On 5/28/2018 6:30 AM, Hans Åberg via
Unicode wrote:
Unifying these would make a real mess of lower casing!
German has a special sign ß for "ss", without upper capital version.
You may want to retract the second part of
that
On Mon, 28 May 2018 15:30:55 +0200
Hans Åberg via Unicode wrote:
> > On 28 May 2018, at 15:10, Richard Wordingham via Unicode
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 28 May 2018 10:08:30 +0200
> > Hans Åberg via Unicode wrote:
> >
> >> It is not about precision, but concepts. Like B, Β, and В, which
> >
> On 28 May 2018, at 15:10, Richard Wordingham via Unicode
> wrote:
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> On Mon, 28 May 2018 10:08:30 +0200
> Hans Åberg via Unicode wrote:
>
>> It is not about precision, but concepts. Like B, Β, and В, which
>> could have been unified, but are not.
>
> Unifying these would make a real mess
On Mon, 28 May 2018 10:08:30 +0200
Hans Åberg via Unicode wrote:
> > On 28 May 2018, at 03:39, Garth Wallace wrote:
> > The fact that they do not denote the same width in cents in Arabic
> > music as they do in Western modern classical does not matter. That
> > sort of precision is not inherent
> On 28 May 2018, at 11:05, Julian Bradfield via Unicode
> wrote:
>
> On 2018-05-28, Hans Åberg via Unicode wrote:
>>> On 28 May 2018, at 03:39, Garth Wallace wrote:
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
The flats and sharps of Arabic music are semantically the same as
On 2018-05-28, Hans Åberg via Unicode wrote:
>> On 28 May 2018, at 03:39, Garth Wallace wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>>> The flats and sharps of Arabic music are semantically the same as in
>>> Western music, departing from Pythagorean tuning, then, but the micr
> On 28 May 2018, at 03:39, Garth Wallace wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
>> The flats and sharps of Arabic music are semantically the same as in Western
>> music, departing from Pythagorean tuning, then, but the microtonal
>> accidentals are different: they sim
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Hans Åberg wrote:
> The flats and sharps of Arabic music are semantically the same as in
> Western music, departing from Pythagorean tuning, then, but the microtonal
> accidentals are different: they simply reused some that were available.
But they aren't differ
The flats and sharps of Arabic music are semantically the same as in Western
music, departing from Pythagorean tuning, then, but the microtonal accidentals
are different: they simply reused some that were available. By contrast,
Persian music notation invented new microtonal accidentals, called
Thanks!
Le dim. 27 mai 2018 22:18, Garth Wallace a écrit :
> Philippe is entirely correct here. The fact that a symbol has somewhat
> different meanings in different contexts does not mean that it is actually
> multiple visually identical symbols. Otherwise Unicode would be re-encoding
> the Lat
Philippe is entirely correct here. The fact that a symbol has somewhat
different meanings in different contexts does not mean that it is actually
multiple visually identical symbols. Otherwise Unicode would be re-encoding
the Latin alphabet many, many times over.
During most of Bach's career, the
Even flat notes or rythmic and pause symbols in Western musical notations
have different contextual meaning depending on musical keys at start of
scores, and other notations or symbols added above the score. So their
interpretation are also variable according to context, just like tuning in
a Arabi
> On 17 May 2018, at 16:47, Garth Wallace via Unicode
> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM Hans Åberg wrote:
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> > On 17 May 2018, at 08:47, Garth Wallace via Unicode
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Hans Åberg via Unicode
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> It would be
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM Hans Åberg wrote:
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> > On 17 May 2018, at 08:47, Garth Wallace via Unicode
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Hans Åberg via Unicode <
> unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> It would be best to encode the SMuFL symbols, which is rather
> compre
> On 17 May 2018, at 08:47, Garth Wallace via Unicode
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Hans Åberg via Unicode
>> wrote:
>>
>> It would be best to encode the SMuFL symbols, which is rather comprehensive
>> and include those:
>> https://www.smufl what should be unified.org
>>
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Hans Åberg via Unicode <
unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
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> > On 16 May 2018, at 00:48, Ken Whistler via Unicode
> wrote:
> >
> > On 5/15/2018 2:46 PM, Markus Scherer via Unicode wrote:
> >> I am proposing the addition of 2 new characters to the Musical Symbols
> ta
> On 16 May 2018, at 09:42, Hans Åberg via Unicode wrote:
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>> On 16 May 2018, at 00:48, Ken Whistler via Unicode
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A proposal should also show evidence of usage and glyph variations.
>>
>> And should probably refer to the relationship between these signs and the
>> existing:
Hi Garth,
You are right, I sent a similar posting to the list 3 years ago. at that
time I was hoping get help from some of the more experienced members on the
list to write a proposal. this is a very specialized job and it could take
me months to figure out the process and learn the language. But
> On 16 May 2018, at 00:48, Ken Whistler via Unicode
> wrote:
>
> On 5/15/2018 2:46 PM, Markus Scherer via Unicode wrote:
>> I am proposing the addition of 2 new characters to the Musical Symbols table:
>>
>> - the half-flat sign (lowers a note by a quarter tone)
>> - the half-sharp sign (rai
What happened to the previous proposal? As I recall, there was some good
discussion after an email from you back in 2015 <
http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2015-m03/0118.html> and
Michael Everson offered assistance, but no formal proposal has been
submitted to the Documents Register sin
On 5/15/2018 2:46 PM, Markus Scherer via Unicode wrote:
I am proposing the addition of 2 new characters to the Musical
Symbols table:
- the half-flat sign (lowers a note by a quarter tone)
- the half-sharp sign (raises a note by a quarter tone)
In an actual proposal, I would
On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Johnny Farraj via Unicode <
unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
> Dear Unicode list members,
>
> I wish to get feedback about a new symbol submission proposal.
>
Just to clarify, this is a discussion list where you may get some useful
feedback. This is not where you woul
Dear Unicode list members,
I wish to get feedback about a new symbol submission proposal.
Currently the Miscellaneous Symbols table (2600-26FF) includes the
following characters:
266D ♭ MUSIC FLAT SIGN
266F ♯ MUSIC SHARP SIGN
while the Musical Symbols table (1D100 - 1D1FF) includes the followin
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