Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

On Saturday, 2015-09-19, 23:06:47, Eike Hein wrote: > On 09/19/2015 10:32 PM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > > I don't see there this github review is coming from. > > Review is an interactive process where you ask for changes and > iterate. Once you open the door to doing it on GitHub, you will: > > *

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

On 2015-09-20, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > But effectively it won't be reviews because the KDE reviewers won't use it. > Or do you think we need some dracon law because our community cannot do > self-control? I have just been fooled once regarding github and KDE. That makes me not

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

On 2015-09-20, Kevin Krammer wrote: > First, I have no idea where this "use github for review" comes from at = > all. > Who wants to do that in the first place? The github pull requests comes automatically with review abilities, so once it is there and one already interacts with

Re: [kde-community] Help for sprint guidance/organization

On Saturday, September 19, 2015 04:17:11 PM Martin Klapetek wrote: > so I haven't really organized any sprints myself but have participated > in many, some good, some less good. So here's my personal take > on this speaking from experience: Thanks, it was really appreciated! For those wondering,

Re: [kde-community] "Fork Me" button within the kde git infrastructure?

On 21 September 2015 at 01:27, Michael Pyne wrote: > On Mon, September 21, 2015 00:05:33 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: >> PS: Freedom of forking - derivative works is not so terrible, it's a >> pilliar of FOSS. > > Last time I tried it, running git-clone against our KDE git

Re: [kde-community] "Fork Me" button within the kde git infrastructure?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > This is about r-w git repo for KDE and non-KDE devs. > In git times the need is easier to understand for someone who > interacts with 3rd party projects at code level. > > What is your workflow in this case? > Do you send

Re: [kde-community] "Fork Me" button within the kde git infrastructure?

On Mon, September 21, 2015 00:05:33 Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > PS: Freedom of forking - derivative works is not so terrible, it's a > pilliar of FOSS. Last time I tried it, running git-clone against our KDE git infrastructure still worked just fine, and thus forking is quite easy to do. Did this

Re: [kde-community] "Fork Me" button within the kde git infrastructure?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > I see you're not used to the diverse term on github-alike sites: > forking is more like creating a feature branch. The repo is separate > but changes can be merged back (how it's a matter of tool set). It is just like

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2015-09-20, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: >> But effectively it won't be reviews because the KDE reviewers won't use it. >> Or do you think we need some dracon law because our community cannot do >>

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 06:39:02 PM Bhushan Shah wrote: > We don't need to replace Facebook.. tada. > > Facebook is not part of our development nor anything.. So lets not > compare with facebook.. When we talk about github and do our reviews > there. It will be recorded there and if github

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Martin Klapetek wrote: > > Gnome in their years history of github mirroring had 4 pull requests > (it was mentioned in the other thread...one of the others). Sorry no [1]

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 10:50:43 AM Martin Klapetek wrote: > Gnome in their years history of github mirroring had 4 pull requests > (it was mentioned in the other thread...one of the others). > > So we might very likely be talking non-issues here anyway. 100% agreed -Riccardo

Re: [kde-community] Bikeshedding - our strength apparently *sigh*

On 09/20/2015 01:31 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: > Hehe! Only on a KDE list could an exhortion to stop bikeshedding become > the latest bikeshed! The Debian community is currently having a bikeshed over whether to call a new community tool Bikeshed. We can't hope to compete. > Anne Cheers, Eike

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On 09/20/2015 02:26 PM, Loïc Grobol wrote: > Let's try not to be extreme. If someone was able to post a pull > request, they should be able to switch to Phab if they want to > participate when notified. Let's not be naive, either. People are lazy. That's been one of the arguments for enabling

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On 20 September 2015 at 14:29, Eike Hein wrote: > Let's not be naive, either. People are lazy. That's been > one of the arguments for enabling GitHub pull requests. IIRC the main argument was not laziness, it was discoverability. But if we have a nice wiki page to guide people in

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Loïc Grobol wrote: > Granted even before that, we can see if there is enough pull request attempts to justify writing such a bot. > Gnome in their years history of github mirroring had 4 pull requests (it was mentioned in the other

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 10:59 AM, David Edmundson < da...@davidedmundson.co.uk> wrote: > > I said that number but wrt "GTK" not "Gnome" > Oops, my apologies then. Somehow I've interchanged them in my memory. Cheers -- Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer

Re: [kde-community] Bikeshedding - our strength apparently *sigh*

On 19/09/2015 15:24, Eike Hein wrote: > > > On 09/19/2015 02:12 PM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> Some of you wanted the mirror on Github because apparently there >> are developers out there who are too lazy (or too dumb) to learn to >> use new tools. Are those developers we want? > >

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

On 2015-09-20, Riccardo Iaconelli wrote: > How exactly have you been fooled? > Proposal #1 - accepted, Proposal #1 was a pure mirror. No other services used. Before the initial mirror was actually completed, the next proposal comes up to start doing even more github. >

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On 19 September 2015 at 20:14, Eike Hein wrote: > Making the bot post Phab traffic back to GitHub is a > fix to the notification problem, but doesn't help with > getting the requestee to participate unless you make a > full bridge. Let's try not to be extreme. If someone was able to

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 12:26:41 PM Sune Vuorela wrote: > Free software needs free tools. I am sorry, but sadly this is not the state of the art. KDE has been created with many non free tools and currently co-exists in many non-free environments. We can either decide to live with it and

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 02:39:53 PM Loïc Grobol wrote: > IIRC the main argument was not laziness, it was discoverability. But > if we have a nice wiki page to guide people in the switching process, > it should be relatively painless. In any way, we can still try and see > if the issue

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 01:51:19 PM Laszlo Papp wrote: > I just do not happen to see this case strong enough to support, > personally. We have not even tried to see how the mirror works out, > and we already think of whether or not it is a big problem not > allowing pull requests, et al. It

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Eike Hein wrote: > On 09/20/2015 02:26 PM, Loïc Grobol wrote: > > Let's try not to be extreme. If someone was able to post a pull > > request, they should be able to switch to Phab if they want to > > participate when notified. > > Let's not be

Re: [kde-community] A bridge between Phab and Github?

On 2015-09-20, Emil Sedgh wrote: > What if we create a bot that makes a review request on our internal tool > (Phab/Reviewboard) for each Github Pull request and tries to make a > bridge between KDE's infrastructure and Github? > > A bot that would sync the

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 03:01:09 PM Luigi Toscano wrote: > Riccardo Iaconelli ha scritto: > > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 12:26:41 PM Sune Vuorela wrote: > >> Free software needs free tools. > > > > I am sorry, but sadly this is not the state of the art. KDE has been > > created with many

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 03:01:09 PM Luigi Toscano wrote: > Riccardo Iaconelli ha scritto: > > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 12:26:41 PM Sune Vuorela wrote: > >> Free software needs free tools. > > > > I am sorry, but sadly this is not the state of the art. KDE has been > > created with many

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Martin Klapetek wrote: > On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Bhushan Shah wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Martin Klapetek >> wrote: >> > >> > Gnome in their years history of

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

Riccardo Iaconelli ha scritto: > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 12:26:41 PM Sune Vuorela wrote: >> Free software needs free tools. > > I am sorry, but sadly this is not the state of the art. KDE has been created > with many non free tools and currently co-exists in many non-free > environments.

Re: [kde-community] What is a GitHub pull request exactly?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Riccardo Iaconelli wrote: > exactly, as soon as we could. > But not all tools simply are technical alternatives. Can we replace Facebook? > Sure, we could join Diaspora. But we would be missing out on the community > already present on Facebook.

Re: [kde-community] Renaming KScreenGenie

Selfie suggests that it would use a webcam to take a picture. A misleading name is not a good name IMHO. On 19 September 2015 20:08:06 BST, Rajeev Bhatta wrote: >Selfie is better than Kapture for sure.. :) > >On Saturday, September 19, 2015 08:38:41 PM Eike Hein wrote:

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Bhushan Shah wrote: > On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Martin Klapetek > wrote: > > > > Gnome in their years history of github mirroring had 4 pull requests > > (it was mentioned in the other thread...one of the

Re: [kde-community] Write our own pull request bot?

On 2015-09-20, Martin Klapetek wrote: > Gnome in their years history of github mirroring had 4 pull requests > (it was mentioned in the other thread...one of the others). > > So we might very likely be talking non-issues here anyway. Gnome is actively advicing against

Re: [kde-community] A bridge between Phab and Github?

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2015-09-20, Emil Sedgh wrote: > > What if we create a bot that makes a review request on our internal tool > > (Phab/Reviewboard) for each Github Pull request and tries to make a > > bridge between

Re: [kde-community] Have repo maintainers opt-in for github mirroring (was: Re: Official KDE mirror on github)

Hi David, Nice idea to have a wiki page explaining the process. I was going through the text and have some suggestions for some of the text on the wiki page. "GitHubMirror KDE is managing a mirror of projects.kde.org on Github. We want to make KDE sources easy to find, share and build upon;

Re: [kde-community] Official KDE mirror on github

I went back to the beginning of this discussion, and think a few issues have been passed over. For instance, this one which has nothing to do with the Github mirror, and everything to do with improving our own software / discoverability: On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Jos van den Oever

Re: [kde-community] "Fork Me" button within the kde git infrastructure?

On 20 September 2015 at 23:55, David Narvaez wrote: > On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: >> Hi >> I'd like to ask if this can be technically feasible and something we want: > > > > The subject sounds to me like a terrible idea,