Philosophical discussions are always worth a couple of cents of my own :-)
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Tim Vernum wrote:
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> From: Sam Ruby (23 May 2001 10:02 AM)
>
> > Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > >
> > > What is going on here? I fixed this code almost two days ago.
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/bu
Sam Ruby wrote:
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> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >
> > There is nothing (other than the sloth of Daedalus) which prevents us
> > from adding any 'test' we want - Gump is running the Velocity testbed,
> > for example, which is more than interface-related, but functional as
> > well.
>
> That test
> > 3) Developers can't/don't test other projects.
> >This is particularly relevant to ant, but also to some of the XML
> > and (soon) commons modules.
> >A number of build failures have been due to changes in ant.
> >Ant should continue to be free to change things as needed to ma
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
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> There is nothing (other than the sloth of Daedalus) which prevents us
> from adding any 'test' we want - Gump is running the Velocity testbed,
> for example, which is more than interface-related, but functional as
> well.
That test suite takes 58 seconds to run. I t
Tim Vernum wrote:
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> In general, I believe that automated build/test processes are *very*
> important, an do work.
> We've got some teams using CruiseControl here, and it is doing well.
> The reasons I think that gump registers so many failures are:
>
> 1) The environment in which gump runs is n
Resending because in my haste, I left out a few crucial words...added in
ALL CAPS.
Tim Vernum wrote:
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> 1) The environment in which gump runs is not identical to the
> environment the developers run (OS, jdk, jars, etc), and I'm
> not sure if it is even well defined.
It is well defined, and
Tim Vernum wrote:
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> 1) The environment in which gump runs is not identical to the
> environment the developers run (OS, jdk, jars, etc), and I'm
> not sure if it is even well defined.
It is well defined, and you can even run it yourself. Loosely, it can be
described as "the latest CVS of e
From: Sam Ruby (23 May 2001 10:02 AM)
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >
> > What is going on here? I fixed this code almost two days ago.
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/gump/2001-05-21/cvs_index.html
> http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/gump/2001-05-22/cvs_index.html
>
> Compare this to the "good
Jason van Zyl wrote:
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> What is going on here? I fixed this code almost two days ago.
http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/gump/2001-05-21/cvs_index.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/gump/2001-05-22/cvs_index.html
Compare this to the "good old days":
http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/gump/2001-