Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.07.2009, at 07:22, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:24:13PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: > >> However, I feel like it could be better if the community (who I >> might even stretch to call "customers") could have more influence. >> [...] What are the options for the communit

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Philippe Clérié
> For what it is worth, it is easy enough to add activities to the > Fedora SoaS; I don't doubt that. But at this stage I'm only looking at what is already packaged. TamTam does not seem to be packaged by Fedora or Ubuntu. > presumably you'll be doing a local replication of > your image? I am

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Walter Bender
2009/7/29 Philippe Clérié : > Just tried the OpenSUSE version as suggested. Unfortunately, it does > not have a driver for the Ethernet chip in the mini 110. Wireless is > a known issue. > > Other than that, I like it. It has the most activities and even > includes the TamTam activities. If I can s

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Philippe Clérié
Just tried the OpenSUSE version as suggested. Unfortunately, it does not have a driver for the Ethernet chip in the mini 110. Wireless is a known issue. Other than that, I like it. It has the most activities and even includes the TamTam activities. If I can solve the networking problems that's

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Caroline Meeks wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Tomeu Vizoso > wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 14:24, Greg Smith > wrote: > > Hi Tomeu, > > > > Thanks for the feedback. > > > > On this: > >>

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 14:24, Greg Smith wrote: > > Hi Tomeu, > > > > Thanks for the feedback. > > > > On this: > >>> I'm working on the GPA list (see: > >>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy). If others have > >>> lists of

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 14:24, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi Tomeu, > > Thanks for the feedback. > > On this: >>> I'm working on the GPA list (see: >>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy). If others have >>> lists of requirements, send them out. Then perhaps Simon, Tomeu et al >>> can link

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Tomeu, Thanks for the feedback. On this: >> I'm working on the GPA list (see: >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy). If others have >> lists of requirements, send them out. Then perhaps Simon, Tomeu et al >> can link to them from some Roadmap creation page. We may be further >

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 06:05, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/7/29 Walter Bender : >> Daniel, could you start the ball rolling by being more explicit about >> some specific unmet needs of deployments that might be actionable? > > OK, where should we make such a list? You can put such requests in a new

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/7/29 Walter Bender : > Daniel, could you start the ball rolling by being more explicit about > some specific unmet needs of deployments that might be actionable? OK, where should we make such a list? Daniel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Walter Bender
2009/7/28 Philippe Clérié : > On Tuesday 28 July 2009 04:48:25 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Perhaps the highest priority should be a Live CD/USB that is easily > and reliably installable on the hard disk of a machine. I've now > tried strawberry and Sugar on Fedora and neither is satisfactory; > Sugar on

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Walter Bender
Apologies for jumping back to the beginning of the thread. Daniel makes some good point here on a theme that have been raised repeatedly over the lifetimes of both the Sugar project and OLPC. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > quoting Tomeu from another thread (with no bad feel

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > quoting Tomeu from another thread (with no bad feelings at all): > > "Sugar Labs has currently no resources to focus on anything, it > depends on volunteers doing whatever they want. I chose to spend my > time to make easier for more people to

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/7/28 Philippe Clérié : > On Tuesday 28 July 2009 04:48:25 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> Yes, if deployers make very clear what is a priority for them and >> do so in a compelling way, I'm sure volunteer developers will >> make their plans accordingly. > > Perhaps the highest priority should be a Li

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Philippe Clérié
On Tuesday 28 July 2009 04:48:25 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Yes, if deployers make very clear what is a priority for them and > do so in a compelling way, I'm sure volunteer developers will > make their plans accordingly. Perhaps the highest priority should be a Live CD/USB that is easily and reliabl

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
ion page. We may be further > along than we think. What about entering Feature pages? Or is that intended to happen only once we have a technical plan for the feature? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Policy Thanks, Tomeu > HTHs. Comments, corrections and additions welcom

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Greg Smith
m out. Then perhaps Simon, Tomeu et al can link to them from some Roadmap creation page. We may be further along than we think. HTHs. Comments, corrections and additions welcome. Thanks, Greg S Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:58:04 +0800 From: Bastien Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 14:58, Bastien wrote: > Tomeu Vizoso writes: > >> About having a person at every deployment, some months ago I started >> creating this list of contacts: >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Places > > Thanks for the reminder.  My idea was more to have only *o

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Bastien
Bastien writes: > Greg was answering requests from various horizons (cc'ing Greg to this > thread.) (Oops, I forgot to Cc Greg, sorry!) -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Bastien
Tomeu Vizoso writes: > About having a person at every deployment, some months ago I started > creating this list of contacts: > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Places Thanks for the reminder. My idea was more to have only *one* person in Sugar responsible to get/filter/dispatch d

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 14:43, Bastien wrote: > Caroline Meeks writes: > >> I personally don't hear the voice of the XO deployments saying what is >> needed for them. > > When I was in Haiti, being able to interact with Greg was really > helpful.  I knew there was someone I could nag about things

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Bastien
Caroline Meeks writes: > I personally don't hear the voice of the XO deployments saying what is > needed for them. When I was in Haiti, being able to interact with Greg was really helpful. I knew there was someone I could nag about things that bothered me with the XOs and Sugar, and I knew he'd

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Caroline Meeks
Great thread! Personally I feel very heard by the development team. I personally don't hear the voice of the XO deployments saying what is needed for them. I admit i have limited time and so I focus on things that are relevent to SoaS but I still would have expected to be interacting with people

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:24:13PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: > However, I feel like it could be better if the community (who I > might even stretch to call "customers") could have more influence. > [...] What are the options for the community having more of an > influence here? Influence on who

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[adding IAEP to cc] On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:39, Daniel Drake wrote: > quoting Tomeu from another thread (with no bad feelings at all): > > "Sugar Labs has currently no resources to focus on anything, it > depends on volunteers doing whatever they want. I chose to spend my > time to make easier

[Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Daniel Drake
quoting Tomeu from another thread (with no bad feelings at all): "Sugar Labs has currently no resources to focus on anything, it depends on volunteers doing whatever they want. I chose to spend my time to make easier for more people to bring their knowledge and experience to Sugar and the communit