Re: French unemployed movement

1998-01-24 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
> as long as the EC central >bank does not resemble the Bundesbank ? John, will not a strict interpretation of the Maastricht convergence criteria ensure that the Euro will indeed be managed according to an economic policy reflecting and fostering the interests of German capital. E.g., the single

Re: French unemployed movement

1998-01-24 Thread Dennis R Redmond
On Sat, 24 Jan 1998, john gulick wrote: > What do pen-l'ers make of the argument propounded by pro-EMU social democrats > that w/o EMU global financial markets will discipline expansionary/welfare > initiatives, and at the very least w/EMU some weak version of EC-wide > expansionary/welfare initi

Re: The Situation In Cuba

1998-01-24 Thread Gar W. Lipow
Louis --Hope you don't mind this addition to a discussion you have officially retired from. But, you are a long time activist (probably including on this issue). I'm sure it was purely accidental that your brilliant theoretical analysis of Cuba's suffering under global capitalism omitted any

Re: request

1998-01-24 Thread Andrew C. Pollack
Dear Michael, Glad to hear the book is coming out! If in the category of resources you include rank-and-file newsletters (and Websites), could you mention the Health Care Worker Monitor (www.igc.org/hcwm)? I can give you copies and details if it's relevant (and also have addresses for NY transi

Re: French unemployed movement

1998-01-24 Thread john gulick
What do pen-l'ers make of the argument propounded by pro-EMU social democrats that w/o EMU global financial markets will discipline expansionary/welfare initiatives, and at the very least w/EMU some weak version of EC-wide expansionary/welfare initiatives can be achieved, as long as the EC central

Discussing Thorstein Veblen

1998-01-24 Thread Louis Proyect
Lou, All your posts on Indian history and conditions have been interesting in themselves, but as you proceed along this line beware of a possibility that I would image as follows: Getting from here (central Illinois) to New York by hitchhiking along I55 to Los Angeles, then signing on to the crew

Re: Selective responses (second try)

1998-01-24 Thread Mike Yates
Friends, Mao wrote about several kinds of contradictions. Some are primary at a given time and some are not. In Cuba, the main contradiction I believe is that between the US and Cuba. We here in the US can do little about Cuba's internal contradictions, although we can offer principled critici

Re: The situation in Cuba

1998-01-24 Thread Louis Proyect
>If the range of choices is limited to emulating the NEP, then prospects >for the future appear pretty bleak, don't they? > >Sid Schniad As I suspected, Sid and Brian Green are more interested in discussing how socialism can be achieved rather than the particular problems of the Cuban revolution.

Re: ForniGate?

1998-01-24 Thread James Heartfield
In message , Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Tom Walker wrote: > >>It's only a matter of time before Clinton's current scandal becomes known as >>"ForniGate" > >On another list, "Tailgate" was suggested. > >Doug > > > On the cover of today's Daily Mirror newspaper (UK): 'Fornigate' -- Ja

Re: The situation in Cuba

1998-01-24 Thread Louis Proyect
Sid Schniad: >PS -- please, Louis, try to address the substantive issues that I'm trying >to raise without engaging in ad hominem attacks on me for raising them. You and Brian aren't raising any new issues as far as I'm concerned. Anybody who reads a newspaper is aware of the problems in Cuba. As

Thorstein Veblen on the fur trade and American Indians

1998-01-24 Thread Louis Proyect
In analyzing America's nineteenth century dilemma, Veblen concluded that vested interests did not bear their share of environmental costs because the "doing business" rationale of wealthy Americans caused rapid social losses for the nation at large. As an eyewitness to wasteful farming practices a

Re: The situation in Cuba

1998-01-24 Thread Sid Shniad
Louis, I'm not taken with the answer that I've "added nothing new" here. The problem we're all grappling with in this discussion of Cuba is the pattern of elites (ostensibly progressive) who, acting in the name of the people, carry out policies that are detrimental to the people. To say that simi

Re: The situation in Cuba

1998-01-24 Thread Michael Eisenscher
At 04:27 PM 1/24/98 -0500, Louis Proyect wrote: [SNIP] >I don't mind discussing these questions, but if people are serious about >it, they're going to have to approach them in a rigorous and scholarly >fashion. Otherwise, I will treat them with the contempt they deserve. I >have been following Cub

New Video - School of the Americas: An Insider Speaks Ou (fwd)

1998-01-24 Thread Sid Shniad
> Comments: Authenticated sender is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: "NUEVO AMANECER PRESS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "NAP-E6"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 23:20:50 + > Subject: New Video - School of the Americas: An Insider Speaks Ou > > > ORDER FORM FROM SOA WATCH > > > "http:/

Re: Please Re-Post: Full translation of Castro speech

1998-01-24 Thread Louis Proyect
The official translation of Cuban President Fidel Castro's statement of welcome to Pope John Paul II: Holy Father, The land you have just kissed is honored by your presence. You will not find here the peaceful and generous native people who inhabited this island when the first Europeans arrived.

Re: Fidel & religion, capital & embargo

1998-01-24 Thread Louis Proyect
Brian Green: >So let's cut through the talk and get to the reality -- Cuba is >pursuing a logic very similar to those espoused by Canadian and US >governments. And following that logic, its course of action is the same - >cutback on workers' gains, bolster disiplinary institutions, and court >priv

Please Re-Post: Full translation of Castro speech

1998-01-24 Thread Jay Hecht
Louis, If you still have the file, could you re-post the speech. Or, if it is in the archive, could you send me the site name? Thanks a million, Jason

The situation in Cuba

1998-01-24 Thread Sid Shniad
Further to the (very interesting) discussion between Louis and Brian, the national CBC news had a piece last night showing Cuban women teachers and physicians being forced to engage in prostitution in order to supplement their meagre salaries. As they saw it, the choice was to allow their kids to

Useful URL's for the Re Utopias Thread

1998-01-24 Thread Gar W. Lipow
Yes I know you have a lot more meaty stuff to think about right now. But you all know damn well that the "Re Utopias" thread may return eventually. These are just some useful on-line resources to keep on file for when that happens. The first item on the list is by me -- because I don't DO humilit

Irish Times on French unemployed movement (fwd)

1998-01-24 Thread Sid Shniad
>The Irish Times >WORLD NEWS Thursday, January 22, 1998 > > Jospin shivers in > winter of discontent > >Lara Marlowe looks at the unemployment protests that are still >gathering momentum and are not confined to thos

Seeking clarification

1998-01-24 Thread Sid Shniad
Hi, Jeff. Please clarify. Do you want me to label satirical pieces before posting them? Or do you want me not to post them? (I didn't understand what "remove the braces" meant.) Sid > > Sid: > > I love good satire. But I must object to posting unlabeled satirical > pieces on pen-l. I do not h

RE: Raped environment led polluters on, attorneys argue

1998-01-24 Thread Fellows, Jeffrey
Sid: I love good satire. But I must object to posting unlabeled satirical pieces on pen-l. I do not have the time to worry about the authenticity of each item you present on pen-l. The more you post these pieces, the more skeptical I become of the other interesting articles you provide. The artis

Re: Tad Szulc on Castro and the Pope

1998-01-24 Thread Louis Proyect
Paul Fitzgerald: >It is interesting to note that Seymour Hersh states in The Dark Side of >Camelot that Szulc was a central figure in CIA efforts to kill Castro >during the Kennedy era. > Why I believe you're right. As I recall, Oliver Stone dealt with this in one of the byzantine subplots of the

Re: French unemployed movement

1998-01-24 Thread Mike Yates
Dear Andy, I hate to send this over the list but I could not get a messge through to you at the email address listed. Please resend me the list of sources for my appendix plus anything else you think would be good. Thanks. Michael yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew C. Pollack wrote: > On Sat, 24

Re: Fidel & religion, capital & embargo

1998-01-24 Thread Brian Green
lifting the blockade is not going the >>be the death-knell of socialism in Cuba, because any meaningful socialism is >>already dead! > >Either dead or alive... Either black or white... Either good or bad... >Learn to think dialectically, Brian. Socialism as it has existed - from the Soviet Union