Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Monday 03 April 2006 12:00, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > > If you are using a cheap RAID like Promise TX2 or just about any onboard > > IDE/SATA RAID that FreeBSD supports the array can be used on ANY system. > > (Except for booting) > > More concisely, is this because said cheap RAID controllers all

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Tenebrae
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Tenebrae wrote: > I was looking at the Adaptec Serial ATA II RAID 1420SA and Promise > FastTrak TX4300 4-port SATA RAID PCI adapters. I did find a note on the > Promise card that it is now supported in Current. Is this something that > might make its way into the 6.x-STABLE b

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Darren Pilgrim
Daniel O'Connor wrote: On Monday 03 April 2006 04:39, George Hartzell wrote: With raid systems that use proprietary metadata I'd need to find a similar controller to hook them up to. Actually no.. If you are using a cheap RAID like Promise TX2 or just about any onboard IDE/SATA RAID that Free

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread George Hartzell
Daniel O'Connor writes: > On Monday 03 April 2006 04:39, George Hartzell wrote: > > With raid systems that use proprietary metadata I'd need to find a > > similar controller to hook them up to. > > Actually no.. > If you are using a cheap RAID like Promise TX2 or just about any onboard > I

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Monday 03 April 2006 04:39, George Hartzell wrote: > With raid systems that use proprietary metadata I'd need to find a > similar controller to hook them up to. Actually no.. If you are using a cheap RAID like Promise TX2 or just about any onboard IDE/SATA RAID that FreeBSD supports the array

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Lars Cleary
I may need to build a box with a RAID 5 array. After checking the OpenBSD pages for their bioctl's driver support. Because I really prefer open drivers, and bioctl seems to be coming Pretty Soon Now to FreeBSD too. And their bioctl supports the AMI driver http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?q

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread George Hartzell
Daniel O'Connor writes: > On Sunday 02 April 2006 17:48, Matthias Andree wrote: > > > You can't boot off a system with a dead primary disk with software RAID1. > > > (well you MIGHT but.. in any case RAID1 cards are quite cheap) > > > > It's a matter of the BIOS: > > will it complain, or will

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Sunday 02 April 2006 17:48, Matthias Andree wrote: > > You can't boot off a system with a dead primary disk with software RAID1. > > (well you MIGHT but.. in any case RAID1 cards are quite cheap) > > It's a matter of the BIOS: > will it complain, or will it proceed to the next SATA disk? Yes in

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Matthias Andree
Tenebrae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Matthias Andree wrote: > >> RAID1 is _not_ a backup, but an availability aid. >> If going for RAID1, be sure to add a backup solution. > > More to think about...thank you. > I am trying to get some peace of mind on a budget, though. I sup

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-02 Thread Matthias Andree
"Daniel O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sunday 02 April 2006 05:20, Lars Cleary wrote: >> Why don't you just use gmirror(8) and do software RAID 1? >> >> IMHO a controller just for RAID 1 is unnecessary, >> as the OS together with a reasonable motherboards disk controller >> is just as

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-01 Thread Tenebrae
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Matthias Andree wrote: > RAID1 is _not_ a backup, but an availability aid. > If going for RAID1, be sure to add a backup solution. More to think about...thank you. I am trying to get some peace of mind on a budget, though. I suppose I need to give more consideration to what m

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-01 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Sunday 02 April 2006 05:20, Lars Cleary wrote: > Why don't you just use gmirror(8) and do software RAID 1? > > IMHO a controller just for RAID 1 is unnecessary, > as the OS together with a reasonable motherboards disk controller > is just as fast as any RAID controller. You can't boot off a sys

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-01 Thread Matthias Andree
Tenebrae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm interested in this "newfangled" serial ATA stuff I've been hearing > about (heh) and thought I might try my hand at getting a RAID1 mirror > going on for my home dirs. Sadly, I have no experience with RAID. > I had initially planned on just setting up tw

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-01 Thread Dominic Marks
Tenebrae wrote: On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Lars Cleary wrote: Why don't you just use gmirror(8) and do software RAID 1? IMHO a controller just for RAID 1 is unnecessary, as the OS together with a reasonable motherboards disk controller is just as fast as any RAID controller. Ah, I knew I should hav

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-01 Thread Tenebrae
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Lars Cleary wrote: > Why don't you just use gmirror(8) and do software RAID 1? > > IMHO a controller just for RAID 1 is unnecessary, > as the OS together with a reasonable motherboards disk controller > is just as fast as any RAID controller. Ah, I knew I should have mentioned

Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-01 Thread Lars Cleary
Tenebrae wrote: The server will be primarily an e-mail and web server for private use with some rather large files. There are only a handful of users, but it gets a bit busy at times when the DJs do an update. I hope to get this up and running in the next month. If I've missed something painfu

SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?

2006-04-01 Thread Tenebrae
Hello out there in FreeBSD land (and I hope Søren peeks in, too). I've been rather behind the times here and am finally getting around to building a replacement server for my absolutely ancient FreeBSD 4.7 system. It's starting to experience problems (like a couple random lock-ups/reboots) and I'