John Foliot, and Russ, good luck with the list.
All the best. Bye.
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Rick Faaberg wrote:
Where do we draw the line on these sites?
The reason why this did not happen before on the WSG mail list is
because no poster before did have problems in drawing a line for himself.
We should not change this unwritten agreement.
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russ wrote
you should warn members if you are providing a link that goes to
questionable, offensive or adult content.
Mani Sheriar wrote:
But I do still need help with this issue if anyone can look past the
questionable material. ;~)
This list needs no ground rule like
- "Warning ... Cont
Rowan Lewis wrote:
http://www.pixelcarnage.com/development/evolt_lives
See how the input element is pushed down and its surrounding paragraph
element isn't? The input element is down the very bottom.
I think this is the 3px txt jog [1]
The sidebar/panel is a right float
#panel { ...
Christian Montoya wrote:
http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html
Does not work in MacIE.
http://www.kriton.de/CSS/zentrieren/alle-zentriert.html
would be another one.
Tom Livingston wrote:
http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/thebox/deadcentre4.html
Does need given dimension
Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
2005/9/8, Ingo Chao:
<...>
For your specific dead center question, were the pure CSS path shows a
very known CSS weakness in vertically centering content:
<...>
A very known Internet Explorer weakness, I would say.
Thanks. You are right. It's not
designer wrote:
OK, I don't use tables, except for tabular data. I've been doing this
standards stuff for for just one year and there is only one place where
I use a table for layout, and that is to put something (div, or
whatever) slap bang in the middle of the screen, both vertically and
hor
Anders Nawroth wrote:
http://cms3.nawroth.com/testsidor/filer/testpage.html
For disappearing a.p. boxes, see
http://www.brunildo.org/test/IE_raf3.html
Your testpage shows the problem listed as Example 1
The fix is to rearrange the html, or by inserting an empty box, see the
subsequent example
Bob Schwartz wrote:
On this page:
http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_02.html
I have a link at the bottom of the page (Back To Page One)
which should send a visitor to:
http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html#top
and it does in all the browsers I have tried ex
Rachel Radford wrote:
I’ve found that if I have an and a width specified through the css on
the that IE doesn’t actually number the list! They all turn up as
number 1! Can someone explain why this would be… and does anyone know of a
way around it?
Dwain already provided a fix.
We have tr
Webmaster wrote:
As promised I've been working away again creating a hack-free version of the
Holy Grail 3-col layout. ...
http://d81314.i50.quadrahosting.com.au/layout_test.htm
I now ask the list's help in resolving a very odd and new bug to me. It only
seems to occur in IE and happens when th
Janelle Clemens wrote:
I am uncomfortable with hacks and am trying to avoid them as much as
possible. I really appreciate all the links and info on Win IE hacks that
everyone has been giving but reading about how they work is not helping. I
could really use an example of how to implement them.
Rachel Radford wrote:
Is there any other reliable way of mimicking the old-school valign for table
layouts? I realy don't want to use hacky stuff or any javascript stuff
cause already there is so much hacks just for IE!!!
Unfortunately, no, there is no way without massive hacking.
Bruno Fa
Bruce schrieb:
I guess I cannot communicate what I mean.
... I was wondering if an image would stretch as a background image in the
stylesheet as a background. That's all.
Ingo did a demo as a background image of a h1 tag. I thought that would
work.
Using the EXACT same code that he used, in t
Bruce schrieb:
That's it!!
Bruce, I didn't expect that this attempt works for you. You need a very
big image, resulting in >25k.
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You can choose a focus of the picture, which determines the
percentage-value for the background-position. This makes the image look
fixed (here: x=30%),
Bruce schrieb:
It will size according to the resolution. Stretch and shrink.
Not stretching, not static, though:
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/wide.html
Ingo
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Mugur Padurean schrieb:
Would you sent your client to war (for big bucks) with slow, clumsy outdated
weapons from the 20th century?
We shouldn't use war metaphors in a thread that has all qualities of an
holy war.
After reading all possible relevant and irrelevant objections, I would
prefer
Julián Landerreche schrieb:
Now, I have understood the solution.
I need to add a property to the a:hover rule.
a:hover {
border: none;
}
Voilà!
Now it works in IE6...
Weird, weird bug...
Yes, that's weird. Maybe this
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/pseudocss.html#hoverdesc
will be of additio
Rowan Lewis schrieb:
Or how about the much simpler more correct method?
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html
the problems the OP had in IE5.5 can get worse when the overflow: hidden
of the "simple" clearing meets the Holly hack in other bugfixes needed
in this browser:
http://www.456b
Please don't forget, while forking, to build a third mediocres/average
list, for those who squint at being a guru and tend to forget the years
they were soo newbie.
or, alternatively:
Raise the level of the input in this list by more quality postings and
answers.
The quality of the answer
designer schrieb:
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk/typotest.html
and there you will see the effect working fine in IE6, FF1.0, Opera
etc. But IE5.5, although it gets the colour right, h6:first-letter
doesn't pick up the increase in size for the first letter.
havent looked to deep in it, but
h6
Sorry, just noted that Bruno Fassino's explanation of the technique he
developed can be better understood here:
http://www.brunildo.org/test/img_center.html
with a link to the text centering method I already mentioned.
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akella schrieb:
I know that making HEIGHT and LINE-HEIGHT equal for text - will make ONE row
"valign:center".
But what about 2 rows of text?
Is there some way to align even two rows of text this way?
You'll need a container of known height
http://www.brunildo.org/test/vertmiddle.html
Ingo
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Nathan Rutman schrieb:
4) Specifying height and width on images by default was a trend made
popular in the late 90's, where slow-to-render table-based layouts were
used (which relied heavily on images "pushing" the cells around to the
correct size/location) and everyone was using dialup a
Nathan Rutman schrieb:
http://www.solvepoint.com/design/sp4.2/
1) (IE ONLY) When the page loads, the menu items are in the upper-left
corner of the screen until used the first time, then they jump into
place. I thought they needed "layout" and so assigned height attributes
to all items invo
Nathan Rutman schrieb:
>> Whenever a background is disappearing, try to give layout to the
parent of the element via the Holly hack.
What does that mean? You want to give a height:0 to the parent
element? I don't get it...
Holly Bergevin's hack is described in detail here:
http://www.comm
tee schrieb:
Here is the url:
http://clients.lotusseeds.com/dojoprocedures.html
Another page that is using the #preamble is 'Karate overview'.
There should have a fist image next to 'Dojo' and 'Karate overview', but
it's not there in PC IE 5.5/6.
Sense? We still speak of IE, don't we?
Whenev
kvnmcwebn schrieb:
'this article by Lloyd Dalton helpful
http://www.daltonlp.com/daltonlp.cgi?item_type=1&item_id=217'
thanks, thats very clean.
What do you think of the comment/example from stylo at the bottom of this
page?
http://www.alistapart.com/discuss/pngopacity/#c4812
Sorry, I don't
kvnmcwebn schrieb:
hello,
Is the png transparency tut on a list apart still the most up to date
method?
thanks
I found, in addition to the ALA artcle (guess you mean
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pngopacity/)
this article by Lloyd Dalton helpful
http://www.daltonlp.com/daltonlp.cgi?ite
Chris Taylor schrieb:
I'm having difficult aligning a background image the way I want to. The
markup is like this:
19.65% ...
Chris, I don't know if I got the problem right, but I think
Zoe's article abut "Creating Liquid Faux Columns" [1] covers a lot of
the theme: http://www.communitymx.com
Chris Stratford schrieb:
...
I still see the errors - should I use Absolute values (px, not em) to
define my margin/padding on those lists?
Would that fix the problem?
It's hard to test the rounding error in all OS, text zoom level, and
different dpi-settings. Yes, px-fixed lenghts and offse
jackie reid schrieb:
... www.mackayports.com
The problem is when viewed in firefox:...
in the left hand column I can't stop the logo images
from having an underline, its underlining the whole link.
This construct does expand the link in some line-boxes, but the entire
link gets underlined.
Kay Smoljak schrieb:
On 5/31/05, kemie guaida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was sure that there was some major browser not implementing
display:inline-block, but in a quick test firefox 1.03, Opera 7 &8 and even
IE 6 are interpreting it correctly...
> I've never really thought about it before,
Vaska.WSG schrieb:
Actually, because I can't really find a way to get by on the word-wrap
issue and also the use of indents (as they appear in the code) I've
done all of this in php without code or pre. It uses 's for the
tabs (preg_replace("/\t/"...).
...
If you are curious this is wh
The message is in the public archives and not adressed to you.
It contains a zip-file. This zip contains a
htm-file, but in fact its a
htmpif
wich will infect you Windows computer
* Delete the message. *
regards, Ingo Chao
Jack Saat schrieb:
I have a really Junk code page you can view on
http://www.extraheight.com/ and need to make this code
standards-compliant. But want keep the same layout minus of course the
clear view problems. There is so much junk in the code and I do not
know where to start. :(
From the sc
Thierry Koblentz schrieb:
What about this one?
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41412
Yes.
At the moment I got your mail, I got the same info from Bruno Fassino at
css-d where I had moved the thread to.
Thank you!
the attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=18050
While I was zooming the text-size in FF, I saw that
one line of text partly overlaps the red float.
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/lineinfloat.html
looks like the "real browsers" have some float bugs too.
FFnightly20050525 WinXPSP2. Can this be confirmed on a Mac build? If
this is a bug, som
Ingo Chao schrieb:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/links.html#edef-A
12.2 The A element
(%inline)*
content: zero or more inline elements
-(A)
but no other A element
You are right, there is no phrase visible to me that explicitely states
it in a plain human language.
http
John Allsopp schrieb:
I believe that, and all my reading leads me to believe that
elements may only contain other inline elements (not including
elements.
Can anyone point me to the definitive part of the HTML spec that says
this?
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/links.html#edef-
Scott Reston schrieb:
... If I
wrap the divs in one big div, I still see the same issue.
The thing I'm most interested in, though, is the WHY? I want to
understand the rule that I've run afoul of so that I can avoid it in the
future.
I'm not getting 'float drop' caused by a too-wide element
Richard Lake schrieb:
vary in size a little, particularly height. Scroll down to the Climbers &> Some
of the images on this page: http://www.pricklypair.co.nz/products.php
Vines or Perennials to see an example.
All of the images are inserted in a floating div. When one of the floating
divs in the
Carl Reynolds schrieb:
Thanks Ingo for your responses. I spent the day yesterday looking at the
things you suggested and at brunildo's site to see how they apply to my
problem. I agree with you that it looks as if the problem arises when
the browser thinks the total width of the page exceeds 100
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] schrieb:
Something I find really strange is that a lot of people who put emphasis on
Web Standards suddenly found their way back to non-liquid, 800px, centered
design. I am wondering why that is?
Andreas, there is a long discussion with many comments in some blogs
Ingo Chao schrieb:
Carl Reynolds schrieb:
http://hyperbole-software.com/movie-buzz/
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/disappearingcontent.html
And I think the problem (the a. p. menu is disappearing in IE6 and IE5.5
on reload) is triggered when the floated div#center-layout's
margin-left
Carl Reynolds schrieb:
... if I narrow the IE window enough that a horizontal scroll
bar appears and refresh, or go to the page for the first time, the menu
area (on the left) disappears. If I then widen the window far enough for
the scroll bar to go away, the menu appears and remains visible, e
Gene Falck schrieb:
... I just checked on the 269840 bug and it sounds as
if it might be related to a nuisance problem I've
been seeing in a huge local app (my work notes)...
My problem isn't lines but rather an occasional
vertical doubling of the background image I am using
for LI bullets. The dou
designer schrieb:
... FF1.0, where the second and fourth images display several dashed lines
across the image. (on the face of it, they are all the same) If I refresh
the page the lines disappear, but on scrolling they come back again.
http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/wg/galleryv2.html
cannot se
Drake, Ted C. schrieb:
... I wish I could set up a generic example, but
it would take me too long to do the entire page. I'll see if I can duplicate
the issue with just the highlighted section.
That would be a good approach.
Here's an update. When I put height:1% on the hovers, the problem
disappe
Drake, Ted C. schrieb:
I keep finding a solution in adding height:1% to various elements.
This seems like a temporary fix. Can someone explain to me why the height:1%
is needed and why it could sometimes cause background images to not display?
height:1% will affect other browser too, say IEMac. So
Drake, Ted C. schrieb:
When you mouse over some of these divs, the content disappears and the
background color appears. It's like you are erasing it in blocks.
http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/guillotine.html
In case it is not the guillotine, you could provide an URL to a
simplified test c
White Ash schrieb:
Hello!
I don't know why, but I'm having a time with my design in IE. Firefox and
Netscape have no problem. The idea is that the content area would be flush
top with the bottom of the background. There is a big space in IE.
td {padding-top:0; padding-bottom:0;}
Also, in IE, I
Stevio schrieb:
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the suggestion but it didn't work! Stefan's suggestion did not
work either. Any other ideas anyone?
Anyone know why a floated div is hidden in IE6?
Stephen
apply the Holly hack to
#maincontent
for an explanation
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/rpfloat.html
when you
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
http://triin.net/2005/04/27/Web_Standards_in_Estonia
(The page itself is in Estonian, but the referred article
is for all of you, who for some strange reason don't speak
the language, translated to English.)
Hopefully the information will prove helpful for someone...
That
Jeroen Verburgh schrieb:
I'm not really sure it has anything to do with the contents of the floating
s, because none of them move around. When I move my mouse over a
hyperlink, then all floating s following the one containing this link
move a little.
Maybe shrinking isn't the most accurate term to
tee schrieb:
Thanks Ingo. It fixed but create a new problem for IE 5.2 Mac. It doubles
the space.
http://clients.lotusseeds.com/ie5.jpg
I know DW design view has display problem but this is something unusual as
soon as I inserted your code to my css file:
http://clients.lotusseeds.com/dw.jpg
Sorry
tee schrieb:
Sorry, realized I got the url wrong. Here is the right one:
http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/catering_new.html
Thanks for the URL.
#intro object {display: block;} /* do not touch */
should fix it here. :)
Objects are inline replaced elements like images, they sit on the baseline.
Ingo
Rachel Campbell schrieb:
The problem is that the header doesn't always display at all on some
pages, such as
http://www.ely.anglican.org/parishes/camgsm/new_site/activities/music/index.html.
There isn't a problem if you set IE's options to refresh on every visit
to the page, but that's not goin
Hope Stewart schrieb:
In my email, I was originally going to have a third option of floating both
columns, but when I tested it in Safari the columns sat on top of one
another instead of side-by-side. ...:
#right {
float: right
right: 10px;
width: 45%;
border: 1px solid black;
}
Cole Kuryakin - x7m schrieb:
http://www.x7m.us/_clients/danielik/dev/testing/index.htm
Somehow, some right-padding or right-margin has crept into the right side of the red outlined box in IE.
#sideBar { margin: 25px 14px 25px 15px; padding: 0pt; width: 140px;
float: right;
display: inline; /* fi
Jamie Mason schrieb:
2 important points before I start...
1. Don't get me wrong, I don't want flashing text!
2. Don't get me wrong, I don't want flashing text!
"Thou shalt learn when to say 'no.'"
It's only a particular range of flashing speeds that trigger epillepsy isn't it?
Its a wide
John Horner schrieb:
Not stupid at all, but I checked that and no, it's all happening via
HTTP from a web server, no local paths involved.
If it's not too much trouble, could we see an URL? Ingo
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Patrick Lauke schrieb:
I'm pretty sure it's a bug in (Win) Opera's absolute
positioning implementation, but annoying nonetheless...
would anybody be able to suggest a simple fix to
get the "advanced search/preferences" list to align properly
next to the input on my "frugal google" experiment
http:/
Patrick Lauke schrieb:
Kornel Lesinski
The funny thing is, that in my Opera 8b3/win your XHTML
is pixel-perfect with original Firefox startpage,
Interesting. In my copy of Opera 8 (can't remember which beta, but it's
build 7401) I have the "Advanced Search / Preferences" to the right of
the actua
Piero Fissore schrieb:
... If you visit www.immaginecreativa.it/unipn with Firefox (Mozilla,
Netscape, Opera, Safari or other GOOD browser) you can see beautiful
pictures on the top of the page, under the principal navigation menu.
If you visit that site with IE, those images won't be loaded! ...
N
Gerard Copinga schrieb:
when I put a right floating image in an unordered bulleted list, then in
opera 7.54 the list item holding the floating image doesn't show the
bullet anymore.
Item 1
Item 2 with right floating image... and no bullet in opera 7.54
(??)
Item 3
strange.
what if you wo
Jenny Francois schrieb:
I'm having issues with the right column on my site
(http://www.aekituesday.com) in IE.
The text aligns too much on the right
It's a pain to debug such huge generated pages :)
A simplified testcase would be nice.
Anyway, some of the problems started at Tuesday, February 22.
Ingo Chao schrieb:
And this may cause the drop of the right column-float under the content when the viewport is
sized wide enough.
Sorry, maybe this effect is not reproduceable on your font/screen/cache
settings, so here is a screenshot of the drop in IE6
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Thank you Peter for the quick response and heads-up!
I'm puzzled because I'm using Windows XP Home edition and checked the site
in IE 6 and FF 1.0, and the logo isn't skewed. I'm using absolute
positioning for the logo, therefore if any of the many WSG experts can
provide
Robin Campbell Joy schrieb:
The problem is within the header, where a "div" gets bigger than it
should. If i take the header image out of the code, the "div" renders
correctly.
Site: http://www.andrewjoy.com/newsite/
#header img {display: block;}
should fix that.
regards, Ingo
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designer schrieb:
www.sheltielife.co.uk
... However, one lady has contacted my wife because she 'can't see the gallery'.
She just can't access your left frame when javascript is disabled.
In FF, choose Tools/Options/Content/, and disable JavaScript, to see.
I think this is a problem of your frame
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