Re: [biofuel] Cellulose Conversion

2001-03-26 Thread skaar
oui. robert luis rabello wrote: > > > Warren Rekow wrote: > > > This site may be of interest: > > http://encarta.msn.com/index/conciseindex/3c/03c78000.htm > > -- > > ...Warren Rekow > > > > Yikes!!! > > robert luis rabello > > >Yahoo! Groups Sponsor [Classmates.com]

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose Conversion

2001-03-26 Thread skaar
phone number? me like phone numbers, please can i have it, i like the smell, and i can sell alcohol fuel to pay for my phone number habit. robert luis rabello wrote: > > > Keith Addison wrote: > > > That IS expensive! But ethanol from cellulose is made on a > > small-medium scale using acid hyd

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose Conversion

2001-03-16 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Robert >Keith Addison wrote: > > > That IS expensive! But ethanol from cellulose is made on a > > small-medium scale using acid hydrolosis, in Brazil and in Indonesia, > > that I know of, maybe elsewhere too. So there must be a way. > >There are at least two companies here in B.C. that are

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose Conversion

2001-03-16 Thread robert luis rabello
Warren Rekow wrote: > This site may be of interest: > http://encarta.msn.com/index/conciseindex/3c/03c78000.htm > -- > ...Warren Rekow > Yikes!!! robert luis rabello Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> Make good on the promise you made at graduation

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose Conversion

2001-03-16 Thread Warren Rekow
Robert said: > The other avenue is considerably more ambitious. I've thought of MAKING >my own acid in the same manner that I make my own sodium hydroxide--that is, >mixing water with sulfur and bubbling some air through it. I'm not sure this >will work either. Perhaps someone on the list w

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose Conversion

2001-03-15 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: > That IS expensive! But ethanol from cellulose is made on a > small-medium scale using acid hydrolosis, in Brazil and in Indonesia, > that I know of, maybe elsewhere too. So there must be a way. There are at least two companies here in B.C. that are working on the pro

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose Conversion

2001-03-15 Thread Keith Addison
>Is anyone out there bothering with cellulose to sugar conversion? >I've been looking into the process, and after struggling to find a >supplier for sulfuric acid, was stunned to discover that sulfuric acid >is EXPENSIVE! > >The company that quoted me stated that 2.5 liters of 18 molar >su

[biofuel] Cellulose Conversion

2001-03-13 Thread robert luis rabello
Is anyone out there bothering with cellulose to sugar conversion? I've been looking into the process, and after struggling to find a supplier for sulfuric acid, was stunned to discover that sulfuric acid is EXPENSIVE! The company that quoted me stated that 2.5 liters of 18 molar sulfuric

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose conversion

2000-11-07 Thread Eric Deaver
I should have lab data back today on cellulose/lignin/starch composition of horse manure.  There is no glucose (or sugar of any type) present in horse manure.   Eric eGroups Sponsor Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, sen

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose conversion

2000-11-07 Thread Keith Addison
>Hey, Guys. > > Just a little mental rambling, but as certain insects, and possibly >animals, are capable of digesting cellulose (i.e. termites) might it be >possible to devise a biological method of breaking down cellulose? I >really have no idea, but this is a forum with a lot of available

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose conversion

2000-11-07 Thread thomasjumper
Hey, Guys. Just a little mental rambling, but as certain insects, and possibly animals, are capable of digesting cellulose (i.e. termites) might it be possible to devise a biological method of breaking down cellulose? I really have no idea, but this is a forum with a lot of available knowl

[biofuel] Cellulose conversion

2000-11-06 Thread DAVID REID
Re Cellulose conversion for those who are interested. This is certainly an area we could and should focus on.The main problems with cellulose fermentation as I am sure you are aware arethe lignin problem and the fermentation of hexose and pentose sugars.If you have not read the Process Overv

[biofuel] Cellulose conversion ref url

2000-11-06 Thread DAVID REID
Eric, John, Stephen Lakios, et al    My apologies. After a weekend trying to help people one gets alittle jaded.Link: http://www.pyr.ec.gc.ca/ep/wet/section16.htmlThis is a very good overview and will help you to understand the basics ofthe various commercial processes.B.r.,  David-O

[biofuel] Cellulose conversion contd

2000-11-05 Thread DAVID REID
Eric, John etc, If you want to learn more about cellulose conversion go to the following site below and read the Wood Ethanol Report: Process Overview (17 pages)  which covers broad aspects of thje various processes for the main players for the propsed BC IC Ethanol Pro

[biofuel] Cellulose conversion

2000-11-05 Thread DAVID REID
John, Eric etc, I certainly agree with you John. We need more discussion and input from others on this subject. There is a lot of information and disinformation out there some of it due to reader misconception particularly when talking about acid hydrolysis. One needs t

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose Conversion

2000-11-04 Thread DAVID REID
luck with your efforts. B.r., David -Original Message- From: Eric Deaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@egroups.com Date: Saturday, November 04, 2000 3:00 PM Subject: [biofuel] Cellulose Conversion >OK, I have read the part of the ethanol manual on cellulose >conversion.

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose Conversion

2000-11-04 Thread Steve Spence
03, 2000 8:59 PM Subject: [biofuel] Cellulose Conversion > OK, I have read the part of the ethanol manual on cellulose > conversion. Can someone point me in the direction of more detail on > the processes used in converting cellulose (with low lignin content) > to glucose? A

[biofuel] Cellulose Conversion

2000-11-04 Thread Eric Deaver
OK, I have read the part of the ethanol manual on cellulose conversion. Can someone point me in the direction of more detail on the processes used in converting cellulose (with low lignin content) to glucose? Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Eric Deaver Biofuel at Journey to Foreve