Re: [lace-chat] Re: Katrina devastaion

- I just don't think it would do that much for survival. Also, Poland hasn't been communist since 1989. And Russia since 1991 or so? The only communist countries in the world now are I think China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, Vietnam. Weronika -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http:

Re: [lace-chat] Re: coffee and tea preferences

me lots of sticky candy with it. When I was a kid, my mom said I'm a freak because I won't drink tea... Everyone else in my family does. I like water, milk, hot chocolate, and random soft drinks. Ah, and Thai ice tea, but I don't think that counts. Weronika -- Weronika Pate

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Language Evolution

blems, too, though not as great: on, or a > (with a hook)? en, or e with a hook? Yep. And there's a bunch of other minor things, depending a lot on how clearly you pronounce things. Weronika -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Language Evolution

tion changes... Or maybe because everyone knows how to read and write now, we'll just have fewer pronounciation changes in order to stay consistent with the spelling. Linguistics is fun... Weronika -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubsc

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Language Evolution

t; texting - it looks fascinating. But, when my son tried to give me an > example (granted, texting is almost allien to him too, since he's 28 > ), it left me totally baffled. All I'd want to learn how to text is: > duh? What is texting? Weronika -- Weronika Patena Stanford, C

Re: [lace-chat] fwd: It may save...

ful, these forward-to-everyone stories clog > the inboxes though... > :( > > -- > bye for now > Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) > Cdn. floral bobbins > www.woodhavenbobbins.com > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:

Re: [lace-chat] Re: .......And flying things

twits who spend the money without > thinking (and do everything else without thinking). Geoffrey just hates shopping, which means that he generally avoids buying stuff, but when he does have to buy something, he's likely to get the first one he sees and leave, while I tend to c

Re: [lace-chat] Re: decorating bobbins (for people who can't paint)

f learning a different type of lace. -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace-chat] Re: ......And flying things

d what not... We did all have lots of fights (organized for fun, not angry fights), which was fun too. And good job with the "chief's wife" part!! It really is continuously amazing how well we fit together, Tamara. Weronika -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http://vole.sta

Re: [lace-chat] .......And flying things

ld have to worry about a > child if she liked inflicting pain on herself! -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[lace-chat] I completely forgot to tell you all about my wedding!!

ake lace for a few months, and I'll look for a job after the summer. Life is good. Weronika -- Weronika Patena Stanford, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace-chat] French: was: [lace] Re: Query

e cauliflower ;-) Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Whither US?

actually, have the same "backlash" > result in the long run that the communist goverment's did; it's so > obviously *wrong*, people will start objecting "on principle", even if > they don't *quite* know what they're objecting to... That se

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Whither US?

On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:30:13PM -0500, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: > On Feb 3, 2005, at 1:01, Weronika Patena wrote: > > >This is the first thing I've ever heard that I could seriously apply > >the > >adjective "mind-boggling" to... > > > &g

Re: [lace-chat] Whither US?

PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[lace-chat] German Amazon purchase - need go-between

cost (I'm not sure what a good method of transfering small amounts of money between countries is - maybe PayPal?). Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line

[lace-chat] German Amazon order translation - help!

gewunschten Ort versandt werden. Sie konnen entweder die Versandadresse andern oder den Artikel aus Ihrer Bestellung loschen, indem Sie seine Stuckzahl auf 0 setzen und dann den Aktualisierungsbutton unten anklicken. What does that mean?? Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltec

Re: [lace-chat] measuring a child's coat

o you take them off all the time to play in the snow, like I did... Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace-chat] measuring a child's coat

- or some similar mess!!! > > Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) > > - Original Message - > From: "Weronika Patena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ruth Budge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 20

Re: [lace-chat] measuring a child's coat

v in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) > > Cdn. floral bobbins and New Christmas Bobbin > > www.woodhavenbobbins.com > > > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, w

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Lace and fairy tale

with swans... And the girl had to make the shirts out of nettles at night at a graveyard. And there were additional gruesome effects, I think, but I don't remember. The fact that those used to be stories for children tells you something about how life must have been then... Weronika --

Re: [lace-chat] Thanksgiving (was Christmas of old)

ay). Nevertheless, the gifts were dropped off under the tree, not > under a stable trough... :) Is that a custom anywhere?? Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace-chat] Fw: "The LITTLE Things"

ou delete this, it's okay: God's Love Is Not Dependent On E-Mail. > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Weronika Patena Calt

Re: [lace-chat] Black Squirrels

e-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace-chat] celebrations

something like that, and then asked me to marry him, he sure wouldn't get a yes. > He has been lay-bying the ring > for 6 months. I can't wait to see it. What's lay-bying? Weronika -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanfor

Re: [lace-chat] :-) I'm Older 'n Dirt

charge card. My parents belonged > to various shop's clubs - paid in a bit each week until there was enough > money on the card to pay for a pair of shoes or whatever the shop sold. > > > > I am Older 'n Dirt!! -- Weronika Patena Caltech

Re: [lace-chat] newspaper jokes

ot >married > >last month. Wife knows everything. > > please OH PLEASE don't say it's the best one . it's as sexist a joke as can be > ..Nothing personnal, Lynn . I'm tired of all those jokes that belittle women > especially when they're transmitted

Re: [lace-chat] What's the word?

word > but it was odd and my 'rememberer' works by association. -- Weronika Patena Caltech, Pasadena, CA, USA http://vole.stanford.edu/weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace-chat] RE: civics/citizenship

> I know that my kids recite the Pledge of Allegiance each day at school - > they're going into 3rd grade and 1st grade. They both had to learn the > Pledge in preschool, to recite at their Pre-K graduation. I'm not sure > that it makes you a better citizen, but it does make you aware of your > r

Re: [lace-chat] Civics/Citizen education

> It is illegal not to vote in Australian elections, if your name is on the > electoral role and is not crossed off at the election then you get fined. > Someone tried to publicise some way of making a stand against the compulsory > voting without the possibility of getting fined - they got fined

Re: [lace-chat] Civics/Citizen education

I lived in Poland up to the end of high school. We did have citizenship education, but nobody took it seriously - that was the class we used to play games under the table or do homework for other classes. It was pretty boring, too. I'm not sure how true that really is, but it seems to me that

Re: [lace-chat] sleeping in parks

Why was there a rule like that? Did taxis count as cars? Weronika On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 09:32:35PM +0100, Steph Peters wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:48:13 +1000 (EST), Helene wrote: > >There are Youth Hostels everywhere in Europe, Jane, and in most countries > >(except Britain), they don't m

Re: [lace-chat] Eyrope in a wheelchair

> Where do they proprose to wash? Presumably in public toilets - good luck to > them - I wouldn't. They'll need good street maps to show the location of > them. In Poole (and I think this is a case in a lot of towns), public > toilets have been closed because of the filthy state they get in, drug a

[lace-chat] oops

I think I just accidentally deleted an email from lace or lace-chat. So, if anyone just sent something they think I really should read, can you please resend it to me? Weronika To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, wr

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Mosquitoes

> "Louise Hume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > only the male mosquitoes sing, to attract the females. > >So... if you hear a mosquito "singing", it is a male and will not bite. > > I have read this, too, but apparently the mosquitoes in Michigan haven't. > I don't know if male and female mosqu

[lace-chat] Re: swivel windows

On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 05:59:02PM +1000, Helene Gannac wrote: > Weronika wrote: > >I'm not sure how Tamara's swivel windows work, but the ones we have at > >home in Poland can open normally (i.e. like doors), and if you twist the > >handle up they'll open at the top and stay attached at the bottom

[lace-chat] Re: Europe in a wheelchair

Well, she'll have a brother with her most of the time. And I'm not sure how dangerous sleeping in random places really is - I've done quite a lot in Warsaw, which is not supposed to be a very safe city, and I've never had any trouble. Plus, the stories are so much better Weronika On Mon, Jun 0

Re: [lace-chat] Catching up with my reading of lace-chat digests

> If anyone wants to see the house that we are going to live in for the next > phase of our lives, you can go to : > DH is wearing a blue shirt in the 3rd photo on the History page. A few > things > that appeal to us about living in Estonia, are the simpler life

Re: [lace-chat] Re: This is for Real - humour

> Weronika, > The culture confuses ME, and I was born and raised here by very > non-international parents! I'm not sure whether I should be happy that my problem isn't abnormal, or unhappy because that means it'll probably never go away... > Except for The Lord of the Rings and Harry > Potter

Re: [lace-chat] :-)) Interesting exercise

Hmm. Narwhal? My spelling is probably wrong, but I'm pretty sure it starts with an N. Weronika On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 08:39:06AM +0100, Jean Nathan wrote: > I didn't get any further than thinking of a letter - I just couldn't think > of an animal that began with the letter N. > > I could onl

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Lives of the cat

> >>All I can remember is that a cat "always falls on 4 legs", ie lands > >>safely. In > >>extensio, that would mean that a cat never dies at all > > > >and a piece of buttered bread always lands butter side down. > > > >So if you strap a piece of bread, buttered side up, on a cat's back, > >and

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Insects meet their fate

Hmm. I don't have a flyswatter, but I use paper or such for flies, or just open the window and try to get them to leave. I deal with mosquitoes the same way you do. Especially effective when they're trying to get at you in bed at night and you don't want to get up and turn the light on. I'm not

Re: [lace-chat] Lives of the cat (was: seven)

I have a vague recollection that 9 is the right number, but I don't remember any particular saying associated with it. Weronika On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 09:15:03PM -0400, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: > On Jun 3, 2004, at 19:58, Weronika Patena wrote: > > >I think it's nine

[lace-chat] friend going to Europe

Hi, everyone! A friend of mine at Caltech is planning to go to Europe over the summer, but doesn't know where she should go and where she can afford going. Since you live all over the world and probably even go to Europe for lace events, I thought you might know. So she's planning to travel around

Re: [lace-chat] The culture shock

Ouch. Ah well, I'm sure I'll live, and Alaska is just the greatest place on Earth anyway (and that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it's where my boyfriend comes from ). Weronika On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 11:15:12PM +0200, dominique wrote: > Hi weronika` > > i'm ready to bet there

Re: [lace-chat] windows

> Tamara, obviously, you don't have many mosquitoes or flies in your part > of the country!! You can't put mosquito screens up with swivel windows. I > know the ones you mean, my parents have them in Provence, and I love > them, but if I had them in Melbourne, we'd be invaded by flies during the

Re: [lace] Re: [lace-chat] The culture shock

> Everybody gets confused over whether 12:00 is ante meridian or post > meridian. That's a relief - it's not just me being a confused foreigner... > Sensible people say that the time one minute after 11:59 AM is "twelve > noon", and the time one minute after 11:59 PM is "twelve midnight". Sou

Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] seven

I think it's nine in Poland... Weronika > > Carolina wrote: > > >We, here in Spain it is very common to hear that "somebody has 7 lives > > >as cats". It is said, referring to people who has survived to a > > >dangerous situation. > > > > Carolina, the English must like cats more than the Spania

Re: [lace-chat] The culture shock

> In Michigan (very recently "wet, rainy Michigan), if you didn't have window > screens, you'd be eaten alive at night by mosquitoes. Even with the > screens, sometimes the mosquito-whining from outside the screens drives me > crazy, and if one of the little devils has sneaked into the house, into

Re: [lace-chat] Weronika's Matlab

> > (Also, my Matlab program just returned "out of > > memory", arrgh) > > Hi, Weronika - > > "Programming's like hitting your head on a brick wall - lovely when it > stops!" . Actually programming isn't that bad, I just wish I had someone to debug it for me! Plus, I spent most of last summe

Re: [lace-chat] The culture shock

> I promise -- cross my heart -- never to do this again, Ah yes. Please complain to me freely if I start writing about something uninteresting or otherwise unsuitable. I am, according to my friends, clueless . In fact, I could just send this whole email privately to Tamara, but since I already

Re: [lace-chat] :) Fwd: Californians

> 1.Your co-worker has 8 body piercings and none are visible. Ah yes. The tongue piercings just keep surprising me. > 2.You take a bus and you are shocked at two people carrying on a > conversation in English. Yep. And I don't have a car... > 4.You can't remember.is pot ill

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Tax Freedom Days

> >I gave up my old gas guzzler for an economy fuel model 6 years ago. > > Yes, but... Here, you buy something that doesn't play merry hell with > gas consumption, you're buying a *foreign* car... You're not *just* > unpatriotic (by saving money on the basic price as well as > maintenance); you

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Tax Free Days

> Then everyone pays a flat 12.5% on everything one buys. i.e. a goods and > services tax. that is generally calculated in the price displayed. You > very rarely see any signage that says "plus GST", thankfully. Ah, yes, another one of the things I can't stand in the US... When I was a freshm

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Tax Feedom Day

> the rationale behind petrol taxes is they will force us onto public > transport but efficient, clean and safe transport systems are not in place. Same here. I miss Polish busses and trains *so much*!! The bus stops not only tell you which buses stop there and when, they even tell you the wh

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Arrangement of dates

> >>And the arrangement of dates? Don't even get me started...Where's the > >>logic of having "month, day, year" sequence??? > > > >Only the U.S. does that, the rest of us do day, month, year. > > I have a strong suspicion -- Weronika? -- that Poland is now aping the > custom (along with many ot

Re: [lace-chat] Language and culture (was: This is for Real - humour)

> And on the matter of cultural differences... Quite apart from the fact > that an American "window" is still not a "proper" window to me (the > sash-horror ), What's wrong with the windows? There's plenty wrong with the windows around where I live, but I didn't know it was a common American t

Re: [lace-chat] Re: This is for Real - humour

> Weronika, the problem of "getting lost" in conversation doesn't only occur when > moving to a country with a different language! I'm sure it doesn't. I'm fine with most of the language, it's just the culture that confuses me. Especially when people my age start talking about music and movie

Re: [lace-chat] Re: This is for Real - humour

Hi everyone! I'm back from visiting my boyfriend for the long weekend, and I think I'll sit down and answer all of my accumulated Arachne email now. It's a great thing to do while waiting for my Matlab program to finish running and tell me what silly programming error I've made this time... > >Tru

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Arrangement of dates

On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 09:19:06AM -0700, Lorri Ferguson wrote: > > I have a strong suspicion -- Weronika? -- that Poland is now aping the > > custom (along with many others). I've never heard the month/day/year version before coming to the US, so no. > > Sometime after I left, the month began

Re: [lace-chat] Re: This is for Real - humour

> >! > >This is really horrible! I always thought this sort of thing was over > >earlier than the 60's... Tamara, was it like this in Poland too? > > Nope, and I doubt it had been like this in Poland even in 1860's... :) I thought so. Good... > And the post WWII communist rule only streng

Re: [lace-chat] Re: evacuation

I spent a summer in Israel (mostly Haifa) a few years ago, and there was a big bomb scare - it was an organized scientific workshop sort of thing, and for the last week they didn't let us off campus at all! I got the habit of crossing the street whenever I see anything without an obvious owner.

Re: [lace-chat] This is for Real - humour

! This is really horrible! I always thought this sort of thing was over earlier than the 60's... Tamara, was it like this in Poland too? Weronika On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 02:23:46AM +1000, David Collyer wrote: > GOOD GRIEF ! > 'Lay back and think of England' > This is an actual extract

Re: Fwd: [lace-chat] greetings on Memorial Day, too

Isn't Memorial Day next Monday? Weronika On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 11:18:07AM -0600, Vasna Zago wrote: > >Bev said: > >Hi everyone, and to my American buddies - may you all have a pleasant day. > >I don't know if "Happy" is appropriate as it is to honour the war dead. > >What are some traditions re

[lace-chat] Freeway Lace Guild meeting

Hi, Last Saturday (i.e. the one before yesterday - I'm never sure what "last" and "next" mean in English) I went to the Freeway Lace Guild Meeting. I had lots of fun - thanks for everyone who was there and is on arachne! I started a bookmark, and spent exactly all of my money on a new pillow, to

Re: [lace-chat] :)? Fwd: fundraising

That is really scary... Although, when I think of it, it might be the result of the law that where political parties get their money from must be public (I think there's a law like that, although I'm not sure, maybe I'm getting my countries confused again ). In which case it seems like pretty ann

Re: [lace-chat] The "peculiar" languages

> >That's very interesting. Even though it doesn't use spaces, Japanese > >does > >have a pretty clear concept of a word - or maybe they just made it up > >to > >teach to foreigners ;-) > > Don't know about that... But I do remember that my students (I taught > ESL to some Japanese girls, for

Re: [lace-chat] Eats, Shoots and Leaves

> I learnt to speak then read and write a bit of Thai nearly 20 years ago. > Thai has alphabetical characters - 70 odd of them - not the Japanese picture > representations of ideas. Actually, Japanese has two different syllabic alphabets with about 50 characters, plus thousands of "kanji" (the r

Re: [lace-chat] Eats, Shoots and Leaves

Hi! > One question was about the history of punctuation and > she said it came from musical notation and was first used in > Greek plays. They had marks to tell the actor when to take a > deep breath before a long speech (or a medium or small > breath). Interesting. I never wondered about pun

Re: [lace-chat] Re: :) Fwd: proof that girls are evil (fwd)

long (and that despite actually being a biology major - see what Caltech does to you? ). Sorry. Weronika On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 12:28:32AM -0700, Joy Beeson wrote: > At 05:53 PM 5/18/04 -0700, Weronika Patena wrote: > > >Actually in math "and" is "times" and "

Re: [lace-chat] Re: :) Fwd: proof that girls are evil (fwd)

> >Actually in math "and" is "times" and "or" is "plus". > > In my school days (40+ yrs ago), "and" was +, "times" was x, and "or", > being very indefinite, belonged not to mathemathics, but to philosophy > (and to history, and to daily budgeting ) Ah, right, I didn't go to school in the US, so

Re: [lace-chat] Re: :) Fwd: proof that girls are evil (fwd)

nd "or" is "plus". > >The quote 'Money is the root of all evil' is incorrect, if that helps. > >The > >actual quote says that 'the love of money is the root of all evil' I don't know, I always heard the version without "love"

Re: [lace-chat] :) Fwd: proof that girls are evil (fwd)

Not refutable, other than the "absolute value" comment someone already added on the same page. Which, by the way, means that either girls = evil or girls = -evil, so it's not that bad Weronika On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 12:30:25AM -0400, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: > Math's not my strong point, so I'm

[lace-chat] how my roommate thinks lace is made...

Hi! I just had the greatest conversation with my roommate. She finally got curious enough about what I was doing to come and ask, so I told her I was making lace. And she said: "Ah, so that's how you make lace!" We've all heard this one, I'm sure. But then she said: "I always thought you just

Re: [lace-chat] Re: Nancy Drew books

When I was a kid in Poland, we didn't have TV for a long time, and even now only 3 channels, so I never watched much - read insane lots of books instead (I had to hide from my mom because it was bad for my eyes). I really hope my children will read... Actually I probably won't even want a TV in t

Re: [lace-chat] Thank You Debbie Mouzon!!!

More beginner's questions: what are Secret Pals? Weronika On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 09:15:25AM -0700, Shirlee Hill wrote: > Debbie Mouzon was my Secret Pal! > > Thank you, Debbie, for being such a great pal! Looks like we have quite a few > things in common other than lacing. I, too, am 50 ye