Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-12-06 Thread Tim Schnell
client it is in a git repo. It could >>>> then automatically look for repo information and set a stack metadata >>>> item pointing back to it. >>> >>> Or just store the URL. >>> >>>> If you didn't care about taking a performance hit

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-12-06 Thread Randall Burt
> >> Or just store the URL. >> >>> If you didn't care about taking a performance hit, heat client could >>> always try and check to see if it was a git repo url. That may add >>> several extra http requests though... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Kevin >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-12-06 Thread Tim Schnell
> Kevin >> >> From: Clint Byrum [cl...@fewbar.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:04 PM >> To: openstack-dev >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related >>requirements & roadmap >

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-28 Thread Zane Bitter
esday, November 27, 2013 1:04 PM To: openstack-dev Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2013-11-27 08:58:16 -0800: This use case is sort of a providence case. Where did the stack come from so I can

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Zane Bitter wrote on 27.11.2013 22:56:16: > From: Zane Bitter > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, > Date: 27.11.2013 23:00 > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related > requirements & roadmap > > On 27/11/13 19:57, Jay Pipes wrote: > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message on 27.11.2013 20:17:56: > From: Zane Bitter > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, > Date: 27.11.2013 20:21 > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related > requirements & roadmap > > On 27/11/13 18:16, Tim Schnell

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Tim Schnell
I have created the following wiki with all of the related use cases that have been discussed in this thread as well as where I think we have currently landed on the actual implementation for these use cases. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/UI I know that the first use case in particular, re

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Tim Schnell
On 11/27/13 4:12 PM, "Steve Baker" wrote: >On 11/28/2013 05:09 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: >> On 26/11/13 22:24, Tim Schnell wrote: >>> Use Case #1 >>> I see valid value in being able to group templates based on a type or >> >> +1, me too. >> >>> keyword. This would allow any client, Horizon or a Tem

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Fox, Kevin M
stack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2013-11-27 08:58:16 -0800: > This use case is sort of a providence case. Where did the stack come from so > I can find out more about it. > This exhibits similar problems

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/27/2013 04:56 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 27/11/13 19:57, Jay Pipes wrote: Actually, even simpler than that... parameters: db: - db_name: description: blah help: blah - db_username: description: blah help: blah After all, can't we assume that if the para

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/28/2013 05:09 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 26/11/13 22:24, Tim Schnell wrote: >> Use Case #1 >> I see valid value in being able to group templates based on a type or > > +1, me too. > >> keyword. This would allow any client, Horizon or a Template Catalog >> service, to better organize and hand

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Zane Bitter
On 27/11/13 19:57, Jay Pipes wrote: Actually, even simpler than that... parameters: db: - db_name: description: blah help: blah - db_username: description: blah help: blah After all, can't we assume that if the parameter value is a list, then it is a group of

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-11-27 10:57:56 -0800: > On 11/27/2013 01:28 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> I propose adding an additional field to the parameter definition: > >> > >> Parameters: > >> : > >> description: This is the name of a nova key pair that will

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2013-11-27 08:58:16 -0800: > This use case is sort of a providence case. Where did the stack come from so > I can find out more about it. > This exhibits similar problems to our Copyright header problems. Relying on authors to maintain their authorship inf

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-27 09:16:24 -0800: > > On 11/27/13 10:09 AM, "Zane Bitter" wrote: > > >On 26/11/13 22:24, Tim Schnell wrote: > >> I propose adding an additional field to the parameter definition: > >> > >> Parameters: > >> : > >> descri

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Tim Schnell
On 11/27/13 1:17 PM, "Zane Bitter" wrote: >On 27/11/13 18:16, Tim Schnell wrote: >> >> On 11/27/13 10:09 AM, "Zane Bitter" wrote: >> >>> On 26/11/13 22:24, Tim Schnell wrote: Use Case #1 I see valid value in being able to group templates based on a type or >>> >>> +1, me too. >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Zane Bitter
On 27/11/13 18:16, Tim Schnell wrote: On 11/27/13 10:09 AM, "Zane Bitter" wrote: On 26/11/13 22:24, Tim Schnell wrote: Use Case #1 I see valid value in being able to group templates based on a type or +1, me too. keyword. This would allow any client, Horizon or a Template Catalog service

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/27/2013 01:28 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: I propose adding an additional field to the parameter definition: Parameters: : description: This is the name of a nova key pair that will be used to ssh to the compute instance. help: To learn more about nova ke

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Zane Bitter
On 27/11/13 18:12, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-11-27 08:09:33 -0800: In the longer term, there seems to be a lot of demand for some sort of template catalog service, like Glance for templates. (I disagree with Clint that it should actually _be_ Glance the proje

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Jason Dunsmore
On Wed, Nov 27 2013, Zane Bitter wrote: >> >> Parameters: >> db_name: >> group: db >> order: 0 >> db_username: >> group: db >> order: 1 >> db_password: >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Tim Schnell
st (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap You bring up a good point Thomas. I think some of the discussions are mixing template and stack perspectives, they are not the same thin

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Tim Schnell
explain is really more of an edge >case, so let's ignore it for now. > >Thanks, >Tim > >On 11/27/13 3:19 AM, "Thomas Spatzier" wrote: > >>Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message on 27.11.2013 00:44:04: >>> From: Tim Schnell >>> To: "OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Tim Schnell
m a design standpoint. >> >> Once keywords has been added to the template then part of the blueprint >> would be to return it with the stack-list information. >> >> The previous example I attempted to explain is really more of an edge >> case, so let's ignore

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Tim Schnell
On 11/27/13 10:09 AM, "Zane Bitter" wrote: >On 26/11/13 22:24, Tim Schnell wrote: >> Use Case #1 >> I see valid value in being able to group templates based on a type or > >+1, me too. > >> keyword. This would allow any client, Horizon or a Template Catalog >> service, to better organize and han

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-11-27 08:09:33 -0800: > In the longer term, there seems to be a lot of demand for some sort of > template catalog service, like Glance for templates. (I disagree with > Clint that it should actually _be_ Glance the project as we know it, for > the reas

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Edmund Troche
2.286.8977 From: Thomas Spatzier To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List \(not for usage questions \)" , Date: 11/27/2013 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements &

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Fox, Kevin M
M To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap Ok, I just re-read my example and that was a terrible example. I'll try and create the user story first and hopefully answer Clint's and Thomas&

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Thomas Spatzier
hnell wrote on 27.11.2013 16:24:18: > From: Tim Schnell > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > , > Date: 27.11.2013 16:28 > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related > requirements & roadmap > > Ok, I just re-read

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Tim Schnell
On 11/27/13 10:39 AM, "Zane Bitter" wrote: >On 26/11/13 23:44, Tim Schnell wrote: >>> A template-validate call would need to return all the group and >>>ordering >>> >information, but otherwise heat can ignore this extra data. >> I agree with all of your modifications, although bringing up the >

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/11/13 23:44, Tim Schnell wrote: A template-validate call would need to return all the group and ordering >information, but otherwise heat can ignore this extra data. I agree with all of your modifications, although bringing up the template-validate call reminded me that the implementation

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/11/13 22:24, Tim Schnell wrote: Use Case #1 I see valid value in being able to group templates based on a type or +1, me too. keyword. This would allow any client, Horizon or a Template Catalog service, to better organize and handle display options for an end-user. I believe these are

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Tim Schnell
o let's ignore it for now. Thanks, Tim On 11/27/13 3:19 AM, "Thomas Spatzier" wrote: >Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message on 27.11.2013 00:44:04: >> From: Tim Schnell >> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" >> , >

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message on 26.11.2013 23:29:06: > From: Steve Baker > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, > Date: 26.11.2013 23:32 > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related > requirements & roadmap > > On 11/27/2013 11:02 AM, Chr

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-27 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message on 27.11.2013 00:44:04: > From: Tim Schnell > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > , > Date: 27.11.2013 00:47 > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related > requirements &

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ladislav Smola's message of 2013-11-26 06:04:12 -0800: > Hello, > > seems too big to do the inline comments, so just a few notes here: > > If we truly want to have Templates portable, it would mean to have the > 'metadata' somehow standardised, right? Can you point to another port

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-26 13:24:22 -0800: > So the originally question that I attempted to pose was, "Can we add a > schema-less metadata section to the template that can be used for a > variety of purposes?". It looks like the answer is no, we need to discuss > the features

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Tim Schnell
.@rackspace.com>> >> >>Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" >>mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.o >>rg>> >>Date: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:02 PM >> >>To: "OpenStack Development Mailing L

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Angus Salkeld
uot; mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:02 PM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements &

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Tim Schnell
ck.org>> Date: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:02 PM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:24 P

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Tim Schnell
On 11/26/13 4:16 PM, "Steve Baker" wrote: >On 11/27/2013 10:24 AM, Tim Schnell wrote: >> So the originally question that I attempted to pose was, "Can we add a >> schema-less metadata section to the template that can be used for a >> variety of purposes?". It looks like the answer is no, we need

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Christopher Armstrong
"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" < > openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements > & roadmap > >On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tim Schnell > wrote: > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Tim Schnell
nstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap On 11/27/2013 11:02 AM, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tim Schnell mailto:tim.schn...@rackspace.com&

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Tim Schnell
st (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tim Schnell mailto:tim.schn...@rackspace.com>> wrote: So the originally question that I

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/27/2013 11:02 AM, Christopher Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tim Schnell > mailto:tim.schn...@rackspace.com>> wrote: > > > > Use Case #3 > Grouping parameters would help the client make smarter decisions > about how > to display the parameters for input

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/27/2013 10:24 AM, Tim Schnell wrote: > So the originally question that I attempted to pose was, "Can we add a > schema-less metadata section to the template that can be used for a > variety of purposes?". It looks like the answer is no, we need to discuss > the features that would go in the m

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Christopher Armstrong
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tim Schnell wrote: > So the originally question that I attempted to pose was, "Can we add a > schema-less metadata section to the template that can be used for a > variety of purposes?". It looks like the answer is no, we need to discuss > the features that would g

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Tim Schnell
So the originally question that I attempted to pose was, "Can we add a schema-less metadata section to the template that can be used for a variety of purposes?". It looks like the answer is no, we need to discuss the features that would go in the metadata section and add them to the HOT specificati

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Zane Bitter
On 26/11/13 03:26, Keith Bray wrote: On 11/25/13 5:46 PM, "Clint Byrum" wrote: Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-25 14:51:39 -0800: Hi Steve, As one of the UI developers driving the requirements behind these new blueprints I wanted to take a moment to assure you and the rest o

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 03:04:12PM +0100, Ladislav Smola wrote: > Hello, > > seems too big to do the inline comments, so just a few notes here: > > If we truly want to have Templates portable, it would mean to have > the 'metadata' somehow standardised, right? > Otherwise if every UI will add the

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Ladislav Smola
> Date: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:47 PM To: "openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org <mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>" <mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap On 11/26/

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-25 Thread Keith Bray
ent Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:47 PM To: "openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-25 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/26/2013 03:26 PM, Keith Bray wrote: > > On 11/25/13 5:46 PM, "Clint Byrum" wrote: > >> Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-25 14:51:39 -0800: >>> Hi Steve, >>> >>> As one of the UI developers driving the requirements behind these new >>> blueprints I wanted to take a moment to ass

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-25 Thread Keith Bray
On 11/25/13 5:46 PM, "Clint Byrum" wrote: >Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-25 14:51:39 -0800: >> Hi Steve, >> >> As one of the UI developers driving the requirements behind these new >> blueprints I wanted to take a moment to assure you and the rest of the >> Openstack community

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-25 Thread Fox, Kevin M
rom: Clint Byrum [cl...@fewbar.com] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 3:46 PM To: openstack-dev Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-25 14:51:39 -0800: > Hi Steve, > > As one of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Schnell's message of 2013-11-25 14:51:39 -0800: > Hi Steve, > > As one of the UI developers driving the requirements behind these new > blueprints I wanted to take a moment to assure you and the rest of the > Openstack community that the primary purpose of pushing these requireme

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements & roadmap

2013-11-25 Thread Tim Schnell
Hi Steve, As one of the UI developers driving the requirements behind these new blueprints I wanted to take a moment to assure you and the rest of the Openstack community that the primary purpose of pushing these requirements out to the community is to help improve the User Experience for Heat for