Hello,
I'm a clarinetist, I used lilypond, realy great tool.
I'm using linux since 10 years, vim is my editor. I'm not a mouse-adict user.
But as Donal Knuth seems to say : I can't act like mathematician, it's
not what I am.
Il like lilypond, and Contex. I like the may they manage to produce
Aditya Mahajan a écrit :
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
Maurício wrote:
used ‘ϕ’ in a math formula for one of his papers and Context
it showing up depends on what you use (mkii or mkiv), if the character
is defined, if the font has it (in text mode) etc etc
For mkii you simply
Am 2008-06-12 um 20:26 schrieb Maurí cio:
The reason for a standard tag language is that the main engine
should be able to do some operations on data, like breaking it in
pieces like words, paragraphs or staffs on music scores, sometimes
without fully understanding what exactly those are.
The reason for a standard tag language is that the main engine
should be able to do some operations on data, like breaking it
in pieces like words, paragraphs or staffs on music scores,
sometimes without fully understanding what exactly those are.
Possible outcomes: with a proper
There is your unified system. XML rulez - for better or for
worse. It's really no fun to write XML by hand.
But, as you said, TeX and Lilypond have a similar syntax. I belive
they could share some kind of common language.
What you are thinking about is probably a master document
Maurício wrote:
used ‘ϕ’ in a math formula for one of his papers and Context
it showing up depends on what you use (mkii or mkiv), if the character
is defined, if the font has it (in text mode) etc etc
could not open it, since it was a PDF revision 1.8 instead of 1.3
indeed a future
Do you mean like Scrivener on the Mac?
I don’t know. I tried Context, then TeX, than went back to
Context. Now also Metapost. Sorry for beeing biased, but I really
like the programer approach to computers.
What, in any case, constitutes a universal layout approach? Does
one exist? (...)
I
Thanks, Idris, for your interest. I don’t understand enough
about typesetting and computer math to make an informed sugestion,
but I’ll try my best.
What about a Metapost-like main engine to define the general
layout of pages? That engine would know about borders, floating
spaces for pictures or
Sorry to insist, but I would be really interested in approaches
that are not just great things we could add to TeX.
For instance: would it be possible to have some kind of “layout
engine” to which text processing would be just one among other
plug-ins? I wonder what kind of information that
Hi Maurício,
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:12:21 -0600, Maurício [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Sorry to insist, but I would be really interested in approaches
that are not just great things we could add to TeX.
For instance: would it be possible to have some kind of “layout
engine” to which text
Do you mean like Scrivener on the Mac?
What, in any case, constitutes a universal layout approach? Does one
exist?
For example, I can do things with plain TeX that mighty InDesign must
balk at. Yet some see TeX as yesteryear's solution because of subsequent
tech advances.
I hardly believe that
- a GUI ;-) and thus layout by let's try how it looks
Almost true.
Here it seems that there is a way to embed latex in scribus
http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Working_with_latex_frames
Also
http://lists.scribus.info/pipermail/scribus/2007-January/024109.html
--
luigi
Am 30.05.2008 um 09:12 schrieb Yue Wang:
advanced software, like InDesign
Well, ...
Steffen
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Am 2008-05-31 um 04:20 schrieb luigi scarso:
There are still some areas where you need a programmable system, even
trivia like chapter dependant running titles (in ConTeXt:
headertexts).
Isn't indesign programmable too ?
I know people who use it in an automatic workflow for db publishing
Last night I remembered two more things that TeX can't do, but every
layout app can:
- text flow around other elements (images)
\parshape ?
- really working multiple-column layout
in context columnset with two pass strategy
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On 5/31/08, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Last night I remembered two more things that TeX can't do, but every
layout app can:
- text flow around other elements (images)
\parshape ?
I forword an email to the professor.
it discuss some of the points together with some examples.
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Yue Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/31/08, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Last night I remembered two more things that TeX can't do, but every
layout app can:
- text flow around other elements (images)
\parshape ?
I forword an email to the
- much faster (i.e. I don't need to wait for several TeX runs e.g. if
I need to check if some tweak fixed my page breaking)
On average
true for manual composition, maybe false for automatic workflow
- optical (vs. metrical) kerning
hz ?
- a GUI ;-) and thus layout by let's try how it looks
luigi scarso wrote:
- optical (vs. metrical) kerning
hz ?
all those kerning options can lead to rather bad text ... i get the
impression that wrongly applied hz (extreme values) and intercharacter
spacing and such in general lead to bad text ... i read quite some books
and am sometimes
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2008, Maurício wrote:
Hi,
Just because I'm curious: how could a typesetting system like TeX
be if it was created today?
luatex
http://www.luatex.org
There is ant http://ant.berlios.de/
River
There is ant http://ant.berlios.de/, but it is supposed to be saner form of
TeX (in terms of source code, and easy of configuration) which was developed
from scratch. The user interface is quite similar to TeX. I do not know much
about the internal differences between Ant and TeX.
ANT have
Maurício wrote:
Hi,
Just because I'm curious: how could a typesetting system like TeX
be if it was created today? I've tried google and wikipedia, and
all I found different from TeX is a system called 'Lout', but it
seems dead.
Does anyone knows about novel or interesting ideas that
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
Does anyone knows about novel or interesting ideas that could be
used if we would write a new typesetting system from scratch?
River detection, which is done by ant, but not by TeX.
If there was a clear algorithm I could implement that in luatex.
But I have not
Hi.
Practically speaking, I expect it would be a lot like lyx with
tex built in. Who would design a document language without
front-end these days?
Maybe using LuaTeX + wxLua + Poppler is a better approach?
Yue Wang
Am 30.05.2008 um 09:12 schrieb Yue Wang:
advanced software, like InDesign
well ... cough ...
Steffen
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2008/5/30 Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
River detection, which is done by ant, but not by TeX.
If there was a clear algorithm I could implement that in luatex.
But I have not seen any whitepaper on the subject and I cannot
read OCaml source well enough to understand
On 5/30/08, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 30.05.2008 um 09:12 schrieb Yue Wang:
advanced software, like InDesign
well ... cough ...
There is no denying that many advanced features in InDesign are
missing in TeX(like) related software. What's more, the
internationalization of
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Maurício [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Just because I'm curious: how could a typesetting system like TeX
be if it was created today? I've tried google and wikipedia, and
all I found different from TeX is a system called 'Lout', but it
seems dead.
I think
Hi Yue,
On Fri, 30 May 2008 06:24:56 -0600, Yue Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
advanced software, like InDesign
well ... cough ...
There is no denying that many advanced features in InDesign are
missing in TeX(like) related software. What's more, the
internationalization of InDesign is
Am 30.05.2008 um 14:24 schrieb Yue Wang:
On 5/30/08, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 30.05.2008 um 09:12 schrieb Yue Wang:
advanced software, like InDesign
well ... cough ...
There is no denying that many advanced features in InDesign are
missing in TeX(like) related
On Friday 30 May 2008 16:15:08 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 30.05.2008 um 14:24 schrieb Yue Wang:
On 5/30/08, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 30.05.2008 um 09:12 schrieb Yue Wang:
advanced software, like InDesign
well ... cough ...
There is no denying that many advanced
Am 2008-05-30 um 14:31 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid:
There is no denying that many advanced features in InDesign are
missing in TeX(like) related software. What's more, the
internationalization of InDesign is better.
Can you give a precise list of the features contained in InDesign
that are
There are still some areas where you need a programmable system, even
trivia like chapter dependant running titles (in ConTeXt: headertexts).
Isn't indesign programmable too ?
I know people who use it in an automatic workflow for db publishing
--
luigi
Hi,
Just because I'm curious: how could a typesetting system like TeX
be if it was created today? I've tried google and wikipedia, and
all I found different from TeX is a system called 'Lout', but it
seems dead.
Does anyone knows about novel or interesting ideas that could be
used if we would
On Fri, 30 May 2008, Maurício wrote:
Hi,
Just because I'm curious: how could a typesetting system like TeX
be if it was created today? I've tried google and wikipedia, and
all I found different from TeX is a system called 'Lout', but it
seems dead.
There is ant http://ant.berlios.de/, but
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