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Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
The problem is that PyPI isn't a good name since it's the name of ONE
index.
Westley, do you have any other idea?
Otherwise, I think we should stick to index, which is a good name for
something that's named index quite everywhere
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Alexis, you introduced the client/crawler naming after reading some book;
what do you think now?
Making the distinction between a crawler and a client is probably not a
good idea since it introduces two concepts instead of one simple
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Attaching a work in progress file which intend to replace the current
install.py file. The implementation isn't finished yet but the overall design
is here.
It comes with four classes:
- Installer which manages the overall installation
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We are all calling these indexes quite everywhere. We are talking about
a Python Package Index and even the mirroring infrastructure is talking
about indexes. Because that's under the packaging namespace, it's
kind of obvious
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New submission from Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org:
PyPI is the name of a particular index, whereas index is a generic term.
So ISTM that it would be better to use the latter, semantically-wise.
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Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Good catch,
One solution would be to have the pysetup script name suffixed by the
version of python is comes with. For instance, for python 3.3 it would
be pysetup3.3 (that's how it is atm).
This means that pysetup would point
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While I kind of agree with you, this field is proposed by the PEP 345
and had been approved as it is. It seems probably better to stick with
what's defined there mainly because any change to the PEP is a heavy
process and we won't have
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The packaging tutorial currently talks about pysetup run install_dist and
pysetup install which aren't doing the same thing: one fetches the
dependencies while the other doesn't.
This should be stated clearly.
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The packaging.install module doesn't have a clear API defined and it's doing
a lot of indirections between all the functions to get metadata, fetch the
dependencies and install what's need to be installed.
We might be able to come
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Did someone changed anything in the codebase regarding this (or did it solved
itself magically?)
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That would be helpful yep. I can add this in the docs if you've not done it
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I'm +1 on this. Having an install command, on a distribution, makes more
sense than having an install_dist one, because of course the object is a
distribution!
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I think it could be helpful to have this work at least somewhere so we can work
on top of it. For instance if someone wants to do changes in the documentation,
then only thing it would do now would be to cause potential merge conflicts
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Oh, a potential way to avoid this would be to check that the metadata
have the python 3 trove classifier in it.
We could also add a way to force the installation even if the right
classifier is not present with a special flag passed
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The supposed way to work, for OS packagers, is to ship this
sysconfig.cfg thing.
I'm not sure we should rely on a customized site-local configuration,
without defining any standard way of doing this (IOW: what are we
looking
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The APIs of distutils2 have changed. the index module is now named pypi.
So, doing something like::
from distutils2.pypi.simple import Crawler
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Hey, is there any news on this bug? Berker?
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Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Thanks for reporting this Preston,
Could you be a bit more precise on this one? What is the input you are giving
(in the dist-info) and what is not being done? (what's the expected output and
what's what you have as a result of running
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Agreed on this one. That would avoid to have a new syntax for this
case, which seems to be very common.
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I need to do some general cleanup on packaging/d2, and especially on this bit.
Currently, the implementation is way too complicated for what it does.
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It is supposed to work already, but I'm not sure this is tested or complete.
I'll have a closer look on this. +1 on the general idea.
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Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
If no MD5 checksum is present on the crawled simple index, then we don't have
to check them. This means we introduce a potential security hole here (md5
checksums were added for a reason).
What could be done is to explicitely don't
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Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Thanks for reporting this, Jan-Jaap,
I've marked this issue as easy, it's mostly a matter of looking at the passed
parameter and outputing the list in the generated file, respecting the PEP 345
format (http://www.python.org/dev/peps
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Right, I'll go for this then.
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Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Oh, thanks for clarifying this.
I'll have a look at what the blockers are on this. I'm wondering if
local files can be considered a simple index or not. If not, we can
add another PyPI reader, which works with local files
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Thanks Rémy,
About testing, I would go for modules with errors in it and check that when
imported trough this function it does what it is supposed to do.
IOW:
1. Create a test python module with errors in their definition (Throw
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
_run_setuptools_install is only intended to support setuptools setup.py,
converting .egg-info to .dist-info, internally. IMO, you should not care about
the differences between setuptools/distutils1/setuptools at this level, as it
should
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IOW, in my opinion, support for setuptools develop command is not needed in
packaging core, and still be taken care directly be the users wanting to run
python setup.py develop: I don't see any reason to make it avaible on the
stdlib
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Yep, packaging is not keeping the .egginfo directories, or at least does not
plan to keep them (It should be the case currently but I haven't checked
recently) in the upcoming release, so I would go on removing support for
setuptools
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
On 08/18/2011 05:54 PM, higery wrote:
Then do you also mean support that for setuptools install is also not
necessary in packaging core?
setuptools install is only supported in packaging because it's a widely
used thing, and many
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The documentation about locale.getlocale() doesn't talk about the fact that the
locale isn't read from the system locale. Thus, it seemed strange to have
locale.getlocale() returning (None, None).
As it seems to be the expected
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
I see two different things here:
1) the fact that getlocale() doesn't return (None, None) on some python
versions
2) the fact that having it returning (None, None) by default is a bit
misleading as users may think that getlocale
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Maybe could it be useful to specify in the documentation that getlocale() is
not intended to be used to get information about what is the locale of the
system?
It's not explained currently and thus it's a bit weird to have getlocale
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The example section of the timeit documentation still refers to timeit.py,
and isn't using the python -m timeit syntax used above.
http://docs.python.org/library/timeit.html#examples
I'm not sure when and if the timeit.py script has
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Carl, I believe that's this one: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UsecasesOfDevelop
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I'm +1 on applying this patch as well. Removing files in the tmp directory is
far better than letting the OS doing so.
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Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Same here, cannot reproduce the issue. I wasn't able to reproduce it even
before Tarek's commit so I suppose his commit didnt changed anything regarding
this hash problem.
Antoine Tarek, does the attached additional test reproduces
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
On 29/04/2011 18:20, Daniel Holth wrote:
New in version 2.6.
Yep that's it. We would need to backport it in the python2 port of
packaging (namely distutils2), but it would do the trick.
I just started a discussion about
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
This raises a concern about python specific python implementations
dependencies.
We probably could extend PEP 345 in order to support things such as
'platform.python_implementation == cpython
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Some nitpicks:
In mirrors.get_server_key, the documentation is not up to date with your last
changes (raises an error if there is a problem instead of returning None)
You do use the name 'package' while talking about distributions
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Antoine Pitrou on #python-dev made interesting remarks about the validation:
16:19 __ap__ hmm the way the patch does validation is bogus
16:22 __ap__ because it opens the URL a first time, validates it,
then opens it a second time
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Hi,
I was more thinking about something like: if the license is specified in the
License metadata, then check that it's not a well known license (which can
and must be provided by the classifiers instead).
At the end, the code you've
Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
That's almost what the PEP says, or at least what I understand of it.
The platform and license fields should be used only if no matching classifier
exists for them.
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yeah, thanks for that !
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The MANIFEST.in is definitely gone in distutils2.
Can we close that? (don't have the rights to do so ‑ it can be handy on
distutils2 bugs)
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Has the patch been applied on distutils(1/2) ?
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I've applied the patch on distutils2. This can now be closed.
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Have the patch been applied ? (the state is still open since last message)
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Alexis Metaireau ale...@notmyidea.org added the comment:
Still, the extra_path argument exists and can be used, it's worth to
have it documented somewhere, especially if someone have done it.
That's also true that apiref.rst is outdated in d2, and will need a
complete reshape
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Alexis Metaireau ametair...@gmail.com added the comment:
Yes, all the functions are covered. By the way, I've covered all the functions
based on the pypi source code, not on the wiki.
I'll update the wiki page with some examples soon
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Please, can you be a bit more precise about the missing features ? I'll be glad
to cover them.
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