Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Wietse Venema
Viktor Dukhovni: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 09:11:55AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > To make per-recipient end-of-data replies useful with Postfix, PRDR > > would need to be supported by at least one third-party content > > inspection mechanism (such as Amavisd-new or Milter), because I see > >

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 03:23:11PM +0100, Mark Martinec wrote: > Wietse wrote: > > To make per-recipient end-of-data replies useful with Postfix, PRDR > > would need to be supported by at least one third-party content > > inspection mechanism (such as Amavisd-new or Milter), because I see > > no o

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 09:11:55AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > To make per-recipient end-of-data replies useful with Postfix, PRDR > would need to be supported by at least one third-party content > inspection mechanism (such as Amavisd-new or Milter), because I see > no obvious user interface fo

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Mark Martinec
Wietse wrote: > To make per-recipient end-of-data replies useful with Postfix, PRDR > would need to be supported by at least one third-party content > inspection mechanism (such as Amavisd-new or Milter), because I see > no obvious user interface for PRDR with Postfix header/body_checks. > > - SMT

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Wietse Venema
Patrick Ben Koetter: > * Claus Assmann : > > Per RCPT filtering is a feature that is often asked by ISPs who > > offer anti-spam/virus for their customers: some pay for additional > > filtering. > > In Germany you either reject globally in session, and stick with > the law, or you reject post-queu

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Claus Assmann : > Per RCPT filtering is a feature that is often asked by ISPs who > offer anti-spam/virus for their customers: some pay for additional > filtering. In Germany you either reject globally in session, and stick with the law, or you reject post-queue per recipient. Adding functional

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld
[Wietse] I just stubled across this thread: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/exim/users/90005 We could take a bold step and do it in two "main stream" MTAs, damn the torpedoes. Let's not call it a bold step, let's call it a bottom-up approach ;-). I can't speak for Oracle, but I wou

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-22 Thread Claus Assmann
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:30:49PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > > I just stubled across this thread: > > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/exim/users/90005 > > We could take a bold step and do it in two "main stream" MTAs, > > damn the torp

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-22 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:30:49PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > I just stubled across this thread: > > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/exim/users/90005 > > We could take a bold step and do it in two "main stream" MTAs, > damn the torpedoes. Is it worth the effort? Will enough SMTP cl

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Claus Assmann: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011, Wietse Venema wrote: > > > > It's a shame http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hall-prdr-00.txt or > > > something like it never went anywhere. > > > It is surprising, considering that there is experience with > > per-recipient data replies in LMTP, and that it is

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-22 Thread Claus Assmann
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011, Wietse Venema wrote: > > It's a shame http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hall-prdr-00.txt or > > something like it never went anywhere. > It is surprising, considering that there is experience with > per-recipient data replies in LMTP, and that it is straightforward > to impleme