Re: N810 is here

Am Donnerstag, 25. Oktober 2007 schrieben Sie: > Krischan Keitsch schrieb: > > Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb Ralph Angenendt: > >> John Rudd wrote: > >>> Kahlil Johnson wrote: > Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares > about AAC, give us OGG. > >>> >

Re: N810 is here

Krischan Keitsch schrieb: > Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb Ralph Angenendt: >> John Rudd wrote: >>> Kahlil Johnson wrote: Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares about AAC, give us OGG. >>> Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 15:07 +0200, Tilman Vogel a écrit : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Frederic Crozat schrieb: > > And to do that, we need "expected to work but doesn't work" ogg support > > package. And unfortunately, neither mogg or ogg-support packages are in

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat: > Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 12:11 +0200, Krischan Keitsch a écrit : > > Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat: > > > Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : > > > > So, there shouldn't be any need fo

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederic Crozat schrieb: > And to do that, we need "expected to work but doesn't work" ogg support > package. And unfortunately, neither mogg or ogg-support packages are in > this state for n800 (one lack schema and the other is not registering > the c

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 15:14 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : > Hi, > > ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: > >>> - mediaplayer not playing the file > >> I think the problem is here, unfortunately :( > >> > >> Developper documentation is a little too scarce about media player, > >> unfortunately.> .

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: >>> - mediaplayer not playing the file >> I think the problem is here, unfortunately :( >> >> Developper documentation is a little too scarce about media player, >> unfortunately.> . > > Unfortunately. Am I wrong when I identify the missing source of the media >

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 12:11 +0200, Krischan Keitsch a écrit : > Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat: > > Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : > > > So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these > > > things are documented

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat: > Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : > > So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these > > things are documented in upstream projects. There should still be > > a tutorial how to do these th

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : > So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these > things are documented in upstream projects. There should still be > a tutorial how to do these things though. Tutorial is already available in Maemo 3.x SDK

Re: N810 is here (touch screen)

ext Alan Williamson wrote: > Maybe a silly question, but is the N810 still a touch screen device? Yes. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: N810 is here (touch screen)

Maybe a silly question, but is the N810 still a touch screen device? -- Alan Williamson "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/ b: http://alan.blog-city.com/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailma

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: > Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieben Sie: >> ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: >>> Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebod

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieben Sie: > Hi, > > ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: > >> OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and > >> other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also >

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: >> OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and >> other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also >> this won't utilize the DSP). >> > I don't agree with o

Re: N810 is here

Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: > > OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and > other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also > this won't utilize the DSP). > I don't agree with ogg = nerd feature. Linux as an open and

Re: N810 is here -- whitout ogg support

Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb Steve Greenland: > According to John Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > And, no, it's not about "open and free". Since the developers in > > question are Nokia (since the comment was directed at the release of the > > N810 itself, and not a request for more 3rd

Re: N810 is here

Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb Ralph Angenendt: > John Rudd wrote: > > Kahlil Johnson wrote: > > > Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares > > > about AAC, give us OGG. > > > > Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even > > remotely care

Re: N810 is here

According to Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Vorbis support would be excellent (as would speex for voip and theora > for video) but I suspect for Nokia the majority of people that buy the > Tablets wouldn't know what any of them are let alone probably care. > Ultimately the continued developm

Re: N810 is here

On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 08:39:10PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > So when it comes down to it most of the required/hard parts of vorbis > support (and probably speex to as it too has fixed point DSP > implementations) are already there. It just needs some smart > programmers to bolt the required bi

Re: N810 is here

> > And, no, it's not about "open and free". Since the developers in > > question are Nokia (since the comment was directed at the release of the > > N810 itself, and not a request for more 3rd party development), it's > > about how much effort the developers need to put into supporting > > someth

Re: N810 is here

The radio was cut as it did not fit ... Same on the memory slots and the card type On 10/18/07, Gary Baribault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why the heck would they remove the FM Radio? > > And go down to 1 memory slot? I guess that one could be because of the > placement of the keyboard. > > It su

RE: N810 is here

Jonathan, thanks for the updates! Nick. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Greene Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:38 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: N810 is here Been meaning to reply back to this thread been hectic

Re: N810 is here

Why the heck would they remove the FM Radio? And go down to 1 memory slot? I guess that one could be because of the placement of the keyboard. It sure would be nice if we could charge from the USB and host unpowered on the USB. I assume that the hosting is a question of support and battery life.

Re: N810 is here

On 10/18/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ogg is not included for codec licensing issues... > Care to expand on this point? Which licensing issues? (from Xiph's FAQ for Vorbis -- http://www.vorbis.com/faq/#flic) What licensing applies to the Ogg Vorbis format? The Ogg Vor

Re: N810 is here

Dev program - http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1192708879.html On 10/17/07, Sergey Udaltsov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Will there be developer's device program, like for n800? > > Cheers, > > Sergey > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-us

Re: N810 is here

Been meaning to reply back to this thread been hectic here. My device is pre-release and has a slip case which I believe will be included. Ogg is not included for codec licensing issues... Form factor is excellent as is the build and it will apparently get a bit better over the course of th

Re: N810 is here

According to John Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > And, no, it's not about "open and free". Since the developers in > question are Nokia (since the comment was directed at the release of the > N810 itself, and not a request for more 3rd party development), it's > about how much effort the developer

Re: N810 is here

On 10/18/07, John Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ralph Angenendt wrote: > > John Rudd wrote: > >> Kahlil Johnson wrote: > >>> Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares > >>> about AAC, give us OGG. > >> Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even

Re: N810 is here

Ralph Angenendt wrote: > John Rudd wrote: >> Kahlil Johnson wrote: >>> Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares >>> about AAC, give us OGG. >> Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even >> remotely care about OGG? > > How weird. I have no AAC fil

Re: N810 is here

Krischan Keitsch wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb John Rudd: >> Kahlil Johnson wrote: >>> Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares >>> about AAC, give us OGG. >> Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even >> remotely care about OGG?

Re: N810 is here

John Rudd wrote: > Kahlil Johnson wrote: > > Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares > > about AAC, give us OGG. > > Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even > remotely care about OGG? How weird. I have no AAC files but a big bunch of ogg fil

Re: N810 is here

Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb John Rudd: > Kahlil Johnson wrote: > > Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares > > about AAC, give us OGG. > > Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even > remotely care about OGG? > > Or is this one of thos

Re: N810 is here

Can the n810 be powered by usb? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: N810 is here

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:19:36PM +0100, Alan Williamson wrote: > http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/ > -- Can it listen to a (self-powered) USB keyboard? -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://li

Re: N810 is here

Kahlil Johnson wrote: > Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares > about AAC, give us OGG. Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even remotely care about OGG? Or is this one of those "you absolutely need it for interesting content in Europe, b

Re: N810 is here

All, kidding aside, I have to say that, as I would expect from Nokia, if the product ,once launched, "meets or exceeds spec", then Nokia has indeed proven itself as a "fast learning organization" with this product by a) adding some key functional capabilities that those on this list have

Re: N810 is here: 45hrs!?!?

On Oct 17, 2007, at 6:33 PM, David Leinbach wrote: > I think the 45 hours simply refers to how much music they think you > should be able to fit on the built-in memory (notice it says "No Wi- > Fi connection on your journey? No need, the Nokia N810 offers up to > 45 hours of music playback..

Re: N810 is here: 45hrs!?!?

I think the 45 hours simply refers to how much music they think you should be able to fit on the built-in memory (notice it says "No Wi-Fi connection on your journey? No need, the Nokia N810 offers up to 45 hours of music playback..."). On 10/17/07, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > r

Re: N810 is here: 45hrs!?!?

Alan Williamson wrote: > read this on http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1160660 > > "No need, the Nokia N810 offers up to 45 hours of music playback" > > how on earth are they getting that!??!?! My N800 can barely last 8hrs > on the current battery; so what improves has gone here i wonder > >

Re: N810 is here: 45hrs!?!?

read this on http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1160660 "No need, the Nokia N810 offers up to 45 hours of music playback" how on earth are they getting that!??!?! My N800 can barely last 8hrs on the current battery; so what improves has gone here i wonder -- Alan Williamson "a wiki -and-

Re: N810 is here

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Collin R. Mulliner schrieb: >> Did they leave the FM radio in? I really like that feature on my n800? >> No OGG is just plain weird, yup. > > OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and > other companies) just don't care. Ma

Re: N810 is here

> Did they leave the FM radio in? I really like that feature on my n800? > No OGG is just plain weird, yup. OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also this won't utilize the DSP). -- Collin R. Mu

Re: N810 is here

Now - Carrying case!, That one I need too. Are there any Vegan ( non - leather carrying cases ) for N800 ? Thats one thing I need very bad :(. Thanks Rajesh Acadia Secure Networks wrote: Jonathan, who cares about the keyboardis the Nokia carrying case for the 810 availab

Re: N810 is here

Will there be developer's device program, like for n800? Cheers, Sergey ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: N810 is here

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 14:42 -0500, Kahlil Johnson wrote: > Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares > about AAC, give us OGG. Did they leave the FM radio in? I really like that feature on my n800? No OGG is just plain weird, yup. ___

Re: N810 is here

Jonathan, who cares about the keyboardis the Nokia carrying case for the 810 available (and not just in cyberspace)? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service

Re: N810 is here

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 02:42:17PM -0500, Kahlil Johnson wrote: > Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares > about AAC, give us OGG. I've heard rumours are Nokia won't ever include ogg support because they're scared of the (supposedly nonexistent) patents (and that after

Re: N810 is here

Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares about AAC, give us OGG. On 10/17/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > no idea guys ... a least a month away. > > > On 10/17/07, Daniel M German <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Jonathan> it's in my pocket! a few vide

Re: N810 is here

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:19:36PM +0100, Alan Williamson wrote: > http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/ Slight inaccuracies: 256MB ROM is really the same 256MB flash that you use to install apps; the USB connector is micro USB, slightly smaller than mini USB. Also it doesn

Re: N810 is here

no idea guys ... a least a month away. On 10/17/07, Daniel M German <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jonathan> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp and > maemoapps.com as well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on > Jonathan> flickr - user atmasphere > > Any idea when/ho

Re: N810 is here

Jonathan> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp and maemoapps.com as well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on Jonathan> flickr - user atmasphere Any idea when/how I can get one (I am in Canada)? --daniel Jonathan> On 10/17/07, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: N810 is here

wen the device arrives in final form it should be there as well. 4-5 weeks... On 10/17/07, Laurent MARTIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Subject: N810 is here > > ... but where is ITOS2008?! I definitely want to install it on my *old* > N800... > -- > *Laurent*, Nantes (FR) - *http://blog.lmartin

Re: N810 is here

and?!?!!?! :@) whats it like? what has it that the N800 has been begging for? (execpt the keyboard that is!) and when will it available in Europe? Jonathan Greene wrote: > it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp > and maemoapps.com

Re: N810 is here

Subject: N810 is here ... but where is ITOS2008?! I definitely want to install it on my *old* N800... -- Laurent, Nantes (FR) - http://blog.lmartin.fr Apple MacBook Pro 15" Nokia Internet Tablet N800 Palm Treo 650 (unlocked GSM) ___ maemo-users mail

Re: N810 is here

it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp and maemoapps.comas well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on flickr - user atmasphere On 10/17/07, Alan Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/ > -- > Alan Williamson >