Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-08 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > > Some examples of marker-based and markerless AR: > http://researchguides.dartmouth.edu/c.php?g=59732&p=382860 > > From that page: As technology advances, how we interact with and learn within our environment holds almost unlimited potential

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-07 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: And a more specific question: in the video you linked to, how does the app > know the angle of the table the book is resting on? Does the book have two > RFIDs for triangulation, or does it calculate solely from what it knows > about the ima

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-06 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: This is probably thread drift but video playback is so 20th century. I had an old acquaintance pass through town and we caught up. He's working for a start up that's doing something similar to Google Glass. He had a demo unit to show me. The googles worked with any users phone

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-05 Thread Kay C Lan
This is probably thread drift but video playback is so 20th century. I had an old acquaintance pass through town and we caught up. He's working for a start up that's doing something similar to Google Glass. He had a demo unit to show me. The googles worked with any users phone (or iPod touch) but

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Talluto wrote: On Jun 4, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Besides, RunRev has already decided to support media playback on Linux. The only new question I'm raising here is whether it needs to wait for The Ultimate Widget, or could we please have a few lines of C++ to tide us over f

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jun 4, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Besides, RunRev has already decided to support media playback on Linux. The > only new question I'm raising here is whether it needs to wait for The > Ultimate Widget, or could we please have a few lines of C++ to tide us over > for the next

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Talluto wrote: > On Jun 4, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Already sold: RunRev is committed to delivering a player object >> for all supported platforms. > > Are you under the impression that they are not going to use native > hooks for each platform for video playback? Not at

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jun 4, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Already sold: RunRev is committed to delivering a player object for all > supported platforms. Are you under the impression that they are not going to use native hooks for each platform for video playback? Eg: AVFoundation for Mac, WMP for Win

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Talluto wrote: > On Jun 4, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > >> The key would (again) be to have things packaged so that the >> dependencies are installed as part of the processes, making >> it as easy as possible. > > This is what makes working with Linux for certain markets very > di

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jun 4, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > The key would (again) be to have things packaged so that the dependencies > are installed as part of the processes, making it as easy as possible. This is what makes working with Linux for certain markets very difficult. If LiveCode can make it

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jun 4, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Richmond wrote: > Isn't that rather like expecting Quicktime to be installed on all Windows and > Mac boxes? My guess is that, Windows Media Player will be the most logical *native* player for Windows in LiveCode 8. AVFoudation is the layer for Macs. What will the

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Mike Bonner
If things are packaged properly, and lc is added to repositories to use native installers (synaptic, rpm, yum, whatever..) dependencies fulfillment should be part of the process. Of course this means more manhours getting things set up to be packaged, and I don't think the mothership has many free

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Talluto wrote: > Native playback on all platforms would be fantastic. My guess is that > Mac and Win are going to be easier due to both OS having the blocks > to play with. Windows has had a native multimedia API for a long time, but last I read the API still in use in LC was deprecated mo

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Richmond
On 04/06/15 21:39, Mark Talluto wrote: On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: In fact, if I had basic playback with startTime for Windows and Linux as we have for OS X, I'd never need that fancy widget at all. It seems to me that Apple Devs were simply lucky with this one. When L

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > In fact, if I had basic playback with startTime for Windows and Linux as we > have for OS X, I'd never need that fancy widget at all. It seems to me that Apple Devs were simply lucky with this one. When LiveCode was forced to move to Cocoa,

Re: AW: AW: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Martin Koob wrote: > When the AVFoundation based player was being developed as a > replacement for the QTKit player I tested most of the features > of the player and submitted bug reports for anything that was > missing or not working correctly. The team was very good at > following up and ensuri

Re: AW: AW: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Richmond
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Re: AW: AW: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Martin Koob
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AW: AW: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
> Richmond wrote: > We don't need anything 'fancy': merely simple PLAY, PAUSE, STOP for video in a player object. > AND, the most important thing is that one doesn't have to spend hours fiddling around for different platforms. Here I don't agree at all. I am not sure, what you or Richard count to

Re: AW: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-03 Thread Richmond
On 03/06/15 20:53, Richard Gaskin wrote: Addendum to my last post: A quick search in Google for "LiveCode Roadmap" turned up the current URL in the first hit, and on that page we see under the "Widgets" column: Cross browser player object Use widget framework to wrap video playback on a

Re: AW: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-03 Thread Richmond
On 03/06/15 20:49, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: On 03/06/15 20:16, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: >> I didn't knew that the cross platform player will be a widget. >> Interesting to know. >> > You don't "know" as Martin Koob writes "From my understanding", > which, logically does NOT state th

Re: AW: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-03 Thread Martin Koob
d I agree it would be nice to get an update on the road map from LiveCode to show what has been completed and what is in the various threads. Martin -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/LiveCode-8-and-a-new-video-player-tp4692881p4692895.html Sent f

Re: AW: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Addendum to my last post: A quick search in Google for "LiveCode Roadmap" turned up the current URL in the first hit, and on that page we see under the "Widgets" column: Cross browser player object Use widget framework to wrap video playback on all platforms into a single object. That i

Re: AW: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: On 03/06/15 20:16, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: >> I didn't knew that the cross platform player will be a widget. >> Interesting to know. >> > You don't "know" as Martin Koob writes "From my understanding", > which, logically does NOT state that "the" cross-platform player > for LiveC

Re: AW: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-03 Thread Richmond
a cross-platform player, when that will happen, and its nature. Richmond. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Martin Koob Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Juni 2015 14:25 An: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: LiveCode 8 and

AW: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-03 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
v.com Betreff: Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player? Hi for the Mac the player that was based on QuickTime has already been replaced with a player based on AVFoundation. >From my understanding the cross platform player will be a widget which have made its debut in the LiveCode 8 DPs. My understa

Re: LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-03 Thread Martin Koob
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LiveCode 8 and a new video player?

2015-06-03 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
One of the extended goals of the LiveCode crowdfunding was to replace Quicktime by a new cross-platform video player. Last time I have asked, I was told that it should come with LC 8. The Quicktime installer is the hardest pain in customer issues for me. Since 6 years I have from time to time