Hi, everybody.
Like Daniel, I'm from Uruguay and I feel identified with the Walter message.
I'm fourteen years old, and I started using sugar when I was ten, when I
receive my XO was the first time that I used linux and it liked me a lot.
About the young programmers:
I was a student of Flavio Dane
2012/9/23 Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez :
> Hi, everybody.
> Like Daniel, I'm from Uruguay and I feel identified with the Walter message.
Hi Agustin!
> I'm fourteen years old, and I started using sugar when I was ten, when I
> receive my XO was the first time that I used linux and it liked me a lot.
>
>
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:53 PM, S. Daniel Francis
wrote:
> 2012/9/23 Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez :
>> About the young programmers:
>> I was a student of Flavio Danesse, and he taught me a lot but for obvious
>> reasons I had to appeal the internet to found more information, where the
>> most are in
2012/9/23 Chris Leonard :
> I would love to see more of the Spanish-only activities
> present in ASLO take this step to i18n so that they can be used by
> other XO kids around the world in their mother tongues.
A good way would be if the ASLO editors request the authors to
internationalize their a
Hello Agustin from the US :)
--- On Sun, 9/23/12, Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez wrote:
From: Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18
To: "Gonzalo Odiard"
Cc: "James Simmons" , "iaep" ,
"Sugar-dev Devel" ,
community-n...@lists.sugarlabs.org, "S. Daniel Fra
--- On Sun, 9/23/12, S. Daniel Francis wrote:
> From: S. Daniel Francis
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18
> To: "Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez"
> Cc: "iaep" , "Sugar-dev Devel"
> , community-n...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> Date: Sunday, September 23, 2012, 3:53 PM
> 2012/9/23
> but where I worked, it was like this:
> #!/usr/bin/python
> # questo è il modo in cui il punteggio di corrispondenza viene calcolato
> partida = calcio101+calcio02
Ciao Mondo! :)
# Just regarding the Sugar Paint activity mixes English and Portuguese
of its original maintainers. Now
# with all th
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 02:19:38PM -0700, Kevin Mark wrote:
> We need to 'clone' this person, we need more who can do what he is
> doing!
Find out from this person what hindered them, and remove that
hindrance from others? ;-)
--
James Cameron
http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>
>
> # Just regarding the Sugar Paint activity mixes English and Portuguese
> of its original maintainers. Now
> # with all the changes and patches it conserves only some words,
> specially file names like "desenho"
> # instead design.
>
>
Paint activity was developed by a Brazilian team and a lot
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 07:53:35PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> Paint activity was developed by a Brazilian team and a lot of variables
> had Portuguese names.
> Whit the time, we changed a lot, but there are a few pending.
It is irritating that we still store source code in linear text files
wi
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Kevin Mark wrote:
> They are both 'python' but most programmers are not going to be able to debug
> the 2nd example easily.
> --
> Making all the comments and the variable names in Spanish is not what I
> expect for sugarlabs but mayb
2012/9/23 James Cameron :
> It is irritating that we still store source code in linear text files
> without built-in internationalisation.
> As you change these names, they become far less useful to programmers
> who use that language.
>
> The development system would be more open and inclusive if
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 09:14:41PM -0300, S. Daniel Francis wrote:
> 2012/9/23 James Cameron :
> > It is irritating that we still store source code in linear text files
> > without built-in internationalisation.
> > As you change these names, they become far less useful to programmers
> > who use t
2012/9/23 James Cameron :
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 09:14:41PM -0300, S. Daniel Francis wrote:
>> 2012/9/23 James Cameron :
>> > It is irritating that we still store source code in linear text files
>> > without built-in internationalisation.
>> > As you change these names, they become far less use
Now I know, I should stop reading this thread :)
Gonzalo
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 8:40 PM, James Cameron wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 07:53:35PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> > Paint activity was developed by a Brazilian team and a lot of variables
> > had Portuguese names.
> > Whit the ti
--- On Sun, 9/23/12, S. Daniel Francis wrote:
> From: S. Daniel Francis
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18
> To: "James Cameron"
> Cc: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> Date: Sunday, September 23, 2012, 9:24 PM
> 2012/9/23 James Cameron :
> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 0
El tema del idioma, tiene muchas aristas, (desde mi punto de vista), pero
en lo que refiere específicamente a enseñar a programar a los niños y
adolescentes, la cuestión está en que aprender un lenguaje de programación
es en si, aprender otro idioma, lo cual ya de por si es difícil para
cualquiera.
Flavio,
Estoy de acuerdo que para enseñar programación, agregar la problemática de
comprender otro idioma a la de comprender el lenguaje de programación en
si, no tiene demasiado sentido.
Lo que si creo que tiene sentido, y esto tu y yo lo hemos hablado varias
veces, pero como has dado tu punto de
Hola Flavio, I think you gave many excellent reasons for using Spanish, which
is what i was saying. So I agree. I was recalling something about the OLPC
project in Haiti. They have 2 'officlal' languages: Kreyol and French. 99% of
the country learns Kreyol but the upper class/government know F
--- On Mon, 9/24/12, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
From: Gonzalo Odiard
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18
To: "Flavio Danesse"
Cc: "Kevin Mark" , sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org,
"James Cameron" , "S. Daniel Francis"
Date: Monday, September 24, 2012, 1:08 AM
Flavio,Estoy de
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 02:08:03AM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> I agree with you when you say, to teach programming, add the need to
> learn a foreign language to the fact of learning the programming
> language, does not have too much sense.
I couldn't read what Flavio said, but I agree that hav
> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:40:13 +1000
> From: qu...@laptop.org
> To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 02:08:03AM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> > I agree with you when you say, to teach programming, add the ne
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