[WikiEN-l] Wikimedia Research Newsletter launched

2011-07-27 Thread Dario Taraborelli
(* cross-posting *) We are glad to announce the inaugural issue of the Wikimedia Research Newsletter [1], a new monthly survey of recent scholarly research about Wikimedia projects. This is a joint project of the Signpost [2] and the Wikimedia Research Committee [3] and follows the publication

Re: [WikiEN-l] Article Feedback - Ramp up to 10% of Articles

2011-07-27 Thread Thomas Morton
> > The average is not very trustworthy. But the bar graph of how many > people have actually voted each score is a bit more interesting. If > it's bimodal, with two peaks, then that often tells you something. > > But the tool doesn't currently give you that, it probably should. > Yeh.. this why m

Re: [WikiEN-l] Article Feedback - Ramp up to 10% of Articles

2011-07-27 Thread Ian Woollard
On 27/07/2011, Thomas Morton wrote: > The issue I've noted is that it is being used as a "warfare" tool on > controversial articles. I've not seen it mentioned on a talk page yet; but > one contentious article (on a subject with a large online following, > entrenched *readers* on either side of th

Re: [WikiEN-l] Article Feedback - Ramp up to 10% of Articles

2011-07-27 Thread Thomas Morton
> > I'm cynical about this article feedback system for several reasons, > chiefly the worry that it could exacerbate the templating trend of > commenting on lots of articles rather than actually improving a few. > > I'm also slightly circumspect about the idea (though not outright opposed or anythi

Re: [WikiEN-l] Article Feedback - Ramp up to 10% of Articles

2011-07-27 Thread WereSpielChequers
Actually there are a number of other tests we need to run before we know whether Article Rating really is a net positive or a net negative. I hoped they would compare the 100,000 with a control sample to see which gets more edits: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Talk:Article_feedback/Is_thi

Re: [WikiEN-l] Scale of online resources, was Re: Rating the English wikipedia

2011-07-27 Thread Charles Matthews
On 27/07/2011 08:49, Ray Saintonge wrote: > On 07/26/11 3:13 AM, Charles Matthews wrote: >> On 20/07/2011 10:17, Ray Saintonge wrote: >>> I missed reading this thread when it was active, but my own estimate of >>> what still needs to be done in historical biographies alone is quite >>> high. >> Yes

Re: [WikiEN-l] Article Feedback - Ramp up to 10% of Articles

2011-07-27 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:08 AM, David Gerard wrote: > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/07/15/%e2%80%9crate-this-page%e2%80%9d-is-coming-to-the-english-wikipedia/ > "While these initial results are certainly encouraging, we need to > assess whether these editors are, in fact, improving Wikipedia

Re: [WikiEN-l] Article Feedback - Ramp up to 10% of Articles

2011-07-27 Thread David Gerard
On 27 July 2011 08:34, Ray Saintonge wrote: > On 07/16/11 4:42 PM, Dan Dascalescu wrote: >> After rating an article, there is this link asking "Did you know you >> could edit this page". > Just saying that is not enough to inspire people to edit. It turns out it is: http://blog.wikimedia.org/

Re: [WikiEN-l] Scale of online resources, was Re: Rating the English wikipedia

2011-07-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 07/26/11 3:13 AM, Charles Matthews wrote: > On 20/07/2011 10:17, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> I missed reading this thread when it was active, but my own estimate of >> what still needs to be done in historical biographies alone is quite >> high. > Yes, that is one area where the material seems avail

Re: [WikiEN-l] Article Feedback - Ramp up to 10% of Articles

2011-07-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 07/16/11 4:42 PM, Dan Dascalescu wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 02:28, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> On 07/14/11 5:56 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote: >>> Do we have stats yet that measure whether this is encouraging editing, >>> or diverting even more people from improving the pedia to critiquing >>>

Re: [WikiEN-l] Scale of online resources, was Re: Rating the English wikipedia

2011-07-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 07/20/11 4:23 AM, Carcharoth wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> I missed reading this thread when it was active, but my own estimate of >> what still needs to be done in historical biographies alone is quite >> high. > I agree, but some level of selectivity is ne