>> Martin, do You remember that ? Me look in the README and can't find.
>>
> Needs a setting in registry.
> http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=gmane.comp.ide.mseide.user&query=f12
>
Great thanx ! And it MUST be in the README :)
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>> From VERSION.TXT:
> "
> 2010-08-18
> DB single key locate() replaced by multi key version.
> "
> This was on request of you IIRC? ;-)
>
Opps, the array parameter ?
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>> > Aha, with many open forms?
>>
>> Aha, in the PODPISKA. No problems in clear IDE.
>>
> Can reproduce on win32 only. You?
> Please try again with git master
> 8e041bbc69952897e689be609f73e9723af934e3.
>
Fixed. Thanx !
-
> MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.2 has been released:
>
Thanx !
BTW, the F12 win-32 debugger issue (a piece of hard to find info) isn't
reflected in the README yet :)
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> I do not plan to add it. Debugging MSEide in MSEide is normally done by
> experienced people and README.TXT should be as short as possible.
>
Disagreed. The absence of this README item may disable coming those new
experienced people
since the issue solution is hard to find thus the people will
>> I do not plan to add it. Debugging MSEide in MSEide is normally done by
>> experienced people and README.TXT should be as short as possible.
>>
>
A file like "DEBUG.info" ?
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>>
> OK. Please provide it. Or a link in README.TXT to a Wiki article?
>
>
DEBUG.info
==
In win-32, when debugging MSEide as a slave project run within master
MSEide, there're possible
uncontrollable breakpoints on pressing the F12 key (in MSEide, this k
A file like "DEBUG.info" ?
In the new DEBUG.txt, there're "B" chars at line ends (seen in win-32).
See the attachment/<>--
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> a couple capacitors were on the
> verge of blowing up, and the CPU seems to have developed an overheating
> problem...
>
>
Repair of these issues by oneself is quite easy ;)
But anyway, the upgrade is always a good money deposition.
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> Depends - my board had one at a place with _very_ high heat capacity. It
> nearly took a welder to replace it...
>
Hmm, in this situation we use a fan with 275..300d egC hot air (a part of
SMD soldering station) applied to bottom side of mobo as an assistant to
solder.
>> But anyway, the up
> 8 cores are available,
> development machines use even more, and research machines with several
> hundred cores _on one chip_ are already commonplace. Probabely even your
> cell phone has a multicore processor...
>
Beyong the 99% usual splitting CPU duties into IO_and_drawing_GUI and
serving_
> Just try "ArcSoft MediaConverter" on converting 1GB movie in different
> (CPU/NVdia/AMD) modes to compare.
>
Me've just tried converting a 18M FLV video, the results are as follows:
1) dual core CPU (Core2Duo E8400 3.06GHz 6ML2 - it's a serious CPU) - 1
min 15 sec
2) ATI/AMD APP on 960 shad
> Please, could you avoid resending the whole previous communication with
> every new article?
Me don't see anything.
Does my Opera do that ? Hmm..
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> That would mean that the AMD shaders had very
> poor performance, and alltogether the shaders wouldn't even caom close to
> the performance of your main CPU.
>
No, the test means that work of both 100% loaded CPUs may (on easily
parallelized task) can be easily (13% load for AMD & 20% load for
Approx 6 subtasks. Complicated enough. With strict data security demands.
Very tough terms - 1.5..2 months.
And it seems that me'll have to program it.
With MSEgui sure because the main demand is to be cross-platform from
keyboard up to printer.
PostgreSQL based, possibly with offline mode of T
> A big project in 1.5..2 months? I have a rule of thumb that a project
> must be basically running and the main problems must be solved in half
> of the development time. So you have 4 weeks for the development of a
> 100% working prototype. Not much. :-)
>
>
It's a combination of PODPISKA (your
> Then you need an encrypted localdataset log file?
>
Though it'll only contain reference=readonly data (operational=writable
data will always be remote), me think yes.
The problem is to make easy to set up (via installer) on different OS by a
regular user - encrypted loopback on LINUX, encryp
> I plan to add a "cryptohandler" property to tmsefilestream where
> encryption components can hook, a generalization of the "cryptio"
> functionality in msesockets. All msestreams inherit from tmsefilestream
> so encryption should be possible for all streams used in MSEgui.
>
The encrypted storag
> Yes, because that's a task that lends itself very well for partitioning
> and
> parallel processing.
AFAIK, only H264 files are such, the other formats aren't that in mind.
But it seems that ArcSoft found a way :)
-
>> AFAIK, only H264 files are such, the other formats aren't that in mind.
>> But it seems that ArcSoft found a way :)
>
> Most (compressed, even lossy) video formats have synchronisation frames,
> which can be used to rebuild the following part without knowledge of the
> previous part.
That's str
> How do you number things?
Me guess the best solution is that won't enforce referencing docs &
sources whether 0 or 1 :)
That's once established system for every case. If 90% is zero based then
the remaining 10% should also turn into zero based.
-
> counting numbers are called "cardinal", while numbering numbers (;) are
> called "ordinal".
In FPC, the "cardinal" is >=0 (can really be counted on fingers) with
twice as higher upper bound.
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> I'd like to split the mopenssl.pas monster into separate units. What
> were the
> criteria for the different ifdefs? Especially what belongs to always
> loaded
> sslutils and what to X509_,EVP_...?
>
>
To make the compiled unit (=exe) a bit smaller if only a set of cypher is
planned to use
> others are not. >What is the criterium?
>
They provide dependencies of other "ifdefs" or common dependencies
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The build command :
#!/bin/sh
rem ppc386.exe apps\ide\mseide.pas -Fulib\common\* -B
-Fulib\common\kernel\i386-win32 -Fi\lib\common\kernel -dmse_with_ifi
rem msedirclear .\
echo // >> apps\ide\regcomponents.inc
fpc -Mobjfpc -B apps\ide\mseide.pas -Fulib\common\*
Me mean :
- direct data are transferred remotely to tmsesqlqury then loaded into a
local grid
- WEB-connection retrieves same data and packs them into HTML table (a lot
of parasite tags like TR/TD etc)
The Q: how much traffic difference between these approaches for say 1000
records ?
Does s
> Really, calling "tools\msedirclear .\" seems to fix the problem.
> To the README ?
Can it be a good idea to include the "msedirclear" code into BUILD
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> Not by default. FPC should fix the bugs in the compiler. You add the
> script
> yourself by 'Project'-'Options'-'Make'-'Command default'.
>
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> Ready for testing, git master 68b8f038caa0d32696bf5ca54e5210a052fbca2a.
> tsslcryptohandler is in tab 'NoGui'.
>
Great thanx !
PS:
Will MSEgui work with x86_64 PostgerSQL client+server ?
(my home Win7 machine)? Should me also download the win32 version client
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> Ready for testing, git master 68b8f038caa0d32696bf5ca54e5210a052fbca2a.
> tsslcryptohandler is in tab 'NoGui'.
>
If easy, how about the idea about to use tsslcryptohandler for connection
encrypting (AFAIK, FB & PostgSQL) so that to avoid using middle-ware like
OpenVPN, Stunnel & and to manag
> Hi,
> There are breaking changes in FPC fixes_2_6. MSEide+MSEgui does not
> support
> FPC 2.6.1 anymore, please use 2.6.0 instead.
> http://www.mail-archive.com/fpc-devel%40lists.freepascal.org/msg25865.html
> It seems Graeme and me are the only persons who don't like breaking
> changes in
>
But it's difficult to object to the below Your statement:
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need to change it in fixes_2_6 so we have a bookmark type with automatic
memory management again.
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If the main advantage of FPC over C/C++ is
> FreeBSD: fast, clear standards, consistent and very stable. Not to
> mention the absolute must-have ZFS file system support - I don't trust
> my data on anything else any more.
>
>
Unfortunately, it lacks a lot of important software (incl networking &
system administration [VPN daemons,..]) &
> In any
> case, for a development workstation or a server, FreeBSD seems to do a
> wonderful job.
Besides the excellent NETFILTER, there're networking issues which can't be
solved in FreeBSD.
In the current rapid tech deleloping world, the huge & misc & up-to-date
choice offered by various LI
But "fontactive" does.
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"{your_project}.exe" MUST be added to behavioral filter exclusions
otherwise a deadlock of desktop may happen on running the project from
within IDE!
> On Monday 14 May 2012 09:31:54 IvankoB wrote:
>> otherwise annoying messages on building project etc.
>>
> I don't understand. Example?
>
Me deleted wrong form files by TotalCommander (from file system) outside
the IDE (sure forgot to exclude them from the project)
For instance:
# git ls-files --others --exclude-from=.git/info/exclude
# Lines that start with '#' are comments.
# For a project mostly in C, the following would be a good set of
# exclude patterns (uncomment them if you want to use them):
# *.[oa]
# *~
*.exe
*.a
*.o
*_mfm.*
>> Me deleted wrong form files by TotalCommander (from file system) outside
>> the IDE (sure forgot to exclude them from the project) - the IDE
>> detected
>> that & bombed with complains :)
>>
> What means "exclude them from the project"?
>
Just an assumption. Me don't know how to do it.
Maybe
> Do you know the ".gitignore" file?
>
Project wide too ? What for this doubling..
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> Yup, on client side especially on Windows where OpenSSH does not request
> passwords for private keys from pipes.
Win32's SSH is a nightmare too. It requires key path to be ANSI no-space
as long as still requires it to be user home directory which is
space-containing & non-latin at me. The s
>> But "fontactive" does.
>>
> Please try again with git master
> 88894476637118ed424b75f9bc461c97f8825fef.
>
Fixed, thanx !
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> So simply share the correct public key files and place
> them in the correct location for SSH to find.
The Qs were "where these correct places are in different setups ?" (it
took tries & errors )" & "how to bypass the non-latin etc limitations? "
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> Works for me.
Even creating a simple form via "Application.CreateForm" ? At me, it only
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> I must admit, it is a odd place (which I never specified during any
> setup), but it has no spaces in the path or any non-latin characters.
>
As me wrote, the correct (no need to adjust SSH settings) place on WinXP-
would be NTFS-symlink like C:\Users\latin_name to C:\Documents and
Settings\
> E:\Programme\Git\.ssh"
GIT ignores it unless directed to use.
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>> No testcase -> no fix.
>>
>
> Done. Seacrh the created simple form behind the main one.
Oops, forgot to mention that the previous message contains a archived
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>> Done. Seacrh the created simple form behind the main one.
>>
> Please try again with git master
> d12eb39472c9141d423eb37470aa8f40479206d5.
>
Fixed, thanx !
PS:
Me didn't have time to check - was busy at preparing 3200 STUNNEL
configurations so that they can be installed easily both on win
Any suggestions for FPC & MSEGUI ?
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>> There must be "libX11.so" file (or a symlink to it) in /usr/lib/.
>>
> The devel packages provide the links from *.so to actual *.so.* file.
>
AFAIK, there're some measures to be more flexible as to exact file names
of DLLs. Correct ?
>> function showmessage(const actionbefore: notifyeventty; const atext:
>> msestring; const caption: msestring = ''): modalresultty;
> [...]
>
> What is the advantage of this compared with implementing your own
> specialised
> showmessage function for example (not tested)
> "
> type
> soundty =
>> Can MSEgui play sounds w/o LIBPULSEAUDIO (doesn't work in winNT6+) ?
>>
> There is no MSEgui sound interface component appart from taudioout which
> is
> based on pulseaudio ATM. Please use the sound library of your choice.
>
> Martin
>
Oops, PulseAudio has been highly upgraded :
http://free
Win32 support has also been upgraded (v1.1)
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Ports/Windows/Support
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> Sure, and how are you? :-)
>
OK, thanx :)
The alone thing me'm affraid is that me can eventually have hated
programming after such huge & boring brain loads ;)
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>> Quick& dirty -- to allow showing GIT console window as long as SSH
>> password is being entered.
>
> How? There is no attached windows console.
>
There're CygWin, GitBash, MSVC++ etc win-32 console implementations.
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> Unlocking the keys by MSEgit is unsafe, too complicated and environment
> dependent.
STUNNEL (both LINUX & win-32 versions) does the unlock somehow.
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>> Thanx !
>> Have You been able to reproduce ?
>> This problem stops my work fully...
>>
> Please send the testcase to
> nntp://opensoft.homeip.net/mseide-msegui.binary
> and write the steps.
>
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> Please send the *_mfm.pas files too, the msedirclear.cmd is not
> reliable. It seems it does not call form2pas if there are no files to
> delete.
> The testcase does not compile because of missing -Fu.. for needed units
> mt1inputform,raddrinputform... . After fixing -Fu.. and creating the
> *_mf
>>> Please send the *_mfm.pas files too, the msedirclear.cmd is not
>>> reliable. It seems it does not call form2pas if there are no files to
>>> delete.
>>> The testcase does not compile because of missing -Fu.. for needed units
>>> mt1inputform,raddrinputform... . After fixing -Fu.. and creating
> Yes, a permanent move for us as a family. Our two cats land tomorrow
> morning. :) We moved from South Africa to England.
>
>
Oooh..from a traditional community (and the Motherland) to a post-modern
one of divided people. Many people can't bear such change for long time [
me had been living
An unhandled exception occurred at $004400C7 :
EClassNotFound : Class "tmainmenu" not found
$004400C7 TREADER__FINDCOMPONENTCLASS, line 1692 of
E:/FPC/svn/fixes_2_6/rtl/objpas/classes/reader.inc
$0043D7EB TREADER__READCOMPONENT, line 866 of
E:/FPC/svn/fixes_2_6/rtl/objpas/classes/reader.
>> How can it be ?
>
> Because of -Fu../ ?
> You probably have a main.ppu in your ./ directory.
>
Me applied MSEDIRCLEAR to assure renewing these files.>
Oops, the IDE seems to compile wrong (upper-level) MAIN.PAS sometimes:
-
Free Pascal Compiler version 2.6.0 [2011/12/25] f
>> May be because of the upper-level target executable ?
>
> Because of -Fu../
> Suggestion: move mt1inputform and the other inputforms to ../inputforms
> or the
> like and change -Fu../ to -Fu../inputforms.
>
Me can't - these files relate to another project with PRJ-file in that
directory.
Th
> South Africa is quite divided too. :) There are just too much racism,
> corruptions and other politics in SA, and no foreseeable future for
> our 3 year old son.
>
Racism = fashism...an unavoidable temporary consequence (back move, issue
of emotions) of apartheid.
Though, the country has got i
> It seems your directory layuot can not work with FPC.
> After deleting ../main_mfm.o the program compiles and runs.
Oops.. More that one GUI projects can't coexist in same directory since
all they have "main.mfm" as autocreated main form... and they can't be in
different subdirectories if t
BTW, changes to directory related project options (adding/editing
"../libcurl/") don't save at me on pressing F9 - direct "save" of the
project should be called.
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> exe, use 'Project'-'Make'-'Command after'.
>
How to copy the built executable to "../" in platform independent way
using a macros ?
("CP" for LINUX & "COPY" for Win32) ?
> I would more like to reproduce and fix the problem, MSEide should never
> freeze.
>
Me tried approx 50 times, probably t
Ask on the FPC mailinglist if the behavior is intended and what to do.
In MSEide you can run a post compile command or script to copy or move
the
exe, use 'Project'-'Make'-'Command after'.
copy /Y ${PROJECTDIR}${PROJECTNAME}${EXEEXT} ${PROJECTDIR}..
May be an option but doesn't work (see th
>> How to copy the built executable to "../" in platform independent way
>> using a macros ?
>> ("CP" for LINUX & "COPY" for Win32) ?
>>
> Make a ${copy} macro.
Me have zero experience as to it :) Which its code be for :
{$IFDEF LINUX}
cp -f -- ${PROJECTDIR}${PROJECTFILE}${EXEEXT} ${PROJECTDIR
See attachment.
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> I would more like to reproduce and fix the problem, MSEide should never
> freeze.
>
Then try multiple source edit & F9 with the wrong directory layout
disregarding any compile etc errors as me did.
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>> I would more like to reproduce and fix the problem, MSEide should never
>> freeze.
>>
>
> Then try multiple source edit & F9 with the wrong directory layout
> disregarding any compile etc errors as me did.
>
Happens again approx every 3 minutes of edit+F9, with message "device %2
%3 doesn't r
> I don't understand. Where is this message?
In title area of source window.
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> 'Target'-'Interrupt' does not work?
>
Doesn't work since the mouse pointer in the wait state thus the menu can't
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>> > 'Target'-'Interrupt' does not work?
>>
>> Doesn't work since the mouse pointer in the wait state thus the menu
>> can't
>> be accessed.
>>
>>
> I meant in the outer MSEide. Don't you run MSEide debugged by MSEide?
>
Got it !
#0 7C90E4F4 :0 ntdll!LdrAccessResource()
#1 7C90D9BC :0 ntdll!Z
The IDE is interrupted currently. What to see further ?
How to see which file ?
The threads state is ere attached.
PS:
The threads window doesn't have the handy Copy-To-Clipboard functionality.
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>>> In title area of source window.
>>>
>> ???
>> Please send a screenshot.
>>
>
> Oops, in title area of main IDE window.
> Any, the snapshot is hereattached.
>
Some investigation was taken :) This error message is written in the title
bar of application by WinXP(2003), the problem is reference
IvankoB п
> Some investigation was taken :)
WINXP SP2 (5.1.2600.2952):
-2147483407, "Не отвечает на запросы Windows XP"
-2147483406, " (Не отвечает)"
-1073741436, "Устройство %2 \"%3\" не отвечает."
WINXP SP3 (5.1.2600.5588)
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>> The IDE is interrupted currently. What to see further ?
>> How to see which file ?
>>
> As I feared, gdb can not unwind the stack. Not it becomes difficult...
>
People also fights with it:
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/kernel/122683-stack-unwind-through-signal-frame.html
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> Martin Schreiber wrote:
>
>> As I feared, gdb can not unwind the stack. Not it becomes difficult...
>
> As I feared, gdb can not unwind the stack. *Now* it becomes difficult...
>
And it may mean "a long time to fix" :)
> And it may mean "a long time to fix" :)
> Me tend to blame antivirus (Avast) though its disabling (not
> uninstalling)
> dosn't fix the issue. As well as adding MSEGUI*, FPC, GDB so on to AVAST
> exclusion lists. And me can't uninstall it (our LAN is highly infected).
>
Hmm.. Has never happene
> Hmm.. Has never happened today if "File->SaveAll" was performed before
> pressing F9.
And very rare if there're 5+ seconds between last source change (w/o
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> Hmm.. Has never happened today if "File->SaveAll" was performed before
> pressing F9.
>
>
Since MINGW GDB 7.4 (2012june) is more verbose then some more
investigations were taken:
MSEide stops on reading from pipe
"\Device\NamedPipe\Win32Pipes.09d0.0002" by
SYS_READ(FD=1744(dec)=6
6D0: File (---) \Device\NamedPipe\Win32Pipes.09d0.0002
[...]
6D4: File (---) \Device\NamedPipe\Win32Pipes.09d0.0002
Here, the pipe \Device\NamedPipe\Win32Pipes.09d0.0002 is accessed
by two file handles 6D0 & 6D4.
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> Martin Schreiber wrote:
>
>> As I feared, gdb can not unwind the stack. Not it becomes difficult...
>
>
MSEIDE runs GDB within:
Threads by ProcExplorer:
MSEIDE:
id=2028, Wait:Executive => Seems to be the main thread
> Please try for an experiment
> "
> if (obj > 0) and (integer(obj) < length(handles)) then begin
> fafd:= handles[obj];
> application.lock;
> FindNextChangeNotification(fafd);
> application.unlock;
> dochange(fafd);
> end;
> "
Hmm..no freezes after approx 100 attempts wit
> The problem seems to be internal to Windows?
Yes, it's a message sent by Windows.
> Still the "Устройство %2 \"%3\"
> не отвечает." message in main
> window?
>
No, the problem looks fixed at the moment.
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Another problem - units dependencies don't autoupdate.
For instance:
///
MAIN.PAS:
uses
main_mfm
,curlobj
,readcert in '../readcert.pas'
;
//
Changes in '../readcert.pas' aren't detected by MSEide so there's a
message "not found" about "readcert" by linker (
it
so that application can read files from as there as from current directory.
For instance:
read_cert('local.crt' );
///
calls :
fstr:= ttextstream.create(certfile);
procedure read_cert(const certfile: filenamety );
var
fstr: ttextstream;
str
For instance, compile time errors aren't briged to for '../readcert.pas'
below:
//
uses
main_mfm
,curlobj
,readcert in '../readcert.pas'
,msesys
,mseconsts
,msetypes
;
//
Me can't include exact directory of '../readcert.pas' to the project
"Make" op
>> Use 'Project'-'Make' if you make changes in Files with another editor.
>>
>> 1) same editor (MSEide)
>> 2) "Make" doesn't help until changing a file using ( having in "USES"
>> ) the file
>>
> -> FPC bug?
>
Hardly because this (USES .. IN '..') feature is No1 of DELPHI
co
>> But it means a unit dependency parser/maintainer at the source level,
>> correct ?
>>
> MSEide does *not* parse unit dependency for compiling purpose.
>
What to do then ? Inserting spaces to trigger refreshing units is for
"between us" knowledge only ;)
Or to refuse to the approach "many pro
>> so that application can read files from as there as from current
>> directory.
>
> Please use 'Target'-'Environment'-'Working directory'.
>
>
It works, thanx !
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