Re: SRv6

2020-09-22 Thread Paul Timmins
On 9/21/20 6:16 PM, Randy Bush wrote: yes, privacy is one aspect of security. and, as mpls vns are not private sans encryption, they are not secure. randy As my backyard is not surrounded by a cement enclosure with acoustic baffling and white noise generators inside, it's not really

Re: NANOG SPAM (was Re: Just got this apparently fake NANOG invoice - Looks phishy)

2020-09-22 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Sep 21, 2020, at 6:03 PM, Bryan Fields br...@bryanfields.net wrote: Hi, > What's happening here is a subscription comes in from a valid email bot using > gmail or $BIGHOST (google doesn't give af) I'm old enough to remember the Usenet Death Penalty. That used to be pretty effective in

ARIN 46 Registration Now Open

2020-09-22 Thread John Curran
NANOGers - ARIN 46 Registration is now open! Note that we will have the Public Policy consultations on 14-15 October (before NANOG) and the ARIN Member Meeting afterwards on 23 October. Please register asap for the ARIN meeting if you will be participating! Thanks! /John John Curran

Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-22 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 07:58:42AM -0500, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > geeks@nanog works just fine Yes, it works just fine for *that* purpose. However, *this* has a different purpose: Shining a light on ambulance chasers - Noction

RE: SRv6

2020-09-22 Thread aaron1
Lol I was thinking that if I ever need to know about *anything*, I can now just google "srv6 nanog" - Aaron

Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-22 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
geeks@nanog works just fine  -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > On Sep 22, 2020, at 07:53, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 06:30:24PM -0600, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:

Re: Cogent emails

2020-09-22 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 06:30:24PM -0600, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote: > Is this simply being aggregated by a NANOG member / subscriber and thus > something unofficial? That's exactly right. Whether NANOG itself ever wants to do anything with the results is entirely up to them. ---rsk

Re: BFD for routes learned trough Route-servers in IXPs

2020-09-22 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Sep 22, 2020, at 4:46 AM, Andy Davidson wrote: > > Hi, > > Douglas Fisher wrote: >> B) There is any other alternative to that? > > Don't connect to IXPs with very very large and complicated topologies. > Connect to local IXPs where the design makes a forwarding plane failure that >

Re: BFD for routes learned trough Route-servers in IXPs

2020-09-22 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi, Douglas Fisher wrote: > B) There is any other alternative to that? Don't connect to IXPs with very very large and complicated topologies. Connect to local IXPs where the design makes a forwarding plane failure that causes the problem you describe less likely. Andy

Re: SRv6

2020-09-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On 22/Sep/20 00:06, Greg Shepherd wrote: Call me old, but I miss the days when this thread was still on the SRv6 rails. Can we get back the proper bashing to match this thread title? Probably not off-topic, since vendors may push SRv6 as a(n) (MPLS) VPN replacement and new money-maker