LOL!
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Blah, I do about 2,000 lines just during lunch on a napkin before I go back
to work. And I ussually put it on two napkins, one in assembly and one in a
high level language like c
Blah, I do about 2,000 lines just during lunch on a napkin before I go back
to work. And I ussually put it on two napkins, one in assembly and one in a
high level language like c++ so other people can read it. One time, I
actually had to disassemble Oracle.exe as there was some code I didn't lik
Hehehe! My record is 125 PL/SQL procedures
in a day. Lost count of the lines of code.
But I had VIM to help me...
Cheers
Nuno Souto
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http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/the_Den
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> I have fond memories of writing 1300 lines of code in
> one 12 hour day a
I have fond memories of writing 1300 lines of code in
one 12 hour day a few years back. This was a front
end to a DOS version of RCS ( or something like RCS )
and it was for versioning an entire set of application code.
Written in a compiled language called 'Force'. It even
worked when I was
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> From: Christopher Spence [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> My
I believe that was counting lines of code per person/day over the entire
development lifecycle, so some days you actually write no code because
you were writing documentation, or sitting in meetings eating donuts or
whatever. COBOL can actually be measured fairly well in terms of lines
of code per
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My theory is this.
A loosel
aritimes, MPO
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My theory is this.
A loosely used ratio for performance reviews.
(Number of Bugs Resolved x Number
My theory is this.
A loosely used ratio for performance reviews.
(Number of Bugs Resolved x Number of Projects x Number of lines of code -
(Bugs introduced in your code x 500))
But use this with a grain of salt as many things are involved in programming
and lines of codes, bugs, and number of
On Friday 15 June 2001 06:00, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> There was a manager in that same shop who measured her programmers
> abilities by the number of lines of code they wrote in a day. She also said
> to me once "I don't like to waste time on design"
Rachel,
Remember the Dilbert where the PH
I can top that one! My first real Oracle job was at a company that was
trying to convert from being a mainframe service bureau to becoming an open
systems software vendor - when Oracle and open systems were near heresy in
the business world. Only one other person and myself in the entire company
> Number of pages has absolutely no bearring on a good book.
Yes it does. I don't like ones with too many! ;-)
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. the more words, the more money. Made for very very detailed
stories :)
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>Come on Rachel. You mean that lines of code is not a good measure of a
>programmer's productivity? Next thi
> Number of pages has absolutely no bearring on a good book.
Does the number of pages have a bearing on how well the database is
administered?? ;)
Hey, it's Friday and I always say "Weak humor is better than no humor at
all."
Mike "If I wasn't laughing, I'd be crying" Hand
Polaroid Corp.
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Was this a bad
thing?
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ime on design"
Truly. And they wondered why people kept quitting on her.
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only when you write magazine articles or short stories. :)
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Lets not get into how we divied up time . otherwise I will be here for
days !!
We had to account for each 15 minute block . and THAT was when we were
working in the office ! Our time sheets took, on average, about 2 hours out
of each 2 week period to prepare.
In my new job, they have
One of my favorites is divying up how I spent my time each week. If a
project has a problem and I spend 4 hours researching it before solving it,
that is 4 hours to the project. But if I happened across that problem during
my normal reading and research (i.e. this group or other web sites) that is
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home>Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:05:52 -0800>>Come on Rachel.
You mean that lines of code is not a good measure of a>programmer's
productivity? Next thing you'll tell me the its not the number&
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>Come on Rachel. You mean that lines of code is not
uly. And they wondered why people kept quitting on her.
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why people kept quitting on her.
>From: "Nuno Souto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> So we all lied a lot. And this was "sitting at our desks"
>
That IMHO is the main flaw of all these new management techniques
and "metrics" being pushed by methodology reps. They are
very good when dealing with coal face workers. They haven't got
a chance in he
I actually work for a company that is ok with working from home and have
done
it but I am now at a client that was quite insistent that everyone be here
from 8-5.
So we all pretty much said ok and we all now work much less hours. Sucks to
be them.
VPN is a god send though. When I have to take
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
->After all, how do they manage accountability when you are in the office? By
->the number of hours you sit at your desk or by the work that gets done, to
->deadline and correctly?
in my case the former... damagement
work we do should really be done off-hours. I don't know of
too many sites that allow you to bring down the production database in the
middle of the working day to do a database upgrade.
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> After all, how do they manage accountability when you are in the
office? By
> the number of hours you sit at your desk or by the work that gets
done, to
> deadline and correctly?
In Australia, unfortunately it's the first option. Most managers
wouldn't
have a clu
Mark,
Well, in order to give you my 2 cents worth, lets answer those
in order:
— Accountability: Work needs be get done whether in office or
at home. If it gets done and db's are running well, it shouldn't matter
where it gets done from. This is very hard for some managers to understand
Yep, allowed to work from home, but prefer working at
the office.
Accountability
We have mutual trust between management and techies.
I've got a pager and am on call 24x7. Work that has
been assigned to us gets done and as long as it's done
we're ok. We try extra hard not to break this trust
b
Accountability: My boss judges by the fact that work gets done. I am
treated as a responsible adult and he figures that I know what has to be
done and will get the work done. They tend to let me manage myself in any
case, onsite or telecommuting. He also knows that I am often working from
hom
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