Re: DP, RC, GM, Stable and tree diagrams

On 11/13/2014 11:51 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: > For us bottom-feeders it might be easier to understand why, for > instance, 7.0.1 started with RC (release candidates) while 7.0.0 > started with DP (developer previews) Ben added definitions for DP, RC, and Stable at the top of t

Re: can't put into field by id?

I think what the good doctor wanted to do was this: on mouseUp put "xx" into myVar put the long id of fld (word 1 of myVar) into theFld do "put gizmo into" && theFld end mouseUp Now "gizmo" is placed into, er, the field Craig put the long id of fld (word 1 of myVar) into theFld put "g

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:10 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I blame myself for the omissions (except when Richard G. forgives me.) :) "Bless me Richard, for I have sinned. It has been two weeks since my last bug report. Since then I wrote three undocumented functions and one 80-line behemoth that

Re: itemDel not resetting on entering routines?

LOL Better you than me. :-) We've all embarrassed ourselves here, it's sort of an initiation thing. On November 13, 2014 7:27:20 PM CST, "Dr. Hawkins" wrote: >On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:26 PM, J. Landman Gay > >wrote: > >> On 11/13/2014, 5:42 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> >>> In many of my handlers

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > I just tried it under 7.0 and same result - no problems with or without the > semicolon. There must be something else going on in Dr Hawkins code. > The ones I posted today were typed into the message box! -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq

Re: itemDel not resetting on entering routines?

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 11/13/2014, 5:42 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > >> In many of my handlers, I have to set the itemDelimiter explicitly to tab, >> whereas it is*supposed* to be local to the handler, and be reset on exit. >> > > I'm not sure I understand. The d

Re: hair-pulling frustration

I just tried it under 7.0 and same result - no problems with or without the semicolon. There must be something else going on in Dr Hawkins code. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin

Re: itemDel not resetting on entering routines?

On 11/13/2014, 5:42 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: In many of my handlers, I have to set the itemDelimiter explicitly to tab, whereas it is*supposed* to be local to the handler, and be reset on exit. I'm not sure I understand. The default delimiter is comma so it's normal to have to reset it to tab a

Re: can't put into field by id?

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > You could rewrite the code so that the variable portion contains only the > short name, e.g.: > >put "gizmo" into field theFld > in 7.0 RC21, this yiuelds, "button "scr_output": execution error at line 5814 (Chunk: no such object),

Re: can't put into field by id?

By saying this: put "gizmo" into theFld You're telling LiveCode to put "gizmo" into the theFld variable, not into the field you referenced earlier. This is standard behavior. Do this: set the text of theFld to "gizmo" Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design > On Nov 13

Re: can't put into field by id?

Dr. Hawkins wrote: With a sequence like, put the long id of fld (word 1 of myVar) into theFld put "gizmo" into theFld I end up with "gizmo" in the variable theFld, rather than the field it references. Am I doing something wrong, or does this just not work for fields (7.0-RC2) I believe that'

can't put into field by id?

With a sequence like, put the long id of fld (word 1 of myVar) into theFld put "gizmo" into theFld I end up with "gizmo" in the variable theFld, rather than the field it references. Am I doing something wrong, or does this just not work for fields (7.0-RC2) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702)

Re: Could not compile application class

Nope, only iPhone checked. I went back to 6.6.5 and it compiled fine, so the error only happens in LC6.7 and LC 7. Odd, hopefully its just a one off and will work itself out somehow, its only happening in one app, everything else compiles fine. Thanks Andy > On 13 Nov 2014, at 17:47, N

itemDel not resetting on entering routines?

I've seen this in the past, too. In many of my handlers, I have to set the itemDelimiter explicitly to tab, whereas it is *supposed* to be local to the handler, and be reset on exit. I've seen this in both 5 & 7, although it just bit in a routine that worked in 5 while I'm using 7. -- Dr. Richa

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Alex Tweedly wrote: It would seem "touchy-feely" for there to be more response on this list from RR. I tend to feel the same, but as with so many things it's a balancing act - after all, one of the reasons we want them here is to tell them to go away so they can spend their time fixing bugs.

Re: This'll make you tear your hair out by the roots

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:17 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I just read that within 12 hours of the report, Yahoo's servers were hit > with this exploit. My initial reaction is that anyone running windows on a server deserves whatever happens. But I thought that it said that this was a word/exce

Time to rename the red dots to "PCD"s

For Pirate Code Dots . . . :( This is maddening. -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Neil Roger wrote: > Both the inclusion and exclusion of the semi-colon return data as > expected. If possible, could you supply a stack for me to test with and I > will happily look into this further. I'll see what I can pop together. And now, I am getting an

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Note to self : I am *not* getting involved in this thread. I am *not* getting involved in this thread. I am *not* getting involved in this thread. I am *not* getting involved in this thread. I do *not* have time to read, never mind get involved in, this thread. :-) OK. Hav

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Richmond wrote: > What might do some good is point out to RunRev that when they > released their Open Source version of LiveCode they undertook > to be more "touchy-feely" and more responsive to their users > . . . and, just possibly, they may be falling short of this. Perhaps. What should "tou

Re: externals and QR code

On 14 Nov 2014, at 1:53 am, Pi Digital wrote: > Mergext has an excellent set of externals one of which is a qr reader. It is > very good and I used it recently for an event that used qr codes to register > bids by attendees. It's incredibly fast, especially on autofocus devices. Thanks Sean

Re: DP, RC, GM, Stable and tree diagrams

Richmond wrote: > For us bottom-feeders it might be easier to understand why, for > instance, 7.0.1 started with RC (release candidates) while 7.0.0 > started with DP (developer previews) Ben added definitions for DP, RC, and Stable at the top of the Downloads page:

Re: BBEdit Language Module for LiveCode

Bob Sneidar wrote: I am uncertain how this helps me code in Livecode. Am I missing something? I downloaded TextMate and the bundles and installed the bundles, but I do not see anything for Livecode. Is this just for RevIgniter? Bob S ___ use-liv

RE: hair-pulling frustration

Neil, With user input and Richard's moderating this thread has started to bear some fruit. After writing HW diagnostics for years I know how challenging is to come with thorough testing scenarios. I don't know what your QC process for databases is but might I suggest using challenging queries. I w

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/13/2014, 2:32 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote: I didn't mean to imply that the system is preventing you from entering any bugs; I'm saying that given your many years of experience and dedication to the platform if the system prevents you from entering even a single bug, that's bad. The thing is, I

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:06 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 11/13/2014, 1:50 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: > >> if the requirements are causing Jacque to fail to >> report a bug, that's a huge issue. >> > > Well, to be fair, it doesn't always prevent me from reporting things. If I > have time I do crea

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > revDataFromQuery(,,17,"SELECT * FROM vader_darth__001_dna;") > yields > Message execution error: > Error description: value: error executing expression > Hint: ") > > While if I leave out the semicolon, it gives me all the data in the tab

DP, RC, GM, Stable and tree diagrams

For us bottom-feeders it might be easier to understand why, for instance, 7.0.1 started with RC (release candidates) while 7.0.0 started with DP (developer previews) if RunRev could publish some sort of tree-diagram so we could get a better understanding of the relations and inter-relations betw

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Hi Richard, I've attempted to replicate the semicolon issue without any success. This could be why we have not come accross it during testing in-house. The script that I tested with is- global gConnectionID on mouseUp global gConnectionID if gConnectionID is not a number then ans

Re: This'll make you tear your hair out by the roots

I just read that within 12 hours of the report, Yahoo's servers were hit with this exploit. On 11/13/2014, 12:54 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: Thanks Richmond. +1 on this. I updated all my servers last night(a long night. I'm shot today). I encourage everyone to do the same. I'm checking now to make

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/13/2014, 12:20 PM, Richmond wrote: I believe there needs to be: 1. a set list of incentives on offer for bug detection. I wonder if it would be possible to extend a user's license for a short period after a certain number of verified bug reports has been submitted. For community editi

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > > "SELECT * FROM sometable;" worked before the change with SQLite. Now, > it > > is necessary to remove the semicolon. > > > > I just tried this using LC 5.5.4 (prior to the SQLite

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/13/2014, 2:27 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Really, why wouldn't it be realistic to pay a bunch of students for a few hours of beta-testing (or should I say alpha-testing) some time in a development cycle? There's no way a "few hours" would catch much in a system as complex and large as Li

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 11/13/2014, 1:50 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: if the requirements are causing Jacque to fail to report a bug, that's a huge issue. Well, to be fair, it doesn't always prevent me from reporting things. If I have time I do create an example stack, especially if my current work can't proceed witho

Re: This'll make you tear your hair out by the roots

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Richmond wrote: > Microsoft has patched a critical bug in its software that had existed for > 19 years. Well, the footnote text placement bug lasted *at least* 15 years. It was there in Word 1.0 (mac) and I had students bringing me printouts exhibiting it in w

RE: This'll make you tear your hair out by the roots

Thanks Richmond. +1 on this. I updated all my servers last night(a long night. I'm shot today). I encourage everyone to do the same. I'm checking now to make sure all the workstations were updated also. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Origi

This'll make you tear your hair out by the roots

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30019976 Microsoft has patched a critical bug in its software that had existed for 19 years. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: hair-pulling frustration

On 13/11/14 18:22, Richard Gaskin wrote: Software is complex stuff. I don't think it was a mistake for Tim Cook to suggest we upgrade our Apple devices to the latest software version which later bricked some phones, and I don't think it was a mistake for Kevin to suggest that we use the lat

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus

Thanks Richard - great explanation as usual! By the way, I am using some Unicode characters in menu items in Windows 7 (actually running on a Mac under Parallels) and sometimes I’ve noticed that they don’t “stick”, in that one can paste a Unicode character like the square root symbol into a men

Re: Could not compile application class

Hi Andrew, The could not "compile application class message" will genreally occur when you are trying to build for Android and there is a discrepancy in your Android SDK/Java setup. In your message you mention that you are trying to build for an iPhone so it could be that you have Android ch

RE: Could not compile application class

This is an error I have received for Android builds a couple of times. It is usually caused by an update to the Android SDK. Do you have the Android build checked? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [ma

Could not compile application class

Does anyone have any ideas when I get a messagebox with 'Could not compile application class’ in it when I try to save an app so I can deploy it on an iPhone, and at the same time I get a another window popping up saying I need Java runtime environment. Its frustrating as its only on one app,

Re: sound recording 6.7 and 7.0

Don't rely on Staff reading this forum (or any forum for that matter). They might do, but only if they are not under any pressure or have the inclination or see something interesting. If I were you Serge I would take the leap to go on to quality.livecode.com and fill out a report. If it is being wo

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Sean Cole wrote: I have a suggestion for this, having just read the entire thread. How about this approach (which is nothing new - Apple use a similar system and I personally have had much success with it). In the LiveCode app itself (both Commercial and Community) in the Help menu should be a

Re: sound recording 6.7 and 7.0

NO i think or hope Than reporting here Will be sufficient Just want someone from the staff to Tell me if it is a bug and when it Will be fixed Email par IPhone de Dr Serge BRAMI > Le 13 nov. 2014 à 11:34, Pi Digital a écrit : > > Have you filed a report on Bugzilla? > > Sean Cole > Pi Di

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Éric Miclo wrote: > I do agree that more testing (non automatic testing) should be made > before releasing a commercial product. > But I’m not sure RunRev will listen. > > When the CEO says: > "I really would urge everyone in our community to move to 7 as > soon as possible. We spent 18 months b

Re: Datagrid : showing a row by auto scrolling

If you are scrolling the datagrid you can use one of these two commands ScrollIndexIntoView - ScrollIndexIntoView pIndex - Scrolls the data grid so that the line associated with pIndex in the internal data array is in view. ScrollLineIntoView - ScrollLineIntoView pLine - Scrolls the data grid so

Re: hair-pulling frustration

HI Richard, I have a suggestion for this, having just read the entire thread. I too find it hard at times to get the time to even write here let alone fill out a report on Bugzilla. And then to go through the process of creating a recipe or sample stack. The reason for this is obvious, that like

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus

Graham Samuel wrote: > In the whole toolbar, all keyboard shortcuts must of course be > distinct, and are presumably not case sensitive. That was my silly > mistake. I made it because PC programs often have an underlined 'x' > in the 'Exit' menu item: this is not a keyboard shortcut but some > ot

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts in Menus

Just to say, of course I can't use 'x' as a keyboard shortcut in a 'File' menu, since there is nearly always an 'Edit' menu in the same toolbar which uses 'X' for 'Cut'. In the whole toolbar, all keyboard shortcuts must of course be distinct, and are presumably not case sensitive. That was my si

Re: externals and QR code

Mergext has an excellent set of externals one of which is a qr reader. It is very good and I used it recently for an event that used qr codes to register bids by attendees. It's incredibly fast, especially on autofocus devices. Sean Cole Pi Digital -- This message was sent from an iPhone, prob

externals and QR code

Hi list Could anyone be kind enough to recommend an external for an app built with LC for smartphones & tablets (both iOS and Android) to read QR codes ? Thanks in advance jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit thi

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Geoff Canyon wrote: > I'm just expressing frustration about barriers to reporting bugs. > For example, a login is required to file a bug... ...as it is for this list, which the bug system is being compared to. Just about any publicly-accessible venue that displays user-generated content will e

Re: sound recording 6.7 and 7.0

Have you filed a report on Bugzilla? Sean Cole Pi Digital -- This message was sent from an iPhone, probably because I'm out and about. Always contactable. Well, most of the time :/ > On 13 Nov 2014, at 06:04, Serge .Brami wrote: > > yes QT still come with yosemite > I hope LC is working on

Re: hair-pulling frustration

I'll give you 2 cents for that, Éric. I also don't think that RunRev will listen. Yet, I think a company should not rely on its user base for testing. A company can't blame its user base for not testing, if something appears not to work, but a user base can blame the company for delivering brok

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Hello, I do agree that more testing (non automatic testing) should be made before releasing a commercial product. But I’m not sure RunRev will listen. When the CEO says: "I really would urge everyone in our community to move to 7 as soon as possible. We spent 18 months building it and consider

Re: Datagrid : showing a row by auto scrolling

Yes, this will do the trick...thanks. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:00 AM, FlexibleLearning.com < ad...@flexiblelearning.com> wrote: > I would do this manually by setting the vScroll based on (LineNumber * > effective textHeight) - (6 *effective LineHeight)... > > on setScroll pLineNumber > put t

Re: hair-pulling frustration

Really, why wouldn't it be realistic to pay a bunch of students for a few hours of beta-testing (or should I say alpha-testing) some time in a development cycle? I'm sure they could detect the bugs that every other developer would detect right-away, but without frustrating those developers beca

Re: hair-pulling frustration

If this were a realistic option, Edinburgh would have permanent testing staff. The language, syntax and interaction permutations are simply too vast for any automated testing whether by machine or human. As Richard G says, ensure your own software is robust with each new version and log any issues.

RE: Datagrid : showing a row by auto scrolling

I would do this manually by setting the vScroll based on (LineNumber * effective textHeight) - (6 *effective LineHeight)... on setScroll pLineNumber put the effective textHeight of fld 1 into tLineHeight set the hilitedLines of fld "Family" to pLineNumber set the scroll of fld 1 to (pL