Re: [whatwg] Proposal for Web Storage expiration

2010-07-29 Thread Paul Ellis
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Nicholas Zakas wrote: > setter creator void setItem(in DOMString key, in any data, [Optional] > in unsigned long ttl); > > > > The third argument is a TTL specifying how long, in milliseconds, the data > should be stored in sessionStorage/localStorage. Some p

Re: [whatwg] Two propositions for the autofocus attribute

2010-07-29 Thread Paul Ellis
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Kit Grose wrote: > > > > I agree with you both generally, but I disagree that there are no > > downsides. I imagine the main use-case where this sort of behaviour > > might be expected is a Javascript application which dy

Re: [whatwg] Adding ECMAScript 5 array extras to HTMLCollection

2010-07-29 Thread Garrett Smith
On 7/29/10, Ian Hickson wrote: > > The e-mails quoted below consist of the salient points of this thread: > > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, David Bruant wrote: >> [...] >> Or we can just leave the DOM as it is and get used to calling the >> equivalent of Prototype's $A() function. > > Before changing som

Re: [whatwg] Adding ECMAScript 5 array extras to HTMLCollection

2010-07-29 Thread Oliver Hunt
On Jul 29, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Alex Russell wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:04 AM, David Flanagan > wrote: >> Erik Arvidsson wrote: > > for (var i = 0, length = collection.length; i < length; i++) > // instead of: > for (var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) > Actua

Re: [whatwg] Adding ECMAScript 5 array extras to HTMLCollection

2010-07-29 Thread Alex Russell
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:04 AM, David Flanagan wrote: > Erik Arvidsson wrote: for (var i = 0, length = collection.length; i < length; i++) // instead of: for (var i = 0; i < collection.length; i++) >>> Actually, the former is a problem when the nodelist is modified in th

Re: [whatwg] An API to resize and rotate images client-side

2010-07-29 Thread Robert O'Callahan
Although I was kinda against adding canvas-2D to workers in the past, I think adding canvas, at least canvas-3D, to workers is going to be essential for advanced Web gaming to achieve steady frame rates, so I think we're going to be going there sooner or later. Rob -- "Now the Bereans were of mor

Re: [whatwg] Canvas: clarification of compositing operations needed

2010-07-29 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Oliver Hunt wrote: > This is the way the webkit canvas implementation has always worked, firefox > implemented this incorrectly, and the spec was based off of that > implementation. > I don't think "the spec was based off of that implementation" is true, since F

[whatwg] Headings and sections, role of H2-H6

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Jesse McCarthy wrote: > > I see why H2-H6 are retained for certain uses, but -- except in an HGROUP -- > there's no good reason to use H2-H6 when writing new code with explicitly > marked-up sections, is there? The only reason is backwards-compatibility with existing browsers.

[whatwg] Please consider adding "timeref" attribute to and elements

2010-07-29 Thread Tantek Çelik
Summary: add a new timeref attribute (of type idref) to and elements that can be used to reference the id of a local to document element which is then used as the datetime value of when the deletion or insertion occurred. Advantages: 1. encourage more visible data (dates in visible content insi

Re: [whatwg] img as a layout tool to describe the displayed region of a CSS background-image

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Ingo Chao wrote: > > http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-img-element "The img must > not be used as a layout tool. In particular, img elements should not be > used to display transparent images, as they rarely convey meaning and > rarely add anything useful to the

Re: [whatwg] link by name instead of url

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Eitan Adler wrote: > > Use case 1: > A document author wants to provide a link to some site. This site has > multiple versions of the page depending on where you live (think > google.co.uk, google.co.hk, google.com etc) > > Use case 2: > A document author wants to ask users to

Re: [whatwg] Canvas 2D Context Proposal: resetOriginClean

2010-07-29 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Charles Pritchard wrote: > There are some warnings in browsers for other security items: >  "This HTTPS Certificate is not valid, Continue / Cancel" That's recognized pretty universally as a horrible prompt that is actively bad for the user. > It does set a prec

Re: [whatwg] Ping + Ping-prefix meta element.

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Roger Hågensen wrote: > > Idea originally posted at > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409508 > > > > If the browser see this meta tag it will behave as if ping attribute was > applied to all externally leading hrefs with the prefix added to the > start. This

Re: [whatwg] Dealing with Stereoscopic displays

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Eoin Kilfeather wrote: > > I was wondering if any though had been given to a consistant way of > dealing with stereoscopic displays. A use case has come up in a project > I am working on which calls for the use of stereoscopic UIs but I can > find no metion of the term in e

Re: [whatwg] Adding ECMAScript 5 array extras to HTMLCollection

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
The e-mails quoted below consist of the salient points of this thread: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, David Bruant wrote: > > Make that HTMLCollection (and all HTML*Collection, as a consequence of > inheritence of HTMLCollection) inherit from the ECMAScript Array > prototype. This way, it will make avai

Re: [whatwg] Should scripts and plugins in contenteditable content be enabled or disabled?

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Simon Pieters wrote: > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 01:28:47 +0200, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > > > > See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=519928 > > > > Suppose we have a

Re: [whatwg] Canvas 2D Context Proposal: resetOriginClean

2010-07-29 Thread Charles Pritchard
On 7/29/2010 3:37 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010, Charles Pritchard wrote: There does not seem to be a standard method of requesting elevated permissions where local file access or cross-domain file access is required. Requesting permissions from whom? The user is not in a

Re: [whatwg] Canvas 2D Context Proposal: resetOriginClean

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010, Charles Pritchard wrote: > > There does not seem to be a standard method of requesting elevated > permissions where local file access or cross-domain file access is > required. Requesting permissions from whom? The user is not in any place to make educated decisions about s

Re: [whatwg] Form Validity Ambiguity - patternMismatch

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Joseph Pecoraro wrote: > > The section describing the pattern attribute does not explain that it > only applies to particular input types. > > However, one of the tables showing which content attributes apply to > which input types shows the pattern attribute only applies to

Re: [whatwg] Two propositions for the autofocus attribute

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Mounir Lamouri wrote: > > At the moment, the autofocus attribute specification [1] is quite > permissive: only one element should have the autofocus enabled in the > document but each time an element with autofocus is inserted into the > document, the UA should give it the

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 Input (Color)

2010-07-29 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Leonardo Dutra wrote: > Yes, nearly all programming langs were written and based on English. But > this is not a development tool, IDE or language... it's the presentation to > the non-dev user, and it should be easy and independant of language. Don't > stuck the u

[whatwg] Proposal for Web Storage expiration

2010-07-29 Thread Nicholas Zakas
Background: The Web Storage specification provides two ways for web applications to store key-value data in the browser, effectively replacing cookies for cases when the server doesn't need the information. For a lot of web application needs, sessionStorage and localStorage (or some combination

Re: [whatwg] Canvas: clarification of compositing operations needed

2010-07-29 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Gregg Tavares (wrk) wrote: > #1) Get rid of the "infinite transparent black bitmap" stuff and change it > to something that say only pixels inside the shape/image are effected Like Ian said before, this is fine as soon as someone defines precisely what pixels are

Re: [whatwg] Canvas: clarification of compositing operations needed

2010-07-29 Thread Gregg Tavares (wrk)
Even Firefox's implementation is inconsistent. drawShape uses the "infinite transparent black bitmap" but drawImage does not. I believe even many at Mozilla would like Firefox to switch to the Chrome/Safari method because it's more easily GPU accelerated. In that direction it would be nice if 2

Re: [whatwg] Canvas: clarification of compositing operations needed

2010-07-29 Thread David Flanagan
Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:39 PM, David Flanagan wrote: James Robinson wrote: For example, I think drawing a 20x20 image into a 500x500 canvas without scaling with a globalCompositeOperation of 'copy' should result in only the 20x20 region being cleared out, not the entir

Re: [whatwg] Canvas: clarification of compositing operations needed

2010-07-29 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Leonardo Dutra wrote: > But this is not the point. > "Composite A within the clipping region over the current canvas bitmap using > the current composition operator." > The word "clipping" is the point. No, clipping is not the point either. The difference between

Re: [whatwg] Canvas: clarification of compositing operations needed

2010-07-29 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:39 PM, David Flanagan wrote: > James Robinson wrote: >> For example, I think >> drawing a 20x20 image into a 500x500 canvas without scaling with a >> globalCompositeOperation of 'copy' should result in only the 20x20 region >> being cleared out, not the entire canvas. >

Re: [whatwg] Canvas: clarification of compositing operations needed

2010-07-29 Thread Leonardo Dutra
People have a very strong feeling about Firefox. This is beautiful, but not good to it. Firefox is now, over the Windows 7 and Mac, the slowest browser. Just pick some JavaScripts and test. XUL is the most hard way for builting an extension and Firefox eats CPU when we run any game built using HTML

Re: [whatwg] Questions about script attributes in HTML5

2010-07-29 Thread Henri Sivonen
Aryeh Gregor wrote: > > Quote: > > "The defer and async attributes must not be specified if the src > > attribute > > is not present." > > Do it mean "if the src attribute is not present, the defer and async > > attributes can be not used" ? (English is not my native language, :) > > ) > > Yes. I

Re: [whatwg] appCache manifest file

2010-07-29 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:10:53 +0200, Zi Bin Cheah wrote: Why did we want to use a new file extension .manifest in appcache. Wouldn't it be better to to just use a XML file instead, one benefit is eliminating the requirement of specifying MIME type in .htaccess. XML would be much too complex

[whatwg] appCache manifest file

2010-07-29 Thread Zi Bin Cheah
Why did we want to use a new file extension .manifest in appcache. Wouldn't it be better to to just use a XML file instead, one benefit is eliminating the requirement of specifying MIME type in .htaccess. Regards, Zi Bin Cheah / 谢子斌 Web Evangelist / Developer Relations / Site Compatibility

Re: [whatwg] [html5] r4949 - [giow] (0) The CSS rules need to do attribute value matching consistently across [...]

2010-07-29 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:32:13 +0200, Ian Hickson wrote: I've been working under the assumption that we want to eradicate as many differences between XHTML and HTML as possible, and that there's virtually no compatibility constraint on the XHTML side. If this is an area where we should keep th

Re: [whatwg] Changing punctuation value of input element in telephone state

2010-07-29 Thread Mounir Lamouri
On 07/29/2010 12:08 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: >> Other than that, the only safe alternative would be to leave the values >> untouched, so the page can say what it wants, the user honor it, and the >> server get it as expected; or gracefully degrade to an error message >> that actually points to the