Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]

2012-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
John Cowan writes: > Jim Jagielski scripsit: > > > I see no difference between the statements "We can't approve this > > because it doesn't address patents" and "We can't approve this > > because it doesn't address the US export laws." > > Patently, because a patent owner can opt out of en

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]

2012-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
Rick Moen writes: > its mission to ensure that OSI Certified licences really convey the To be clear, that would be "OSI Approved" licenses. It turns out -- and Bruce can hardly be blamed for not having a clue, because we didn't either -- that Certification has some pretty struct requirements unde

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]

2012-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
Removing the CC's again. Alexander, you have twice been barred from license-discuss because of your repetitve arguments which do not address points already made by other people. I am no longer on the OSI board nor the OSI postmaster, but I will be happy to explain the situation to the current OSI b

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]

2012-03-10 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: [...] > Now, in this particular case, Mr. Moen has pointed to a web page of > his which addresses Dr. Bernstein's arguments. There is NO POINT in > copying from Dr. Bernstein's web page arguments which have already > been replied-to. You should l

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]

2012-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
CC removed again. We're not reviewing a license anymore since CC0 has been withdrawn. We're either wanking, or preparing an information base for the patent policy committe. Alexander Terekhov writes: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: > [...] > > Now, in this particular case

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]

2012-03-10 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: [...] >  > and I can tell you that anyone with even a little skill to perform >  > research can find out that Mr. Moen is at best deeply mistaken. > > In what way? Please be specific about which bits of research refute > which of Mr. Moen's claim

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]

2012-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
Alexander Terekhov writes: > May I suggest that you finally do your own research, Mr. Nelson? You're the one who wants to convince me of something. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]

2012-03-10 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > Alexander Terekhov writes: >  > May I suggest that you finally do your own research, Mr. Nelson? > > You're the one who wants to convince me of something. How about this (see below), Mr. Nelson? http://unlicense.org/ Unlicense Yourself: Set

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]

2012-03-10 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Russ Nelson (nel...@crynwr.com): [to the Terekhov person:] > If you think Mr. Moen has failed to address some portion of > Dr. Bernstein's argument, then you should say that. More to the point, he can lay every bit of it out on a Web page somewhere. I can even recommend software he coul

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] CC0 incompliant with OSD on patents, [was: MXM compared to CC0 ]

2012-03-10 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Russ Nelson (nel...@crynwr.com): > Now, in this particular case, Mr. Moen has pointed to a web page of > his which addresses Dr. Bernstein's arguments. FYI, for convenience, that bit has a specific HREF tag: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Licensing_and_Law/public-domain.html#djb I'd actually