Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Justin Porterfield
These are 64bit PCI slots, not PCI-X, there is a huge difference. There was an early G5 PowerMac that had PCI-X slots but no G4 ever did. > > Picture of a G4 MDD showing the PCI-X slots on the left hand side: > > http://guide-images.ifixit.**net/igi/YU2gIgVCdH1L3hSa

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread peterhaas
> Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are > about 3 1/2" long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5" The early, low integration PCI cards needed all the space which could be provided by the original IBM specification for the PC. Still, even on a late Mac PPC, long card

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/16/11 10:41 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: No. The long slots in a G4 are NOT PCI-X. The original PCI slot spec allows for a long version that requires the extra slot length. Uh, I think your confusing full length cards and regular length cards. Both of which could be PCI or PCI-X. Card lengt

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread JohnV
I ran into this recently trying to get a ppc G5 MOTU audio card. even with a long detailed conversation on teh phone with a MOTu tech advisor, we STILL got teh wrong card shipped to me. PCI-X - its fully backwards compatible with regular PCI, but can operate at 64bit and 66mhz or higher

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Eric Hall
According to this from Apple, no G4 has PCI-X: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3082 From: Valter Prahlad To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Re: PCI question Il giorno 16-11-2011 18:41, Brielle Bruns ha scritto

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/16/11 10:45 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 16-11-2011 18:41, Brielle Bruns ha scritto: The G4 has PCI-X slots - I have a MDD sitting here, next to me, with a PCI-X fibre channel card running in 64bit, albeit its the older PCI-X standard so it only runs 33mhz. Just confirmed this wit

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 16-11-2011 18:41, Brielle Bruns ha scritto: > The G4 has PCI-X slots - I have a MDD sitting here, next to me, with a > PCI-X fibre channel card running in 64bit, albeit its the older PCI-X > standard so it only runs 33mhz. > > Just confirmed this with Mactracker - there's 4 PCI-X 64bit/

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/16/11 10:32 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 16, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: On 11/16/11 10:22 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2" long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5" PCI-X - its fully backwards co

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 16, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: > On 11/16/11 10:22 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: >> Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about >> 3 1/2" long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5" >> > > > PCI-X - its fully backwards compatible with regular PCI, but

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 16, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: > Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 > 1/2" long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5" There are multiple standards for the PCI spec, and some long cards. The slots in the Mac fit both, the PC ones don't.

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/16/11 10:22 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2" long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5" PCI-X - its fully backwards compatible with regular PCI, but can operate at 64bit and 66mhz or higher depending on chipset capa

Re: PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 16-11-2011 18:22, Alex Barnes ha scritto: > Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are > about 3 1/2" long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5" I'm no hardware expert, but I think the short ones are 32-bit, and longer ones are 64-bit. Actually there are at lea

PCI question

2011-11-16 Thread Alex Barnes
Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2" long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5" -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FA