On Mon, 15 May 2017, George Dunlap wrote:
> [Reducing CC list now that we're off the topic of modules]
>
> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Volodymyr Babchuk
> wrote:
> > Stefano,
> >
> > On 12 May 2017 at 21:43, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> >
> >> On the topic of the technical reasons for being
[Reducing CC list now that we're off the topic of modules]
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Volodymyr Babchuk
wrote:
> Stefano,
>
> On 12 May 2017 at 21:43, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>
>> On the topic of the technical reasons for being out of the hypervisor
>> (EL0 app or stubdom), I'll spend a
Stefano,
On 12 May 2017 at 21:43, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On the topic of the technical reasons for being out of the hypervisor
> (EL0 app or stubdom), I'll spend a couple of words on security.
>
> How large are these components? If they increase the hypervisor code
> size too much, it's bes
On Fri, 12 May 2017, George Dunlap wrote:
> So given your examples, I see no reason not to have several
> implementations of different mediators or emulated devices in tree, or
> in a XenProject-managed git repo (like mini-os.git). I don't know the
> particulars about mediators or the devices you
[reordering slightly to make the response easier]
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Volodymyr Babchuk
wrote:
>> Maybe I'm just not familiar with things, but it's hard for me to imagine
>> why you'd need proprietary blobs to disable cpus or scale frequency.
>> Are these really such complex activiti
Stefano,
>> We, here at EPAM, viewed EL0 apps primarily as a way to extend
>> hypervisor. Because when it comes to embedded and automotive, there
>> arise some ugly things, that are needed at hypervisor level:
>> TEE mediators (OP-TEE is a good TEE, but for example there is TI's
>> MSHIELD with de
George,
On 11 May 2017 at 20:14, George Dunlap wrote:
>>> We, here at EPAM, viewed EL0 apps primarily as a way to extend
>>> hypervisor. Because when it comes to embedded and automotive, there
>>> arise some ugly things, that are needed at hypervisor level:
>>> TEE mediators (OP-TEE is a good TEE
On 11/05/17 16:19, Volodymyr Babchuk wrote:
> Hi Stefano,
>
> On 10 May 2017 at 21:24, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > I just want to point out that the comparision with tasklets is not
> > helpful. Tasklets involve the idle vcpu, which we are trying to step away
> > from because it increases irq l
> On 11 May 2017, at 18:20, George Dunlap wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Volodymyr Babchuk
> wrote:
>> Hi George,
>>
>> On 11 May 2017 at 19:35, George Dunlap wrote:
>>> Even better would be to skip the module-loading step entirely, and just
>>> compile proprietary code directly
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Volodymyr Babchuk
wrote:
> Hi George,
>
> On 11 May 2017 at 19:35, George Dunlap wrote:
>> Even better would be to skip the module-loading step entirely, and just
>> compile proprietary code directly into your Xen binary.
>>
>> Both solutions, unfortunately, are i
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 6:14 PM, George Dunlap wrote:
> yourself at a risk of meeting a guy like Patrick McHardy[1], a private
> individual with copyright on the Linux kernel
This should be "copyright on *code in the* Linux Kernel". Obviously
he doesn't own a copyright on the whole thing, just a
Hi George,
On 11 May 2017 at 19:35, George Dunlap wrote:
> Even better would be to skip the module-loading step entirely, and just
> compile proprietary code directly into your Xen binary.
>
> Both solutions, unfortunately, are illegal.*
Look, I don't saying we want to produce closed-source modul
On 11/05/17 16:35, Julien Grall wrote:
> Renaming the subject + adding more people in the conversation as this is
> not related to only ARM anymore.
>
> On 11/05/17 16:19, Volodymyr Babchuk wrote:
>> Hi Stefano,
>>
>> On 10 May 2017 at 21:24, Stefano Stabellini
>> wrote:
>>> I just want to point
On 11/05/17 16:35, Julien Grall wrote:
> On 11/05/17 16:19, Volodymyr Babchuk wrote:
>> Hi Stefano,
>>
>> On 10 May 2017 at 21:24, Stefano Stabellini
>> wrote:
>>> I just want to point out that the comparision with tasklets is not
>>> helpful. Tasklets involve the idle vcpu, which we are trying to
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