On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 05:46:37AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Arguments about O_NOFOLLOW on the intermediate stages are bullshit, IMNSHO -
> if they want to make some parts of tree inaccessible, they should simply
> mkdir /tmp/FOAD; chmod 0 /tmp/FOAD; mount --bind /tmp/FOAD
> in the namespa
On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 05:05:17PM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote:
>Reiserfs list, and I don't think there was much consensus that came out
It's like Gentoo users and patch sets ;)
>of it. Currently for Reiser4, AFAIK, the "metas" name is a compile-time
>option that you can change by changing a #defin
On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 07:31:49PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > - how to actually test this out in practice (ie getting reiser4 to do the
> > >proper thing wrt the VFS layer, but preferably _also_ having another
> > >filesystem like NFSv4
On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 08:55:02PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Well, the above _is_ the same as "openat()", really. It's just using a
> filesystem starting point to emulate a new system call. Same thing
> conceptually. You could do pretty much any system call as a filesystem
> action if you want
Spam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Chris Wedgwood wrote:
[...]
> > Gnome, KDE, Emacs and Bash all see different virtual filesystems.
> > (All but Bash implement their own virtual filesystem extensions).
> > That makes them much less useful than they could be.
> Exactly, and I doubt t
Rik van Riel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > So "/tmp/bash" is _not_ two different things. It is _one_ entity, that
> > contains both a standard data stream (the "file" part) _and_ pointers to
> > other named streams (the "directory" part).
> Thinking abo
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 12:46:10PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > Now there is no attribute space, just a shorthand.
>
> It's more than a shorthand, though. _Much_ more.
> ...
> Both of those are why it would need special support.
Yes - support, I do not argue against that.
But I argue against
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 04:04:34PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Christophe Saout wrote:
> > What reiser4 can do, but the VFS can't is to insert or remove data in
> > the middle of a file. Adding this above the page cache would probably be
> > almost impossible (truncate seems already complicated en
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 05:09:28AM -0500, Steve Bergman wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 23:54 -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
> > >
> > I didn't write this (more precisely, it only vaguely resembles what I
> > wrote in 1996). Are you saying that it reports system time as real
> > time? If yes, then it
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 05:09:28AM -0500, Steve Bergman wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 23:54 -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
> > >
> > I didn't write this (more precisely, it only vaguely resembles what I
> > wrote in 1996). Are you saying that it reports system time as real
> > time? If yes, then it
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 05:29:07PM -0500, Steve Bergman wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 11:15 -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
> > >
> > If you ask real users, they say that reiser4 is fast, and their
> > experience matches our benchmark. You can criticize the benchmark if
> > you want, but then you sho
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:55:50PM +0400, Nikita Danilov wrote:
> Hans Reiser writes:
> > Nikita Danilov wrote:
> >
> > >Hans Reiser writes:
> > > > Christophe Saout wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I don't know, ask Hans. How could the VFS know it a filesystem wants to
> > >
On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 02:36:50AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
> Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Hans Reiser wrote:
> >>I object to openat().
> >
> >Sound slike you object to O_XATTRS, not openat() itself.
> >
> >Realize that openat() works independently of any special streams, it's
Hi,
Nikita provided a small patch for this problem on #reiser4:
--- dir.c.org 2004-08-29 11:32:40.0 +0200
+++ dir.c 2004-08-29 12:03:40.0 +0200
@@ -126,6 +126,9 @@
data.mode = object->i_mode;
data.id = inode_file_plugin(object)->h.id;
+ if (!inode_f
did you remember to apply the patch on lkml for not loosing data with
2.6.9-rc1-mm1
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 19:06 +1000, Hamish Rodda wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Following up my earlier email, I upgraded to 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 and enabled a few
> of the reiser4 debug options. I did the same command (copy 6G of fil
Hello,
This thread is very very very very big. I think lots of people spend
hours talking here. Isn't it time for a summary of all this please ?
(for people like me who are quite busy and try to follow... but also for
the health of the debate)
Thank!
Mikael.
Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Hans Reiser wrote:
I object to openat().
Sound slike you object to O_XATTRS, not openat() itself.
Realize that openat() works independently of any special streams, it's
fundamentally a "look up name starting from this file" (rather than
"starti
Hans Reiser writes:
[...]
>
> I remember talking with not just you but zam about how we could fix it,
> and there was too much in the queue of work, and everyone was
> complaining to me that we should be debugging not optimizing, and you
> were the only one who thought it was a big deal.
Hi,
Following up my earlier email, I upgraded to 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 and enabled a few
of the reiser4 debug options. I did the same command (copy 6G of files from
a reiser3 partition to a clean reiser4 partition), and it oopsed again at
just under 5G (4999264 1k blocks) - this seems to be a pattern.
- 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 has a bug that affects all filesystems (pointed out
earlier today). so don't use if you love your data ;)
Can you tell us more about this bug?
(I'm using 2.6.9-rc1-mm1 and would like to know, what will happen ;) )
See:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109360433916523&
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