Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Bruce Lawson
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:08:33 -, Cory Sand wrote: Hi, can I ask the purpose of the div in marking up the comment text? Is it just for styling/positioning? yes. -- Bruce Lawson Open standards evangelist Developer Relations Team Opera http://dev.opera.com

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Cory Sand
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Bruce Lawson wrote: > . > > On my own blog, which also uses for comments, I'm considering > changing it from > > > comment by Fred on 12 Dec at 4.52 > comment text > > > into > > > Fred said on 12 Dec at 4.52 > comment text > > > Hi, can I ask the purpose of

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Steve Faulkner
Hi Mathias, >Comments on blog posts, or forum posts. how is it useful? what does the use of article provide in this case over other markup? why not section or list? who are the consumers of the semantics? regards SteveF On 15 January 2013 14:44, Mathias Bynens wrote: > On 15 Jan 2013, at 1

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Mathias Bynens
On 15 Jan 2013, at 10:57, Steve Faulkner wrote: > Can anyone point me to or provide use cases for untitled article and > section elements? Comments on blog posts, or forum posts. > as in who are the potential consumers of document outlines with untitled > sections? This is a different question

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2013-01-15 15:44, Steve Faulkner wrote: this example: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/377471/article.html results in this outline: what is the use of the untitle articles? Example of article use from HTML 5.1 spec Bacon on a crowbar Untitled ARTICLE Unti

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Steve Faulkner
thanks, makes more sense (i think) On 15 January 2013 14:08, Bruce Lawson wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:44:44 -, Steve Faulkner > wrote: > > >> >> what is the use of the untitled articles? >> >> or of the 133 untitled articles on >> http://html5doctor.com/designing-a-blog-with-html5/ >> >>

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Bruce Lawson
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:44:44 -, Steve Faulkner wrote: what is the use of the untitled articles? or of the 133 untitled articles on http://html5doctor.com/designing-a-blog-with-html5/ what is the use case for using in this case over the use of other markup such as lists? I can't ans

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Steve Faulkner
bruce wrote: > I don't understand the question sorry this example: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/377471/article.html results in this outline: what is the use of the untitle articles? Example of article use from HTML 5.1 spec Bacon on a crowbar Untitled ARTICLE

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Bruce Lawson
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:59:01 -, Steve Faulkner wrote: bruce wrote: Can anyone point me to or provide use cases for untitled article and section elements? those in which the heading is to be injected via script Ok so in a a rendered page or outline? I don't understand the question

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Ian Yang
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > 2013-01-15 14:15, Ian Yang wrote: > > > The one came into my mind is blog comments, which are often > >> coded using untitled s. But personally I think that is wrong >> because every sectioning element should have a heading. >> > > Using h

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2013-01-15 14:15, Ian Yang wrote: > The one came into my mind is blog comments, which are often coded using untitled s. But personally I think that is wrong because every sectioning element should have a heading. Using headings is generally a very good authoring principle, but there are excep

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Bruce Lawson
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:57:45 -, Steve Faulkner wrote: Can anyone point me to or provide use cases for untitled article and section elements? those in which the heading is to be injected via script -- Bruce Lawson Open standards evangelist Developer Relations Team Opera http://dev.op

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Ian Yang
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > 2013-01-15 11:57, Steve Faulkner wrote: > > Can anyone point me to or provide use cases for untitled article and >> section elements? >> > > The example that first comes into my mind is a discussion forum where > contributions (which woul

Re: [whatwg] use cases for untitled article and section elements

2013-01-15 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2013-01-15 11:57, Steve Faulkner wrote: Can anyone point me to or provide use cases for untitled article and section elements? The example that first comes into my mind is a discussion forum where contributions (which would appear to match the idea) can be posted, and are usually posted, wi