Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
If the North pole melted and all ice bergs completely, sea level raise would be exactly ZERO. South pole is different. I lived on the Texas Gulf coast from 1969 to 1973 and the "sea level" there rose several feet during that brief time. Global warming? Nope. All caused by land subsidence f

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
New sport. Battle of the Drones. Tiny rockets. Heavy betting. Successor to cockfights. Prime time TV. Gerry > .22 with bird shot….. Fred Moir wrote: > > 12 gauge? > >>> To control drones in the neighborhood, designate them as skeet? > >>> YMMV > >>> > >>> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

Re: [MBZ] No More AMEX @ Costco

2015-02-13 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
I agree. Never saw the purpose of those stores. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: >> Please send a link. This is TERRIBLE news. > > It was on PBS TV last night. Makes no difference to me. I've never set foot > in one. No need to buy cases

Re: [MBZ] NAPA half off

2015-02-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:48:02 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > NAPA is advertising here 50% off this weekend. Includes batteries. > > Anybody else heard this in your area? Our store is closed on Saturday and Sunday ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the week

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
NO BROKEN GLASS!! TIRES ARE ALL ROUND!! ENGINE RUNS!! CAR MOVES WHEN THE PEDAL IS PRESSED DOWN!!! ONE IDIOT OWNER!! On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:57 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/4872763799.html > > M117 that needs no attention until it clocks 700k miles!!

[MBZ] CL idiot of the week

2015-02-13 Thread clay via Mercedes
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/4872763799.html M117 that needs no attention until it clocks 700k miles! clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save

[MBZ] NAPA half off

2015-02-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
NAPA is advertising here 50% off this weekend. Includes batteries. Anybody else heard this in your area? May need to acquire a battery... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: 240D intrigues me!

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You need to pay your overdue MA parking tickets. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:15 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: dsereta...@yahoo.com > > Date: February 13, 2015 at 10:11:02 PM EST > > To: Dwight Giles

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The PR problem with pipelines is that every week or two one of them bursts or leaks copious amounts of oil, almosat always into a pristine waterway such as the Yellowstone River. Of course, the NEW pipelines will NEVER have an accident because of their fail-safe technology. Didn't they say the sa

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rising fuel prices

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I am now On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 6:52 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Isn't anyone aware that there is a nationwide refinery workers strike in > progress, and that due to disruptions in the supply routes, perceived > shortages, and profit taking, increased gas

[MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: 240D intrigues me!

2015-02-13 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: dsereta...@yahoo.com > Date: February 13, 2015 at 10:11:02 PM EST > To: Dwight Giles > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 240D intrigues me! > > If the car didn't make the trip then a bad head/ headgasket issue would be > more plausible but a 140 mil

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread clay via Mercedes
Used to be the current Carolina lowlands were 150 miles from the ocean. Very populated lands with hundreds of villages are now underwater. Did the natives think they caused the seas to sweep into their lands because they had done some ignoble thing to the environment? What did the people in

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread clay via Mercedes
The Fraser Valley line is currently held up with First Nations concerns. It will be resolved through action from Alberta and BC. The Keystone issue involves leases for land owners, much as those given for wind farms and other energy siting. The oil flows to the ports on the Gulf and those loc

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 240D intrigues me!

2015-02-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Dimitri- maybe time to face it- the car is possessed. Actuslly i am stumped too. At least you are back in MA so you can get it inspected. On Feb 13, 2015 8:04 PM, "dseretakis--- via Mercedes" wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: dsereta...@yahoo.com > > Date:

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread clay via Mercedes
Tar sands are going to be mined. At the moment, the sands are on the high end of the cost scale, but in time will become the most abundant oil source. The high prices the tar sand oil requires to extract provide a massive profit for the sweet crude that is being pumped. We can produce far mor

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread clay via Mercedes
Petro merchants wield more power than some over educated fool holding political office. Lame ducks have little power, and the current congress may be inclined to keep this issue alive longer than the quacker holds power. He was incapable of action for the past seven years on the project. Keep

Re: [MBZ] No More AMEX @ Costco

2015-02-13 Thread clay via Mercedes
AMEX has had an exclusive deal for years. The deal goes south in 2016 unless they re-up. You can use a debit card. Amex has taken a hit for this turn of events, since so much cash is generated by the costco agreement. Even with the reduced fee to process the payments, the money was massive.

[MBZ] Fwd: 240D intrigues me!

2015-02-13 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: dsereta...@yahoo.com > Date: February 13, 2015 at 7:54:25 PM EST > To: Randy Bennell > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me! > > Yeah I'll check out the coolant loss in the am. > I'm thinking about dumping some of that head gasket, head, b

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Max wrote: > The earth has never been static (in geology and in climate) and it never > will be. This is just the way it is. Man will adapt and survive, as he > has done so for millenia... Yes, but we have never become quite so zealous about doing something with sooo much of the mantle, never ha

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
--R wrote: > (who watches sea level rise and fall a coupla times a day, every day) > No Miami groundwater issues? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: > They are being funded by latte-guzzling liberals who want you to drive a > Prius. > Funny. I like. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Max wrote: > You were trained as a geologist I believe. We have all been trained in a common core tradition. Yet our politics, religion, family, age, IQ affect us differently so we arrive at pole opinions on these things. We are individuals that love freedom. Andrew can agree generally with AlGo

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rising fuel prices

2015-02-13 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Isn't anyone aware that there is a nationwide refinery workers strike in progress, and that due to disruptions in the supply routes, perceived shortages, and profit taking, increased gas and oil prices are probably temporary and will decline after the strike is over? http://www.bloomberg.com/n

Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

2015-02-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 13/02/2015 5:14 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: So as you all know, I replaced that bitch of a hose under the thermostat housing a few days ago. I drove around town for a few days, no leaks from the new hose, no overheating. There was however a small amount of coolant loss from the ru

Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oil cooler was replaced with an NOS one maybe 3 years ago. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mai

Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

2015-02-13 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
It's not bypassed or covered up. Would a plugged up oil cooler cause coolant temp to rise? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 13, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Or, if the oil cooler might be plugged up? > > RB > >> On 13/02/2015 5:28 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wr

Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

2015-02-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Or, if the oil cooler might be plugged up? RB On 13/02/2015 5:28 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Have you checked to see if the oil cooler has been bypassed, or if someone has put cardboard in front of it? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To sear

Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

2015-02-13 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Have you checked to see if the oil cooler has been bypassed, or if someone has put cardboard in front of it? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://

[MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

2015-02-13 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
So as you all know, I replaced that bitch of a hose under the thermostat housing a few days ago. I drove around town for a few days, no leaks from the new hose, no overheating. There was however a small amount of coolant loss from the rubber o ring that goes around the tstat and keeps the housin

Re: [MBZ] OT - Surprising story about Massachusetts solar energy jobs

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Mostly for monitoring, like for emissions and erosion but other reasons too, including: LooksPreventing tree growth - this one is huge, trees will break the clay cap and allow water to penetrate which would allow the contents outFire preventionand of course more I can't think of right now. My Da

[MBZ] espresso machine vibrator

2015-02-13 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
I don't think the pumps run on a rheostat here's a rebuild tutorial http://www.instructables.com/id/Rebuilding-an-ULKA-Vibratory-Pump-Espresso-machin/ i've never had luck at repairing them here's another set of links http://ulkapumprepair.blogspot.com/ the ulna is the one in the machines i us

Re: [MBZ] OT - Surprising story about Massachusetts solar energy jobs

2015-02-13 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Why would grass growing on a landfill need to be cut? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On February 13, 2015 10:29:59 AM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >Cripes we've got solar all over the dang place. One of the really smart >moves (I think anyway) is covering old landfills

[MBZ] OT: Drones in Singapore restaurant

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Drones delivering drinks in a crowded restaurant? It’s not as crazy as it sounds.

Re: [MBZ] Car for poosy

2015-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
238hp Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 13, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > What sort of power does a 560 put out? > Maybe Andrew should go and test drive a car with a modern V8? > That old diesel wagon produces about 125 HP - or it did when it was new > anyway. > > RB

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
How far away is the operator likely to be? Just hunt him down and use a super soaker on him. That should adjust his flying technique somewhat. Of course, you folks down south should be ready to shoot back with something a bit more powerful if the fellow happens to be armed. RB On 13/02/2015 1:

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I think one of those compressed nets propelled by a sling shot would entangle and bring down to earth any small to medium sized drone. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > All of this requires you to be watching and waiting for them. What you > really need is an automati

Re: [MBZ] Car for poosy

2015-02-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
What sort of power does a 560 put out? Maybe Andrew should go and test drive a car with a modern V8? That old diesel wagon produces about 125 HP - or it did when it was new anyway. RB On 13/02/2015 12:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I am too addicted to the visceral pleasure of

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
All of this requires you to be watching and waiting for them. What you really need is an automatic air defense system . . . On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You could become a Falconer. > > RB > > > On 13/02/2015 12:04 PM, Rich Thomas v

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
You could become a Falconer. RB On 13/02/2015 12:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I could build a little suicide drone to home in on it and smash into it. Or a big one with a net to catch it and bring it home. --R On 2/13/15 12:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Electronic jamming wo

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
IIRC, the FCC regs for the un-licensed spectrum require that the devices accept interference, but are prohibited from interfering with licensed services. I'm not sure about unlicensed devices interfering with other unlicensed devices. I think these things use digital codes to keep from cross-contro

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
AV gas stores much longer than auto gas, but I don't know why. That is one of the prime issues with using auto gas in aircraft - some don't get flown all that often. I add Stabil to every barrel (55 gal.) that I purchase, just in case something happens, and I don't get to burn it out of the aircraf

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The farther out of the city you are the more places you have to put the snow. We're nowhere near "in trouble" out here in the hinterland. The only effect another foot (it won't be 18" except maybe on the north shore where Fred lives) on me is that we'll pull the edges into the center of the snow

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Hey Curt and all the other Bay Staters. I hear there is ANOTHER blizzard hitting you guys today with ANOTHER 18" of the white stuff. Do the suburbs and outlying towns hit by the snowstorms have snow melters such as the ones used in Boston? if not, with a cold wave on its way for at least another

Re: [MBZ] Car for poosy

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I am too addicted to the visceral pleasure of driving two turbodiesel station wagons to be the least bit interested in a plain vanilla V8 gasoline engine powered sedan. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And me > > -Original Message--

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A month or two should be no problem. I add 1oz Seafoam gas additive to every gallon of gas I buy for the snowmobile just in case I forget about it. The snowmobiles sit all summer, April to November at least and start in the fall although they run a lot better after the fresh gas hits the carb. I

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Curt, et al.Close enough! Just need permission. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:01:12 + > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Drones > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sadly a shotgun only has an effective range of around 30 yards so you'll only

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Pretty sure the ECPA, or maybe even existing FCC regs, prohibits all deliberate interference. I like the idea of RC 'hawks'. Drones are slow-moving, at least the current crop of spy-cams, so just foul them out of the air. Snap-release yarn strands sounds good. And actively discourage trespasse

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I could build a little suicide drone to home in on it and smash into it. Or a big one with a net to catch it and bring it home. --R On 2/13/15 12:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Electronic jamming would be much more effective, and have longer range.. Likely, could cause loss of control and

Re: [MBZ] Car for poosy

2015-02-13 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
And me -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 4:26 AM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car for poosy Maybe. Tell me more. Dan > On Feb 12, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > >> No thanks. I want a long

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 13/02/2015 11:38 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Good question. There are some materials that enhance the storage of gasoline, such as Stabil, but even that doesn't give gasoline the staying power of diesel. Gasoline is a more VOC [Volatile Organic Compound] and the "Volatile" components gas

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Electronic jamming would be much more effective, and have longer range.. Likely, could cause loss of control and crash of drone.. Win/win ... for the person being targeted for illegal spying. At the moment, there is no restriction on ownership of jamming devices. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:01 AM,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Curt wrote: >Whats causing glaciers to recede? >Even if temperature data is being >faked >the pictures of big lakes >where there used to be glaciers >doesn't lie.. You asked... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-big

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Have you ever shot ANYTHING with .22 birdshot? Its teeny and you only get like 1/8 oz. I have however the perfect rifle for .22 birdshot, a Daisy bolt action repeater my dad gave me for my 12th birthday. Its a terrible plastic gun but for some reason it patters birdshot perfectly. At 20 feet its

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sadly a shotgun only has an effective range of around 30 yards so you'll only get the low flying ones... -Curt From: Fred Moir via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Drones 12 gauge? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Good question. There are some materials that enhance the storage of gasoline, such as Stabil, but even that doesn't give gasoline the staying power of diesel. Gasoline is a more VOC [Volatile Organic Compound] and the "Volatile" components gas off in evaporation, or degrade to less volatile by re

Re: [MBZ] OT - Surprising story about Massachusetts solar energy jobs

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its sad to see the energy companies be so short sighted but of course we've seen it time and time again. The car destroyed the wagon business and none of the wagon makers made the leap. TV is getting destroyed by the internet it refuses to embrace, same with newspapers although that is slowly sl

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎G Mann wrote: >OTOH.. it does feel comforting to >fill up at the pumps and spend >1/2 what I >had been. I know diesel fuel will store indefinitely, but is there any way to store gasoline for more than a month or two, without it going bad? Some of us do have room.   Rick Sent from my BlackBerry

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
A very strong point in this discussion is the absolute strangle hold EPA has on all new refinery development. Quickly, as oil supply increases, we reach a production capacity limit. Just a little research will reveal that there has been no new refinery construction allowed by EPA in the past 25 ye

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I don't think there are big problems with expanding in TX, for chemicals anyway. Freeport area has the largest chemical plant in the world, and the beach down there, right next to it, is very nice. I seem to recall some issues with the economics of refining fuels, not sure about the enviro as

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
.22 with bird shot….. > On Feb 13, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > > > 12 gauge? > > Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > >> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:33:30 -0600 >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Drones >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
12 gauge? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:33:30 -0600 > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Drones > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > >To control drones in the neighborhood, designate them as skeet? > >YMMV > > > >Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel prefer

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yeah, acid rain is a TERRIBLE example. We cleaned up emissions and the rain pH rose. We still have issues with nitrates and mercury but overall, air quality has definitely improved as a result of Clean Air Act regulations. Even the Boehner bunch acknowledge this On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:44 AM

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I love the idea of drones spying on industrial CAFO feed lots and cruise ships that are polluting like crazy into rivers and the oceans but get away with it. Go get 'em! On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > To control drones in the neighbo

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Totally reasonable. You're beginning to sound like a Big Government loving Liberal. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I like this idea: use tariffs to stabilize the price of domestic oil at > $65/barrel or so. This will provide much n

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Acid rain killed areas, cleaned up air quality standards have helped. That wasn't a "fad" but since its lessened it gets a lot less airplay, theres a new boogieman today. It is as it has always been and shall always be. -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes To: Andrew Strasfogel ; Merced

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I like this idea: use tariffs to stabilize the price of domestic oil at $65/barrel or so. This will provide much needed income to our federal government, keep the oil price stable and at a reasonable level so that our domestic oil investment and production can continue, we can stop the subsidies t

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Where I used to live in Italy (just north of Naples), the ground elevation could change by 5 or 10 feet in a matter of months, due to the volcanic activity so close to the surface. Our command had to have a "Continuity of Operations Plan" to relocate in the event of a volcanic eruption. The eart

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
To give rise to new jobs wouldn't those refineries have to be expanded? Don't they always complain that expansion is basically impossible under enviro laws? If the same places are refining the same amount of oil just that the oil comes from a different source then thats no growth... -Curt F

Re: [MBZ] OT - Surprising story about Massachusetts solar energy jobs

2015-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Now if we could only get the lobbyists and politicians in Florida to back off on solar. They've got FP&L and Duke Energy so deep in their pockets we're putting an amendment to the state constitution up in the next election so we can get around them... And they call it the "Sunshine State"? Dan

Re: [MBZ] OT - Surprising story about Massachusetts solar energy jobs

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Cripes we've got solar all over the dang place. One of the really smart moves (I think anyway) is covering old landfills with 'em. Saves you having to cut the grass off the landfill and makes power, win win. Loads of people are putting panels on their houses, good incentives for it. Supposedly h

Re: [MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
To control drones in the neighborhood, designate them as skeet? YMMV Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com An RC F4 (or take your pick) oughta be able to control them. More retro types could use a RC stearman trailing a str

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Yeahbut, they drained the Everglades decades ago... Regardless living in such a low area is clearly not a smart idea... -Curt From: Max Dillon via Mercedes To: Andrew Strasfogel ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warm

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Where I used to live in Italy (just north of Naples), the ground elevation could change by 5 or 10 feet in a matter of months, due to the volcanic activity so close to the surface. Our command had to have a "Continuity of Operations Plan" to relocate in the event of a volcanic eruption. The earth

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Andrew, So you've already done the research yourself on these areas, or are you accepting the claims by the alarmists at face value? How much have the seas risen? Do you remember the hysteria about acid rain back in the 80's? Or the "Population Bomb" back in the 70's? This is just the current

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The whole area where we lived in Houston had sunk by 9ft (it might have been more, I forget) over the last 75 years due to groundwater extraction. The clay soil expands when wet (which means it shrinks when it dries, which means your foundations need to be watered!). I thought that was pretty

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I believe (though I could be wrong) that most of it would be refined into chemicals/fuels on the TX coast where the big refineries and chemical plants are, thus adding value and jobs and all that. It would not be exported "as is." I htink the stuff that is now being railroaded is being refine

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So in Patagonia the mountains there were under a km of ice back 10k years ago or so. Now the mountains are like 1.5km high, so the ice was 2.5km thick there (give or take). Absent paleolithic SUVs and CFPPs, what caused all that ice to melt? I have a sense that many peoples' resistance to th

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The whole argument about the tar sands oil being produced anyway is moot since oil prices have plunged. The only economical way to ship the gooey crude is via pipeline. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I don't see how this would benefit

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Meade, the only phenomenon that accounts for such disparate placess as Pacific islands, NYC, Boston, Miami and other coastal cities sinking into the sea is a rise in sea level. Are you seriously doubting that there is such a rise in sea level? On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel

[MBZ] OT - Surprising story about Massachusetts solar energy jobs

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Mass. the second-biggest employer for solar power - - - - - 0COMMENTS PRINT *By Jack Newsham*GLOBE CORRESPONDENT FEBRUARY 12,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Andrew, The article that I think Curt posted several days ago about experiencing "relentless inundation of coastal areas, such as Miami" (your words) included a key bit of information that perhaps you missed. When the everglades were drained, the elevation in the area dropped by seven feet. T

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Curt, you just don't get it. The same folks who faked the lunar landing photos have figured out a way to make it appear that the ice caps are melting and glaciers are receding. They are being funded by latte-guzzling liberals who want you to drive a Prius. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Curt

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Canada will sell it's oil.. EH. Either it will pipeline it to the USA gulf coast refinery, and create American jobs, or it will build a pipeline to Canadian west coast and sell the crude to China. Which China wants very badly. The oil that would come via Keystone pipeline, to USA, would likely be

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I don't see how this would benefit jobs. The number of permanent jobs it would create after construction is complete is less than 100, and that's been clearly documented. The oil would basically transport over the pipeline then go offshore. Not sure how much benefit that would be for us. I ag

Re: [MBZ] No More AMEX @ Costco

2015-02-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Please send a link. This is TERRIBLE news. It was on PBS TV last night. Makes no difference to me. I've never set foot in one. No need to buy cases of anything ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

[MBZ] OT Drones

2015-02-13 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
To control drones in the neighborhood, designate them as skeet? YMMV Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delive

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Whats causing glaciers to recede? Even if temperature data is being faked the pictures of big lakes where there used to be glaciers doesn't lie.. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: "arche...@embarqmail.com" ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:58 AM

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Canadians are going to produce the tar sands either way, and it will be exported. The pipeline would benefit American business/jobs. Pipelines are much safer than moving the oil by railroad, which is being done now and will continue, though if the pipeline were built Warren Buffett (FOO) would

Re: [MBZ] No More AMEX @ Costco

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yes, other than debit cards. It isn't clear when/if they will refse to accept AMEX cards... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So they only accept Amex no other cards? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Dan Pe

Re: [MBZ] OT & OGW: Creating a drone 'no fly zone' over your home

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Remarkable. This is something that could garner bipartisan support. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > In case anyone is interested. > > > Craig > > > > http://video.foxnews.com/v/4049474131001/creating-a-drone-no-fly-zone-over-your-home/?#sp=show-clips > > https://ww

Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So if the polar ice cap isn't melting, what do you think has caused the worldwide rise in sea level? The relentless inundation of coastal areas, such as Miami, NYC, Boston and other low lying metropoli? Trick photography? Conspiracy by the renewable energy cartel? On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:17 A

Re: [MBZ] OT Baseball

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That's OK - I got my fix and will move on now. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:32 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Why would you want to talk about men playing a boy's game? Surely you have > a Benz to polish or something else to do with your time . . . > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Curly McLa

Re: [MBZ] OT: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why would I want to live in a place where people don't know the difference between climate and weather? On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:03 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'll add a simple tidbit to this discussion. When I was in school many > decades ago, the prevaili

Re: [MBZ] No More AMEX @ Costco

2015-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So they only accept Amex no other cards? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > http://www.wsj.com/articles/american-express-to-lose-costco-exclusivity-1423746408 > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 13, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote

Re: [MBZ] OT - Rising fuel prices

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So where does "Curly" hang out - a place 100 percent free of Californaians and New Yorkers? On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Max sez: Ha ha ha ha. >> >> Ya'll should move down here, enjoy our global warming and low taxes, >> abundant job

Re: [MBZ] OT: Where to dump the snow in Boston? Same place as British tea!

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Theier links are what you should be reading, once you pull your head out of the sand. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well, I didn't actually *see* them write a check but... >> >> Plenty of citations here - take your pick. >> >> http://

Re: [MBZ] Best oil trader says oil prices may plunge some more

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
We need it like a hole in the head. Canada needs it to get their tar sands oil to world markets. Recovering that oil requires huge amounts of greenhouse gas emitting energy to sweat it out of the matrix. Obama will veto the legislation but even if he didn't, there are also sticky legal issues in

Re: [MBZ] OT: Friday Funny, or "Whatever it Takes!!!"

2015-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Get with the plan, guys: http://notoriousrbg.tumblr.com Dan, closet RBG fan Sent from my iPad > On Feb 13, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > Neither was I, and I didn't even watch it or play > http://lonelyconservative.com/2014/01/heres-the-2014-state-of-the-union-drin

Re: [MBZ] No More AMEX @ Costco

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Please send a link. This is TERRIBLE news. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:06 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No credit cards at all or just no Amex? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 13, 2015, at 5:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] No More AMEX @ Costco

2015-02-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
http://www.wsj.com/articles/american-express-to-lose-costco-exclusivity-1423746408 Sent from my iPad > On Feb 13, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Please send a link. This is TERRIBLE news. > >> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:06 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> No credit

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