[OSM-talk] (no subject)

2019-04-07 Thread Shreyansh Jain
Please unsubscribe my email. Regards ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread john whelan
This is good we have a quality control mechanism even if it is a blunt instrument, and we think the risk is low on the TRA side. Thank you for your input. Cheerio John On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 19:07, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 07/04/2019 23:37, john whelan wrote: > > > Developing an editor require

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/04/2019 23:37, john whelan wrote: > Developing an editor requires making decisions and having opinions on OSM tagging. This in turn means getting it wrong sometimes. ... With something like iD spoon feeding new mappers with suggested presets the impact is much greater if something isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread john whelan
> Developing an editor requires making decisions and having opinions on OSM tagging. This in turn means getting it wrong sometimes. There is a concept of Threat Risk Assessment which more or less says to manage risk you take into account the impact if it goes wrong. If we have individual mappers

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Paul Norman via talk
JOSM has also done the same, and gone farther with creating new tags on its issue tracker.Developing an editor requires making decisions and having opinions on OSM tagging. This in turn means getting it wrong sometimes.On Apr 7, 2019 5:43 AM, John Whelan wrote: I note that the matter has been rai

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Apr 7, 2019, 2:43 PM by jwhelan0...@gmail.com : > I suspect ID is a much more closed environment.  > (...) > > Thoughts ladies and gentlemen? > Have you tried opening issue on iD bugtracker? See https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:48 PM john whelan wrote: > Tagging is not always easy, highways in Africa are an example. See a dirt > track in Europe and its probably a highway=track. In Africa it probably > isn't. > A "road is a highway" is confusing because the word "highway" has a different meani

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Now while everybody is free to use any tag she likes, I would not > expect the OpenStreetMap-Foundation standard editor to > introduce new tags through presets. It's been happening since Potlatch 1 came online in 2007, so you should have had a few years to get used

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread john whelan
and I think this is precisely my concern. Tagging is not always easy, highways in Africa are an example. See a dirt track in Europe and its probably a highway=track. In Africa it probably isn't. Cheerio John On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 11:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > >

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread john whelan
>John - did you look at Github issue 2776 [1] that discussed Semi-Detached? I've never tagged a semi-detached house, but iD offers it as a preset. I don't normally use iD but you must explain to me where iD offers it as a preset since I was unable to spot it. Stats Canada's project to map buildin

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Tomas Straupis
2019-04-07, sk, 19:06 Bryce Jasmer rašė: > The wiki page for landuse=reservoir says: > "Description: Ambiguous and better alternatives exist, see water=reservoir" > So, is iD wrong to use this, or is the wiki incorrect? Wiki is incorrect. Even "creator" of "everything blue is natural=water" agre

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 5:44 AM John Whelan wrote: > I note that the matter has been raised in talk-de and mentioned in osm > weekly. > > Tagging is not always easy, but I do have concerns when iD is so commonly > used but the recommended tags do not align with OpenStreetMap I'll say > normals. >

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Bryce Jasmer
The wiki page for landuse=reservoir says: "Description: Ambiguous and better alternatives exist, see water=reservoir" So, is iD wrong to use this, or is the wiki incorrect? On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:24 AM Tomas Straupis wrote: > 2019-04-07, sk, 17:47 Bryce Jasmer rašė: > > Can you give some exa

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Apr 2019, at 16:44, Bryce Jasmer wrote: > > Can you give some examples of what the OSM normals are and how iD differs > from them? from time to time the iD developers don’t like the established tagging and prefer to make iD tagging presets for new tags which they

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Tomas Straupis
2019-04-07, sk, 17:47 Bryce Jasmer rašė: > Can you give some examples of what the OSM normals are and how iD differs > from them? There is no way (other than writing tags directly) to tag reservoirs as landuse=reservoir (original and still wider used water tagging scheme), iD insists on natural

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Bryce Jasmer
Can you give some examples of what the OSM normals are and how iD differs from them? Is there a bug against iD not showing semi-detached house? Can you provide the link(s) to the bug(s) so we can read what the discussion/rationale is for not showing it? As for a building tool, is there any eviden

[OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread John Whelan
I note that the matter has been raised in talk-de and mentioned in osm weekly. Tagging is not always easy, but I do have concerns when iD is so commonly used but the recommended tags do not align with OpenStreetMap I'll say normals. Specifically one of my concerns is a semi-detached house is

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #454 2019-03-26-2019-04-01

2019-04-07 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 454, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/11846/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to ht