.
>
> A way around such a situation is to PROHIBIT the users
> (e.
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:45:50 +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> You claim that OP may lawfully open his users' private files.
> Under your jurisdiction he might, under ours he shan't.
A way around such a situation is to PROHIBIT the users
(e. g. the employees of a company) to store private files
on c
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Jul 19 09:05:02 2011
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:03:55 +0200
> From: Damien Fleuriot
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
>
> On 7/19/11 3:49 PM, Rober
On 7/19/11 5:20 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
>> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Jul 19 08:55:07 2011
>> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:54:32 +0200
>> From: Damien Fleuriot
>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: Tools to find "
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Jul 19 08:55:07 2011
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:54:32 +0200
> From: Damien Fleuriot
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
>
>
>
> On 7/19/11 1:
On 7/19/11 3:49 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
> Do you mean to suggest that an employee _cannot_ give permission to *anyone*
> (whether it is the employer, or just a friend) to look at any file that is
> categorized as 'private' ??
>
> If they can give permission for 'someone' to look at a particular
On Jul 19, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> Hey look, all your points were moot and easily rebuked.
And he just burped... don't feed the the trolls by calling them trolls.
Instead, call them "Ecky Ecky Ecky F'tang F'tang Olé Biscuitbarrel".
-r-
estions@freebsd.org"
>> Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/11 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
>>>> On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:1
> From cpgh...@cordula.ws Tue Jul 19 07:26:51 2011
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:27:01 +0200
> Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
> From: "C. P. Ghost"
> To: Robert Bonomi
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>
> On
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
>> The poorly written IT TOS of a company can never bypass the law,
>> regardless of anything you agreed to in your company's TOS.
>
> "male bovine excrement" applies.
>
> For example, if it is part of the _terms_of_emplyment_ -- which one
> *a
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jerome Herman wrote:
> The best way to block illegal download before they happen. I found that
> closing most ports and requiring a login and password before giving access
> to unknown websites works wonder. (The access to the website is not blocked
> in any way, b
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Jul 19 05:54:52 2011
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:54:38 +0200
> From: Damien Fleuriot
> To: "C. P. Ghost"
> Cc: Frank Bonnet ,
> "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"
> Subject: Re: Tools to find "un
On 19/07/2011 12:54, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
On 7/19/11 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet wrote:
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
- find and delete the files that's all.
Bon c
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:54:38 +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> Delete the files from your file server, next they'll swap them on
> external drives and USB keys.
The only _working_ solution to get rid of the problem is
to get rid of the files in question. :-)
Maybe it's possible to change the terms
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> On 7/19/11 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
>>> On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet wrote:
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
- find and dele
On 7/19/11 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
>> On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet wrote:
>>> In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
>>>
>>> - find and delete the files that's all.
>>
>> Bon courage then...
>>
>> A file
Frank Bonnet writes:
Hi,
> We'll see who will win ;-)
Check this :
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_de_l'informatique_en_France
The fact you can do something doesn't mean you're allowed to...
--
Moi je trouve qu'il est debile de vouloir detruir kekel ke chose
MG> Ta touche k est coincée
On 7/19/11 12:08 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
> To check the magic numbers, you don't need a hash. Just check the
> magic numbers (where legally allowable). However, a magic number would
> merely say: this is an MP3, this is a MPEG file etc...: it is just a
> hint (and a very weak one at that) as to the
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Lars Eighner
wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, C. P. Ghost wrote:
>
>> Speaking with my university sysadmin hat on: you're NOT allowed to
>> peek inside personal files of your users, UNLESS the user has waived
>> his/her rights to privacy by explicitly agreeing to the
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, C. P. Ghost wrote:
Speaking with my university sysadmin hat on: you're NOT allowed to
peek inside personal files of your users, UNLESS the user has waived
his/her rights to privacy by explicitly agreeing to the TOS and
there's legal language in the TOS that allows staff to i
On 07/19/2011 11:06 AM, C. P. Ghost wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet wrote:
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
- find and delete the files that's all.
Bon courage then...
A file can not be illegal p
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
> On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet wrote:
>> In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
>>
>> - find and delete the files that's all.
>
> Bon courage then...
>
> A file can not be illegal per se, so you won't be able to
mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:
> > "perryh" == perryh writes:
> perryh> xxx it doesn't address the question of whether a
> perryh> specific copy is "legal", i.e. did the user who
> perryh> put it there have the legal right to put it there?
>
> There's no tool that can do t
Robert Bonomi wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:01:53 -0700
> > From: per...@pluto.rain.com
> > Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
> >
> > Robert Bonomi wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > All well and good f
On 07/19/2011 08:55 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote:
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet wrote:
Wow wow !!! I did not want to start a flame war with my post ...
Things for me are clear :
In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
- find and delete the files that's all.
Bon co
On 19 Jul 2011, at 08:15, Frank Bonnet wrote:
> Wow wow !!! I did not want to start a flame war with my post ...
>
> Things for me are clear :
>
> In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction :
>
> - find and delete the files that's all.
>
Bon courage then...
A file can not be
Jul 19 00:05:30 2011
Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
From: Ryan Coleman
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:05:27 -0500
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
To: Robert Bonomi
On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:01:53 -0700 Fr
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:05:27 -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> Go to hell. He wants to rename the files that are illegal
> to ones that aren't.
It's not the file names that matter, it's the content.
Just assume that students at a university use a file server
to store pr0n although the terms of use pro
> From edi...@d3photography.com Tue Jul 19 00:05:30 2011
> Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
> From: Ryan Coleman
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:05:27 -0500
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> To: Robert Bonomi
>
>
> On Jul
On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:01:53 -0700
>> From: per...@pluto.rain.com
>> Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
>>
>> Robert Bonomi wrote:
>>
>>
>>
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:01:53 -0700
> From: per...@pluto.rain.com
> Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
>
> Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
>
>
> All well and good for locating files of a certain format and/or
> with partic
> "perryh" == perryh writes:
perryh> All well and good for locating files of a certain format and/or
perryh> with particular content, but it doesn't address the question of
perryh> whether a specific copy is "legal", i.e. did the user who put it
perryh> there have the legal right to put it t
Robert Bonomi wrote:
All well and good for locating files of a certain format and/or
with particular content, but it doesn't address the question of
whether a specific copy is "legal", i.e. did the user who put it
there have the legal right to put it there?
_
On 07/18/2011 11:44 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 03:55:59 2011
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:55:58 +0200
From: Frank Bonnet
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
On 07/18/201
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 03:55:59 2011
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:55:58 +0200
> From: Frank Bonnet
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )
>
> On 07/18/2011 10:45 AM, P
On 07/18/2011 10:45 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:38:22 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
Hello
Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command
in order to detect video, m
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:38:22 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
> On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command
> >> in order to detect video, music, games ... etc f
On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
Hello
Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command
in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ?
I need a tool that could "inspect" inside files because many users
ren
Grep.
Ryan Coleman
On Jul 18, 2011, at 2:55, Frank Bonnet wrote:
> Hello
>
> Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command
> in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ?
>
> I need a tool that could "inspect" inside files because many users
> rename those filenam
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
> Hello
>
> Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command
> in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ?
>
> I need a tool that could "inspect" inside files because many users
> rename those filename to "inoffens
Hello
Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command
in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ?
I need a tool that could "inspect" inside files because many users
rename those filename to "inoffensive" ones :-)
We are facing a legal problem so I'm a bit in the hurr
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