[DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread David Blewett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All: I read a thread from July explaining the current status of moving to XML [1]. Peter, you mention that if someone has a clear need you would be open to switching. Let me explain the problems I've encountered with SGML. A few months ago, I spl

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 09:09 -0500, David Blewett wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi All: > > I read a thread from July explaining the current status of moving to XML > [1]. To add to this, it would take minutes to transform XML versus the days it takes the SGML. Jos

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
David Blewett wrote: > I started work on modifying the SGML to use a set of 3 volumes, split > at roughly 500 page intervals. I wanted to generate individual ToC's > and indexes for each volume. I started to modify the SGML to include > a "role" attribute for each indexterm, to tell what volume it

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Josh Berkus
Peter, First of all, moving to DocBook XML will not do anything in the way of improving our output processing abilities. Any tool that you can use on DocBook SGML can also be used on DocBook XML and vice versa. As I said then, this is absolutely untrue. OpenOffice.org, for example, wo

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 13:36 -0500, Josh Berkus wrote: > Peter, > > > First of all, moving to DocBook XML will not do anything in the way of > > improving our output processing abilities. Any tool that you can use > > on DocBook SGML can also be used on DocBook XML and vice versa. > > > > A

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Josh Berkus wrote: > As I said then, this is absolutely untrue. OpenOffice.org, for > example, works with DocBook XML but not SGML. What does "works" mean? > There are also a > plethora of XML editing and publishing tools which can been used for > Docbook XML which are not available for SGML.

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 21:15 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: > > As I said then, this is absolutely untrue. OpenOffice.org, for > > example, works with DocBook XML but not SGML. > > What does "works" mean? You can create, edit, convert, save, and open docbook xml in OpenOfice.

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > You can create, edit, convert, save, and open docbook xml in > OpenOfice.org. Sure, there are more editing options with DocBook XML. No one disputes that. But the question at hand was about processing the DocBook. > You are correct but XML does give us more modern and

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 21:58 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > You can create, edit, convert, save, and open docbook xml in > > OpenOfice.org. > > Sure, there are more editing options with DocBook XML. No one disputes > that. But the question at hand was about processin

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 15:26, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 21:58 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > You can create, edit, convert, save, and open docbook xml in > > > OpenOfice.org. > > > > Sure, there are more editing options with DocBook XML. No one

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 15:45 -0600, Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 15:26, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 21:58 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > You can create, edit, convert, save, and open docbook xml in > > > > OpenOfice.org. > > >

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 15:51, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 15:45 -0600, Scott Marlowe wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 15:26, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 21:58 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > > You can create, edit, conve

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
> > OO treats Docbook like a normal document. You will however loose styles > > (like bold, italic). It does support tables, it understands > > transformation from things like sect1 (from OO heading1) etc... > > > > The style loss is to be expected because Docbook doesn't contain > > representati

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Oisin Glynn
Joshua D. Drake wrote: OO treats Docbook like a normal document. You will however loose styles (like bold, italic). It does support tables, it understands transformation from things like sect1 (from OO heading1) etc... The style loss is to be expected because Docbook doesn't contain representati

Re: [DOCS] Switching to XML

2006-12-08 Thread Mario
On 08/12/06, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is a long standing support within the community to move to XML including: Josh Berkus Josh Drake Robert Treat Andrew Dunslane David Blewett David Fetter Devrim Gunduz Darcy Buskermolen And that is just from #postgresql And now in

Re: [pgsql-www] [DOCS] 8.2.0 pdf

2006-12-08 Thread Jim Nasby
On Dec 7, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: Devrim, could you share your texmf.cnf ? My pdf creation failed even if I increased memory setting as it's recommended in jadetex installation. I had to increase several settings in that file. http://www.gunduz.org/postgresql/texmf.cnf ISTM t