Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 09:44:16AM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote > I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are > unaccountably large. > > I'm talking about C programs of my own, so no version related issues > whatsoever. The computer is a core i3 with a 32 bit system. > > Examp

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 09:44:16AM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote >> I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are >> unaccountably large. > "-fno-unwind-tables" is the extra flag I have that you don't have. > See http://co

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 28.09.2014 10:44, schrieb Jorge Almeida: I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are unaccountably large. Really? Who cares. Storage is so cheap nowadays, that that kind of "bloat" simply doesn't matter on normal deskop computers anymore. Embedded systems though are

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote: > Am 28.09.2014 10:44, schrieb Jorge Almeida: > >> I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are >> unaccountably large. > > > Really? Who cares. Storage is so cheap nowadays, that that kind of "bloat" > simply doesn't matter

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:45:44PM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote > Just tried it, no difference. The point is that the same flags should > yield similar results, and I'm getting the worst results on my Gentoo > system. Grasping at straws now. What are your CFLAGS and full USE flags? I suggest ru

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Kerin Millar
On 29/09/2014 16:10, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote: Am 28.09.2014 10:44, schrieb Jorge Almeida: I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are unaccountably large. Really? Who cares. Storage is so cheap nowadays, that that kind

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:45:44PM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote > > > Grasping at straws now. What are your CFLAGS and full USE flags? I > suggest running the command... > > emerge --info | grep "^\(CFLAGS\|USE\)" > > This captures default

[gentoo-user] Re: Running a program on a headless computer ?

2014-09-29 Thread James
gmx.de> writes: > I want to run programs, which insist on haveing a terminal > to write their status to and which are writing files which > their results on a headless computer (beaglebone). > Is there any neat trick to accomplish what I am trying to do here? > mcc Hello meino, Back when din

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Poison BL.
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Kerin Millar > wrote: >> On 29/09/2014 16:10, Jorge Almeida wrote: >>> > > I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are > unaccountably large. > >> >> You might consider ma

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Kerin Millar wrote: > On 29/09/2014 16:10, Jorge Almeida wrote: >> I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are unaccountably large. >>> > > You might consider making contact with the toolchain herd at gentoo or > filing a bug. I, f

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Daniel Troeder
Am 28.09.2014 um 10:44 schrieb Jorge Almeida: > I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are > unaccountably large. > > I'm talking about C programs of my own, so no version related issues > whatsoever. The computer is a core i3 with a 32 bit system. > > Example, for the same

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Marc Stürmer wrote: > Am 28.09.2014 10:44, schrieb Jorge Almeida: > >> I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are >> unaccountably large. > > > Really? Who cares. Storage is so cheap nowadays, that that kind of "bloat" > simply doesn't matte

[gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

2014-09-29 Thread Andrew Lowe
Hi all, Just what is happening with ebuilds today? At work, I'm in the process of setting up a workstation using the KDE profile. I've gone to the KDE install doco on the wiki, http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE, had a read and it says that I'll need D-Bus, polkit, udev and udisks. I can emerg

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Daniel Troeder wrote: > Am 28.09.2014 um 10:44 schrieb Jorge Almeida: >> I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are >> unaccountably large. >> >> Jorge Almeida >> > Hi :) Hi, thanks for replying. > > I have compared some exes and libs fro

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Poison BL. wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: >> I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are >> unaccountably large. > >> >> > > Just the off the top of my head thoughts on how I'd approach this. GCC

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 04:32:40PM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:45:44PM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote > > > > > > Grasping at straws now. What are your CFLAGS and full USE flags? I > > suggest running the command..

Re: [gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

2014-09-29 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > Just what is happening with ebuilds today? At work, I'm in the process > of setting up a workstation using the KDE profile. I've gone to the KDE > install doco on the wiki, http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE, had a read > and it

Re: [gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

2014-09-29 Thread Mick
On Monday 29 Sep 2014 18:18:06 Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > Just what is happening with ebuilds today? At work, I'm in the process > of setting up a workstation using the KDE profile. I've gone to the KDE > install doco on the wiki, http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE, had a read > and it says

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Stroller
On Mon, 29 September 2014, at 5:35 pm, Daniel Troeder wrote: > … > IMO you shouldn't compare 4.8.x with 4.9.x. Definitely this. OP should be doing everything he can to match the environment on both systems. This means matching versions of gcc, glibc and of all their libraries and other depen

Re: [gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

2014-09-29 Thread Stroller
On Mon, 29 September 2014, at 6:18 pm, Andrew Lowe wrote: > … That many > files want to come along to the party that I can't "Shift PgUp" back up > through my text console to see it all - a text console because I don't > have any graphics installed yet. emerge tmux Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Stroller wrote: > > On Mon, 29 September 2014, at 5:35 pm, Daniel Troeder > wrote: >> … >> IMO you shouldn't compare 4.8.x with 4.9.x. > > Definitely this. > > OP should be doing everything he can to match the environment on both systems. > > This means matching

Re: [gentoo-user] bloated by gcc

2014-09-29 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Stroller > wrote: >> >> >> OP should be doing everything he can to match the environment on both >> systems. >> > Since the problem is the same with dietlibc, glibc is not causing the > discrepancy. And my

Re: [gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

2014-09-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:18:06 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Just what is happening with ebuilds today? At work, I'm in the > process of setting up a workstation using the KDE profile. I've gone to > the KDE install doco on the wiki, http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE, had > a read and it says that