Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Zsitvai János
Hi, > I suspect your root is a lot more than it needs to be, does it > include /opt? No, it actually turns out that I have a lot of cruft in /root. Outdated portage snapshots, old kernel images moved from /boot when it filled up, mysql binary log files I weren't sure were essential.. Without all

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Zsitvai János
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That only means you made / too big, the same would happen if you > made /boot too big. My / partition is 400MB and less than 50% full, 300MB > would be plenty. And I could easily shrink it down to a sane size were it on LVM. That was kinda the point. Ove

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:06:18 +0200, Zsitvai János wrote: > > Which is what I used to do, and means you have a separate /boot > > partition and need an initrd. By combining / and /boot, you have one > > less partition, the same number of non-LVM partitions and no initrd. > > It also means that n

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Zsitvai János
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Which is what I used to do, and means you have a separate /boot partition > and need an initrd. By combining / and /boot, you have one less > partition, the same number of non-LVM partitions and no initrd. It also means that now I have half a gig going u

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Marc Joliet, > What I meant was that I have / on a logical volume, so I can't > put /root on it. Which is what I used to do, and means you have a separate /boot partition and need an initrd. By combining / and /boot, you have one less partition, the same number of non-LVM partitions and no

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:46:10 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello Marc Joliet, > > > > > I use lvm, so that wouldn't yield good results :-/. > > > > > > I too use LVM and it yields excellent results. > > > > > > > Now that is you have to explain to me. Is the stage2 fou

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Marc Joliet, > > > I use lvm, so that wouldn't yield good results :-/. > > > > I too use LVM and it yields excellent results. > > > > Now that is you have to explain to me. Is the stage2 found regardless > due to the hardcoded pointer upon installing? So the 'logical' part of > the vo

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:41:22 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello Marc Joliet, > > > > Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't > > > needed with modern hardware. > > > > I use lvm, so that wouldn't yield good results :-/. > > I too use LVM and it

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Marc Joliet, > > Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't > > needed with modern hardware. > > I use lvm, so that wouldn't yield good results :-/. I too use LVM and it yields excellent results. -- Neil Bothwick IBM: Inferior But Marketable. signature.asc De

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-29 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Montag, den 27.08.2007, 11:58 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any other recommended mount options? Right now they are defaults,noauto,user_xat

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-29 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Montag, den 27.08.2007, 11:58 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: > > > Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any > > other recommended mount options? Right now they are > > > > defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2 > > The

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:52:39 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't > >needed with modern hardware. > Unless you want to use LVM. In which case it's just as easy to use a small root partition, including /boot, /lib, /bin etc.

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Dave Jones
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote on 27/08/07 22:52: > On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > about 'Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?': >> Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed >> with mod

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?': >Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed >with modern hardware. Unless you want to use LVM.

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Mick
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: > > Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any > > other recommended mount options? Right now they are > > > > defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2 > > The trouble with using

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 27 August 2007, Mick wrote: > On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't > > needed with modern hardware. > > Please tell us more. Many many many years ago, back in the dark days of small drives and broken BIOSes,

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Mick, > > Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't > > needed with modern hardware. > > Please tell us more. A separate /boot is to get round BIOS limitation that prevent accessing beyond the first so many cylinders (1024?) of a drive, so it was essential to have

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Mick
On Monday 27 August 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Alternatively, ditch a separate /boot altogether, it really isn't needed > with modern hardware. Please tell us more. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:58 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: > Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any > other recommended mount options? Right now they are > > defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2 The trouble with using noauto is that sooner or later you will forget to mount /b

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-25 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Freitag, den 24.08.2007, 23:43 +0100 schrieb Mick: > On Friday 24 August 2007, Marc Joliet wrote: > > Am Freitag, den 24.08.2007, 19:42 +0100 schrieb Mick: > > > > At that stage you should have checked if the symlink /boot/grub/menu.lst > > > is still there and, or if its permissions were messe

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-24 Thread Mick
On Friday 24 August 2007, Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Freitag, den 24.08.2007, 19:42 +0100 schrieb Mick: > > At that stage you should have checked if the symlink /boot/grub/menu.lst > > is still there and, or if its permissions were messed up. > > Yes, I should have. I know it was there, though, since

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-24 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Freitag, den 24.08.2007, 19:42 +0100 schrieb Mick: > On Friday 24 August 2007, Marc Joliet wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After the reboot following my daily upgrade from yesterday - during > > which a revised kernel was installed - GRUB just wouldn't finish > > starting. It's attempt to start looked li

Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-24 Thread Mick
On Friday 24 August 2007, Marc Joliet wrote: > Hi, > > After the reboot following my daily upgrade from yesterday - during > which a revised kernel was installed - GRUB just wouldn't finish > starting. It's attempt to start looked like this: > > GRUB _ > > with the underscore blinking. Ctrl-alt-del

[gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?

2007-08-24 Thread Marc Joliet
Hi, After the reboot following my daily upgrade from yesterday - during which a revised kernel was installed - GRUB just wouldn't finish starting. It's attempt to start looked like this: GRUB _ with the underscore blinking. Ctrl-alt-del (reboot) worked. Now, to make it clear, I solved that: aft