RE: [313] (Yet another) Track ID
I'll throw in a couple guesses. Carl's Good Girls is powered by a huge brazilian batacuda, which to some people sounds like a marching band drum corps. this is of course sampled from sergio mendes and the brasil 66.. Another minute, obscure possibility is the flipside of Meco's disco Star Wars LP (yes, I bought this when it first came out), which also riffed heavily on the marching band sound. funnily enough I always thought the b-side of the meco star wars record sounded like something carl might have done once upon a time.. j
Re: [313] Derrick May track ID
the sneak cut is based on a teddy pendergrass sample (a big whoppin' chunk of a teddypendergrass track, actually :)) Stewart Moroney wrote: Dj Sneak - You can't hide from your bud on Defiant -Original Message- From: Richard Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 September 2000 04:51 To: 313 Subject: [313] Derrick May track ID 43 min into Derrick May's set: http://www.supersphere.com/play/web2.supersphere.com/Content/TV/de rrikmay.rm is a slammin tune, with a funky baseline and what sounds like a woman singing well. every now and then... any ideas anyone ?? ta Richard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9
Re: [313] recloose
i've heard a fair amount about recloose, but i had no idea that was the former bubblicicious. some of my first exposure to live dj'ing was going to see bubblicious spin trip hop every tuesday (or was it thursday) at the bird of paradise in ann arbor. On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Peter B Leidy wrote: recloose/bubblicious/matt is also djing in ann arbor tomorrow night at the heidelberg on n.main st. On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, William VanLoo wrote: I'm nearly positive that there are no recloose mix CDs available. The old-schoolers may know whether there are any DJ Bubblicious mixtapes, however - DJ Bubbilicious is the name Recloose used to use when he was based in Ann Arbor. There *is* this, however: http://www.theplayground.com/static_music/ Check out Recloose's set on Detroit Technology (okay, it's partly self-serving, since my mix set is on there too). Cheers, Bill / dj marathon John D. wrote: anybody know if there are any dj recloose mix cd's out there? thanks John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Derrick May track ID
'You cant hide from yourself' by teddy pendergrass on Philly international. The 'female' sample is actually teddy pitched up somewhat.. :) peace j the sneak cut is based on a teddy pendergrass sample (a big whoppin' chunk of a teddypendergrass track, actually :)) Stewart Moroney wrote: Dj Sneak - You can't hide from your bud on Defiant http://www.supersphere.com/play/web2.supersphere.com/Content/TV/de rrikmay.rm is a slammin tune, with a funky baseline and what sounds like a woman singing well. every now and then...
Lansing Electronic Music Festival?
Does anyone know about a Lansing Electronic Music Festival going on this coming weekend?
Re: [313] Lansing Electronic Music Festival?
Does anyone know about a Lansing Electronic Music Festival going on this coming weekend? Friday Saturday http://www.esifest.com Alot of talented people billed. Some features: Traxx Derek Plaslaiko + Keith Kemp Derrick May Miles Serge John Beltran John Tejada live Trent Abbe = I'll be there supporting, H
Re: [313] (Yet another) Track ID
I know the track you're talking about - I've heard it played by a few people. The problem is, I don't know the title of it either. As far as these ears are concerned, all that's going on in the track are these snares and a kickdrum. I know it's not ritchie because although he played it, I've heard other people play it too. Dave --- Deliverator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I haven't had a chance to read a digest that is sitting at home on my pc so I may have missed a reply or two. One person had suggested that it might be helikopter, but that wasn't it either. It also wasn't rich tweaking the 909 either, they weren't 909 snares, most likely sampled. I'm gonna give away my middle class suburban roots here, but if by chance anyone has ever heard the notre dame HS marching band in harper woods do their repetitive spiel, then you are on the right track. I'll start digging up some of the other suggested tracks and see what I can find out. If anyone has online sets that have these songs, i'd be quite happy to check them out. thanks again, out jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
RE: [313] Derrick May track ID
'You cant hide from yourself' everywhere u go... there U R! ahh wisdom ;) mee-thod plush viper
Re: [313] Drexciya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just listening to Drexciya - The Quest. Any comments on their work. I'd be interested in verbal descriptions of the work. thanks mediadrome they are excellent, especially that The Quest double cd. / sakke -- work http://www.teraflops.com/ personal http://www.vip.fi/~sakke/
RE: [313] Drexciya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just listening to Drexciya - The Quest. Any comments on their work. I'd be interested in verbal descriptions of the work. thanks mediadrome I love the verbal description of Drexciya on the Interstellar Fugitives sleeve. It is something like Underwater Assault Unit, anyone have this handy to confirm how far off I am? Anyways, its a good description of them and their music i.e. aqua-orientated. Just don't ask the list who Drexciya is/are ;-`) Respect JasonB
Reflections News Playlist 09/23/00
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Re: [313] Drexciya
Just listening to Drexciya - The Quest. Any comments on their work. I'd be interested in verbal descriptions of the work. thanks mediadrome Gotta check out Neptune's Lair on Tresor - very funky electro. also luv Journey Home ep. I love the verbal description of Drexciya on the Interstellar Fugitives sleeve. It is something like Underwater Assault Unit, anyone have this handy to confirm how far off I am? Anyways, its a good description of them and their music i.e. aqua-orientated. Nearly right. The full description on the IF sleeve is as follows: STATUS: UR Aquatic Assault Unit, Beach Head Prepartions, currently missing in action. GENE TYPE: Z (Full Negative Evolution Sequence Completed) METHOD OF OPERATION: Underwater Deployment of Electronic Funk Bombs. WEAPON OF CHOICE: H20 CRIMES COMMITTED: Too many to list. CURRENTLY BEING SOUGHT FOR: Aquatacizem Mission # UR-045 WHEREABOUTS: Last Sighting Eastside Sewer System 7 Mile and Van Dyke area - Eastside Detroit Sector. UNIT OR DIVISION: Wavejumper Special Forces. I like all of the descriptions on the IF album. Peace Nathan (who has waaa to much time on his hands)
some help PLEASE!!
howdy folks does anyone have a copy, or know where i can get a copy of Vision's of You by Trevor Rockliffe feat. Blake Baxter. Sonic Groove had a copy, but don't really wanna spend the minimum $100 order. It's for my wedding early next year, so your help would be greatly appreciated. Also, does anyone know who i can contact to find out when the DEMF will be next year. I'm wanting to plan for my honeymoon, but it depends when the DEMF will be. Lastly, is it true that you have to book a time to go to the Submerge shop? I really want to visit it and purchase many rekkids when i'm over there. Sorry for the long winded post. Thanks Nathan (Who will be ever greatful to the people that can help answer these questions)
Mixtapes
Hello I've got 2 mixtapes(well 4 actually, but 2 for each set) by Derrick May and Juan Atkins when they were on JJJ's Mix-Up in Australia a while back. There are sooo many great tracks that I don't know the names or artists, and I was wondering if any helpful 313ers out there might be able to listen to them and write down the names of the tracks. I'm willing to pay them for their time and effort. Probably better someone from Australia does this as I'm in Adelaide, and also the Aussie dollar at the moment is screwed, so it wouldn't work out to much to someone in the US. Anyhoo, if anyone is willing, let me know and we'll work something out. Thanks again peeps Nathan
Re: RE: [313] Drexciya
In a message dated 9/27/00 2:09:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I love the verbal description of Drexciya on the Interstellar Fugitives sleeve. It is something like Underwater Assault Unit, anyone have this handy to confirm how far off I am? Anyways, its a good description of them and their music i.e. aqua-orientated. Just don't ask the list who Drexciya is/are ;-`) All I know is The Quest. The reason I asked for verbal descriptions is that lots of things that they do on The Quest (motives, development etc.) seem, to my ears anyway, more related to the classical music world that to the dance/techno world.So I will ask the question, who are they?, and did any of them have any classical musical training? mediadrome
Re: RE: [313] Drexciya
At 07:50 09/27/2000 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I will ask the question, who are they?, and did any of them have any classical musical training? From Phinnweb (a link I mailed you earlier!): DREXCIYA RUMOURS: It is rumoured that one or more Drexciya members have been or are at the moment in such groups as Elecktroids and Dopplereffekt. All Music Guide claims on their Ectomorph entry that Gerald Donald is one half of Drexciya. Even Mad Mike Banks has been connected with Drexciya once or more times. Since very few people know the actual identities of Drexciya, these rumours will undoubtedly go on and on. --- Well...let's start just another Drexciya thread! :) ltr, Roland *=- Wie heeft verdomme die knoop in m'n zakdoek gelegd? urL : http://www.casema.net/~rolando urL : http://www.mp3.com/scout303 icQ : 1D1243 (hexadecimal) -=*
Re: [313] some help PLEASE!!
On Wed 27 Sep 2000 20:56:52 +0930, Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does anyone have a copy, or know where i can get a copy of Vision's of You by Trevor Rockliffe feat. Blake Baxter. Sonic Groove had a copy, but don't really wanna spend the minimum $100 order. It's for my wedding early next year, so your help would be greatly appreciated. Visions of You will be re-released in a couple of weeks on Carl Cox's 'In-tec' label with remixes by Smith Selway, Samuel L. Sessions and Cox himself, as well as the original. I'm afraid I', not too up on Australian-UK currency conversions but it should be a bit cheaper than the copy you found owing to its' re-release and availability. Niall. ))\ )) o ___ )) )) (( \(( (( ((_(, (( ((...
Re: RE: [313] Drexciya
no, seriously though, drexciya are richard wagner, richard n. hoez, and philip glass.. *(:^) - Original Message - From: Roland van Oorschot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:08 PM Subject: Re: RE: [313] Drexciya At 07:50 09/27/2000 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I will ask the question, who are they?, and did any of them have any classical musical training? From Phinnweb (a link I mailed you earlier!): DREXCIYA RUMOURS: It is rumoured that one or more Drexciya members have been or are at the moment in such groups as Elecktroids and Dopplereffekt. All Music Guide claims on their Ectomorph entry that Gerald Donald is one half of Drexciya. Even Mad Mike Banks has been connected with Drexciya once or more times. Since very few people know the actual identities of Drexciya, these rumours will undoubtedly go on and on. --- Well...let's start just another Drexciya thread! :) ltr, Roland *=- Wie heeft verdomme die knoop in m'n zakdoek gelegd? urL : http://www.casema.net/~rolando urL : http://www.mp3.com/scout303 icQ : 1D1243 (hexadecimal) -=* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Metropolis
on 9/27/00 8:53 AM, Tom Robbins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm also looking for good sources of info on the film on the net if anyone has any pointers. http://www.persocom.com.br/brasilia/metropo.htm http://www.uow.edu.au/~morgan/Metroh.html http://www.digitalcentury.com/encyclo/update/fritzlan.htm http://us.imdb.com/Title?0017136 http://www.german-way.com/german/metrop.html http://www.georgetown.edu/users/barbera/metro.htm http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/metropolis.html (for the bookworms)
Re: [313] (Yet another) Track ID
this is of course sampled from sergio mendes and the brasil 66.. It is?? I got that and I can't recall any such banging, smooth latin drum. I think that Good Girls sampled the Goodmen and they inturn sampled a Peruvian group. Am I incorrect? Ollie Jason Martin wrote: I'll throw in a couple guesses. Carl's Good Girls is powered by a huge brazilian batacuda, which to some people sounds like a marching band drum corps. this is of course sampled from sergio mendes and the brasil 66.. Another minute, obscure possibility is the flipside of Meco's disco Star Wars LP (yes, I bought this when it first came out), which also riffed heavily on the marching band sound. funnily enough I always thought the b-side of the meco star wars record sounded like something carl might have done once upon a time.. j - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Derrick May track ID
I remember talking to Derrek Carter and he metioned that he sang on most of his tracks so I would think that he sang the Teddy Pendergrass bit. I think ;) Ollie mee-thod wrote: 'You cant hide from yourself' everywhere u go... there U R! ahh wisdom ;) mee-thod plush viper - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] (Yet another) Track ID
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:38:58 -0400, Oliver Barkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is of course sampled from sergio mendes and the brasil 66.. It is?? I got that and I can't recall any such banging, smooth latin drum. I think that Good Girls sampled the Goodmen and they inturn sampled a Peruvian group. Am I incorrect? ...in reply to Jason Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I was always sure that Carl Craig's Good Girls was a remix of The Goodmen's 'Give it Up', (hence the name Good Girls) under the Designer Music moniker. I would have to plead ignorance as to where the original sample comes from though - I'm sure someone out there knows! By the way, does anyone know if Good Girls is going to appear on Designer Music Vol. 2, and/or if either/both volumes are going to be released on vinyl? Cheers, Niall. ))\ )) o ___ )) )) (( \(( (( ((_(, (( ((...
Surgeon
Hey all, just thought I'd try and spark a little discussion here. I was going through some of my old vinyl and pulled out Surgeon's 'Comunication' album on Downwards from '96. DAMN, that's a KILLER album that I don't think I've heard anyone talk about yet. All tracks on this album are worthy of play. Wish he would do some work these days with that older feel to it, I love that stuff. Speaking of Surgeon albums, besides that and 'Basictonalvocabulary' has he released any other LP's?? Anyways Anthony Childs should be held up there with the Techno greats in my opinion. Pieces. MM _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: RE: [313] Anonymity .. was Drexciya
In a message dated 9/27/00 8:10:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DREXCIYA RUMOURS: It is rumoured that one or more Drexciya members have been or are at the moment in such groups as Elecktroids and Dopplereffekt. All Music Guide claims on their Ectomorph entry that Gerald Donald is one half of Drexciya. Even Mad Mike Banks has been connected with Drexciya once or more times. Since very few people know the actual identities of Drexciya, these rumours will undoubtedly go on and on. I find this sought after anonymity interesting. Is there any techno manifesto/early techno social theory that promotes anonymity of producers? The DJ's sure aren't anonymous! mediadrome
Re: [313] (Yet another) Track ID
In a message dated 9/27/00 9:52:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, does anyone know if Good Girls is going to appear on Designer Music Vol. 2, and/or if either/both volumes are going to be released on vinyl? at the moment there are no plans for good girls to be included on dm, v2. volume 1 will not be released on vinyl, volume 2 may be. pw x-pe ny
RE: [313] Surgeon tone-shifting
Talking about which... some time ago I let an interesting thread slip through, the one about tone-shifting - on Surgeon's Balance, one of my favourite tracks remain Circles - one of the simplest things I've ever heard, just a pounding, heavy percussive line with an alarm bell-like sound increasing and decreasing in volume on top of it... would that qualify for tone-shifting music ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Myke Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Surgeon Hey all, just thought I'd try and spark a little discussion here. I was going through some of my old vinyl and pulled out Surgeon's 'Comunication' album on Downwards from '96. DAMN, that's a KILLER album that I don't think I've heard anyone talk about yet. All tracks on this album are worthy of play. Wish he would do some work these days with that older feel to it, I love that stuff. Speaking of Surgeon albums, besides that and 'Basictonalvocabulary' has he released any other LP's?? Anyways Anthony Childs should be held up there with the Techno greats in my opinion. Pieces. MM __ ___ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anonymity .. was Drexciya
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find this sought after anonymity interesting. Is there any techno manifesto/early techno social theory that promotes anonymity of producers? Well, Mad Mike some of the UR gang have been quite anonymous, at least in the way of not posing for photographs without some kind of mask. For example, Wolfgang Voigt (Mike Ink) and Aphex Twin are known for their numerous pseudonyms. Actually, it's quite simple to stay anonymous if you put at least some effort to it. IMO the point _can_ sometimes be like making a kind of the music itself is more important than the makers -statement. Not that it always is, of course. :) J Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control. - UR
Re: [313] Surgeon tone-shifting
Toneshifting (one word, for aesthetic reasons) is not a style, it is a result... But generally, it only occurs with highly repetitive techno for anything complex or melodic becomes an oppressive agent... Simply put (I have to get to class), toneshifting is when the listener projects his/her own melody onto the repetition, rather then the music project out to the listener. The track, as simple as can be is merely a vehicle for whatever is in the listeners head, a compromise between the artist and the listener, a truly interactive music (and I contend a relative first in modern popular music)... The reason for the term toneshift is that the general trend amongst listeners is to change a monotonous single repeating tone or rhythm into a major/minor note shift, usually occurring in 2 bar patterns... sorry about the laymen's music terms... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 7:30 AM Subject: RE: [313] Surgeon tone-shifting Talking about which... some time ago I let an interesting thread slip through, the one about tone-shifting - on Surgeon's Balance, one of my favourite tracks remain Circles - one of the simplest things I've ever heard, just a pounding, heavy percussive line with an alarm bell-like sound increasing and decreasing in volume on top of it... would that qualify for tone-shifting music ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Myke Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Surgeon Hey all, just thought I'd try and spark a little discussion here. I was going through some of my old vinyl and pulled out Surgeon's 'Comunication' album on Downwards from '96. DAMN, that's a KILLER album that I don't think I've heard anyone talk about yet. All tracks on this album are worthy of play. Wish he would do some work these days with that older feel to it, I love that stuff. Speaking of Surgeon albums, besides that and 'Basictonalvocabulary' has he released any other LP's?? Anyways Anthony Childs should be held up there with the Techno greats in my opinion. Pieces. MM __ ___ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] More Classic D Techno ID's in RA
http://www.htcomp.net/stephen/id4.ram old Plus 8. Final Exposure - Vortex, Plus 8010, released in 1991, written produced by Joey Beltram, Mundo Musique Richie Hawtin. http://www.htcomp.net/stephen/id6.ram has a Jochem Paap feal. Precious Project - Dukkha Label: Music Man, mimi 9321, released in 1991
RE: [313] Surgeon tone-shifting
More on the ambient tip...but if you're interested in seeing how toneshifting can trick you into thinking something is there that isn't, take a listen to Steve Reich's It's gonna rain. Reich was an early experimental/ambient musician that would sometimes take spoken word stuff and chop it up into really repetitive segments..but in a very subtle way. Anyway, the repetitiveness starts to get ingrained in your head and before long, you start fogetting you are hearing words and they start to take on a more percussive nature. There are no fancy effects or anything, just repetitive speech which your mind starts to interpret as something different. It's very cool stuff...definitely bringing out a unique feature of our mind, but you can't really shake your ass to it like you can with the Surgeon =] t o double d set.go.recordings -Original Message- From: darw_n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:39 PM To: Gwendal Cobert; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Surgeon tone-shifting Toneshifting (one word, for aesthetic reasons) is not a style, it is a result... But generally, it only occurs with highly repetitive techno for anything complex or melodic becomes an oppressive agent... Simply put (I have to get to class), toneshifting is when the listener projects his/her own melody onto the repetition, rather then the music project out to the listener. The track, as simple as can be is merely a vehicle for whatever is in the listeners head, a compromise between the artist and the listener, a truly interactive music (and I contend a relative first in modern popular music)... The reason for the term toneshift is that the general trend amongst listeners is to change a monotonous single repeating tone or rhythm into a major/minor note shift, usually occurring in 2 bar patterns... sorry about the laymen's music terms... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 7:30 AM Subject: RE: [313] Surgeon tone-shifting Talking about which... some time ago I let an interesting thread slip through, the one about tone-shifting - on Surgeon's Balance, one of my favourite tracks remain Circles - one of the simplest things I've ever heard, just a pounding, heavy percussive line with an alarm bell-like sound increasing and decreasing in volume on top of it... would that qualify for tone-shifting music ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Myke Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Surgeon Hey all, just thought I'd try and spark a little discussion here. I was going through some of my old vinyl and pulled out Surgeon's 'Comunication' album on Downwards from '96. DAMN, that's a KILLER album that I don't think I've heard anyone talk about yet. All tracks on this album are worthy of play. Wish he would do some work these days with that older feel to it, I love that stuff. Speaking of Surgeon albums, besides that and 'Basictonalvocabulary' has he released any other LP's?? Anyways Anthony Childs should be held up there with the Techno greats in my opinion. Pieces. MM __ ___ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Surgeon tone-shifting
Gwendel wrote: Talking about which... some time ago I let an interesting thread slip through, the one about tone-shifting... Darw_n wrote: Toneshifting (one word, for aesthetic reasons) is not a style, it is a result... But generally, it only occurs with highly repetitive techno for anything complex or melodic becomes an oppressive agent... Simply put, toneshifting is when the listener projects his/her own melody onto the repetition, rather then the music project out to the listener. ie. When you're bored... the mind begins to wander. :) ~Askew _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Re: Anonymity .. was Drexciya
actually, the AMG system has been updated, and par special request Gerald's last name was taken off the site bio. d From: Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: Anonymity .. was Drexciya Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:37:58 +0300 (EEST) On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find this sought after anonymity interesting. Is there any techno manifesto/early techno social theory that promotes anonymity of producers? Well, Mad Mike some of the UR gang have been quite anonymous, at least in the way of not posing for photographs without some kind of mask. For example, Wolfgang Voigt (Mike Ink) and Aphex Twin are known for their numerous pseudonyms. Actually, it's quite simple to stay anonymous if you put at least some effort to it. IMO the point _can_ sometimes be like making a kind of the music itself is more important than the makers -statement. Not that it always is, of course. :) J Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control. - UR - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Re: Anonymity .. was Drexciya
In a message dated 9/27/00 10:38:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IMO the point _can_ sometimes be like making a kind of the music itself is more important than the makers -statement. Not that it always is, of course. :) Sure, but how about the DJ's? It would then seem that the DJ's are more important than the makers and the music!? (Just so we don't get 50 replies from DJ/producers We're talking about DJ's in their capacity as DJ's and producers in their capacity as producers, NOT DJ's who also produce and producers who also DJ.) mediadrome
Re: [313] (Yet another) Track ID
By the way, does anyone know if Good Girls is going to appear on Designer Music Vol. 2, and/or if either/both volumes are going to be released on vinyl? It's infuriating that the original Designer Music EP never gets a proper release, though I suspect it's for legal reasons. If my info's right it was a limited mail out only. Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson have the cheekiness to play it every time I hear them and it does my head in not getting hold of it! The original sample could well be Sergio Mendes. (I don't know what you mean by I got that and I can't recall any such banging, smooth latin drum - there's a lot of Sergio Mendes' stuff.) I had always thought the EP was Designer Music as in just remixes - the recent Designer Music 12 being a continuation of the concept (this time remixing Alexander Robotnik and Deelite) - from what I've heard, the rest of the original EP was remixes. The Vol 1 CD makes sense of that idea, anyway. BTW, just got hold of a copy of the Equinox EP on Retroactive at long last. Please Stand By is the business! Jonny.
Re: [313] Surgeon
within the next 2-3 weeks i'll release simple muzik 10 11 (#10 is a co-production with bjørn svin) then in a month or so i'll release an e.p. as checkmate on andy vaz' (background) new label deep night essentials. Then in November i'll release LL #7 (pacou's label), older stuff - but they're still kickin'. a co-production with bo v. for a tresor compilation is also lined up. thanks for askin' - don't forget to keep updated at www.mp3.com/bloch Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Funque Droppings/LL/Simple Muzik/Deep Night Essentials - Original Message - From: Myke Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [313] Surgeon Speaking of production, when are you next works being released and on what. I have some of your stuff off of Simple Muzik and am interested to hear some of your new work. Anyways back to the drudgery MM
[313] Surgeon
within the next 2-3 weeks i'll release simple muzik 10 11 (#10 is a co-production with bjørn svin) then in a month or so i'll release an e.p. as checkmate on andy vaz' (background) new label deep night essentials. Then in November i'll release LL #7 (pacou's label), older stuff - but they're still kickin'. a co-production with bo v. for a tresor compilation is also lined up. thanks for askin' - don't forget to keep updated at www.mp3.com/bloch Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Funque Droppings/LL/Simple Muzik/Deep Night Essentials - Original Message - From: Myke Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [313] Surgeon Speaking of production, when are you next works being released and on what. I have some of your stuff off of Simple Muzik and am interested to hear some of your new work. Anyways back to the drudgery MM
RE: [313] Surgeon
My favorite Surgeon track is definitely La Real, off of his label counterbalance (CB02). I love what Tony is doing recently, the counterbalance stuff is great. I've heard a lot of coments on this list about how he, (and other people playing similar music - dubbed boom-boom-boom) have no groove or funk to them. I would have to dissagree. To me, this is the stuff that gives me that rush of energy. This is what gives me inspiration to dance. I think, if you are going to compile a list of music like this that is influential, you would have to include Adam Beyer and Marco Carola (at least), if not Gaetek, Christian Smith and joel mull. Cheers Dennis From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Myke Mitchell' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Surgeon Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:25:52 +0200 Several others actually, off the top of my head two very worth checking out on Tresor : Balance and Force+Form His website (with complete discog) : http://www.dj-surgeon.com/ Also have a look at the releases on his own label, Dynamic Tension Gwendal -Original Message- From: Myke Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Surgeon Hey all, just thought I'd try and spark a little discussion here. I was going through some of my old vinyl and pulled out Surgeon's 'Comunication' album on Downwards from '96. DAMN, that's a KILLER album that I don't think I've heard anyone talk about yet. All tracks on this album are worthy of play. Wish he would do some work these days with that older feel to it, I love that stuff. Speaking of Surgeon albums, besides that and 'Basictonalvocabulary' has he released any other LP's?? Anyways Anthony Childs should be held up there with the Techno greats in my opinion. Pieces. MM __ ___ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Joey Beltram (RE: [313] More Classic D Techno ID's in RA)
I know the guy isn't Detroit but NY, but I have just seen this, and I'd be glad to know what is the essential (most varied, most interesting) stuff from him ? Gwendal http://www.htcomp.net/stephen/id4.ram old Plus 8. Final Exposure - Vortex, Plus 8010, released in 1991, written produced by Joey Beltram, Mundo Musique Richie Hawtin.
Re: [313] Drexciya
interview and discography here: http://techno.ca/cognition/drexciya.htm Batory, Jason wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just listening to Drexciya - The Quest. Any comments on their work. I'd be interested in verbal descriptions of the work. thanks mediadrome I love the verbal description of Drexciya on the Interstellar Fugitives sleeve. It is something like Underwater Assault Unit, anyone have this handy to confirm how far off I am? Anyways, its a good description of them and their music i.e. aqua-orientated. Just don't ask the list who Drexciya is/are ;-`) Respect JasonB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9
Re: [313] Surgeon
check the tresor website for more info on and a discography for surgeon. btw, it's anthony child (no s) andrew duke :) Myke Mitchell wrote: Hey all, just thought I'd try and spark a little discussion here. I was going through some of my old vinyl and pulled out Surgeon's 'Comunication' album on Downwards from '96. DAMN, that's a KILLER album that I don't think I've heard anyone talk about yet. All tracks on this album are worthy of play. Wish he would do some work these days with that older feel to it, I love that stuff. Speaking of Surgeon albums, besides that and 'Basictonalvocabulary' has he released any other LP's?? Anyways Anthony Childs should be held up there with the Techno greats in my opinion. Pieces. MM _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9
RE: [313] Surgeon tone-shifting
toneshifting... It's very cool stuff...definitely bringing out a unique feature of our mind, but you can't really shake your ass to it like you can with the Surgeon =] t o double d set.go.recordings ++ this discussion is really beginning to tire me, but the following just occurred to me: when you reach a certain amount of feet under water, only a small portion of the spectrum of light penetrates. effectively you can only physically see black and white, because the other colors are not present. nevertheless, you perceive color because your brain inserts color where there is none in order to bring your environment more in line with what it thinks it should be... it seems plausible that toneshifting is merely the audio equivalent of this process. in a stark environment (in this case, with very few sounds, rather than few colors) the brain attempts to insert melody because that is what it thinks should be there. perhaps an effort to maintain balance or status quo, familiarity, normalcy, etc. blah, blah... h
Re: [313] Joey Beltram (RE: [313] More Classic D Techno ID's in RA)
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Gwendal Cobert wrote: I know the guy isn't Detroit but NY, but I have just seen this, and I'd be glad to know what is the essential (most varied, most interesting) stuff from him ? Gwendal http://www.htcomp.net/stephen/id4.ram old Plus 8. Final Exposure - Vortex, Plus 8010, released in 1991, written produced by Joey Beltram, Mundo Musique Richie Hawtin. A couple come to mind: Places - Tresor 34 Re-Releases 1989-1991 - Trax 5027 They're both LPs, and probably will get a bigger bang for you buck, IMHO. My favorite Beltram tracks are on either of these... Doris x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x 'Opium? No! Cocaine? No! The Great American Brain Killer Is Dance Music!' --Portland Oregonian, 1932 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Surgeon
plug There, and http://www.dj-surgeon.com is more up-to-date, with contact info and other doodads. /plug Doris On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Andrew Duke wrote: check the tresor website for more info on and a discography for surgeon. btw, it's anthony child (no s) andrew duke :) x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x 'Opium? No! Cocaine? No! The Great American Brain Killer Is Dance Music!' --Portland Oregonian, 1932 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Black Nation in Germany
I wish I was taking a trip there! Archetype, if you haven't heard him, is pretty amazing. His stuff ranges from funky-smooth, to minimal, to out-there experimental, and back again (sometimes within the same track!)...all the while keeping a certain signature to it. Definitely worth checking out if you ever get a chance. His record releases are pretty sweet too- take a listen! I've seen a few of his live PA's in Columbus and have been pretty blown away; he knows how to get a crowd moving! peace GYS -Original Message- From: Aaron M Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 3:26 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Black Nation in Germany thought this tour schedule might be of interest to you all aaron bennett black nation records: kalamazoo, michigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.black-nation.com halfway between detroit and chicago -- Black Nation Fall Tour 2000 October 7th Ultraschall: Munich, Germany Jay Denham: Black Nation Records (Kalamazoo, Michigan) Anthony Shake Shakir: Frictional/7th City Records (Detroit) Archetype (Live P.A.): Black Nation/21-22 Corporation (Columbus, Ohio) Roberto Q. Ingram: Black Nation/Parasound (Los Angeles/Munich) October 13th Alcatraz Club: Landau Isar, Germany Jay Denham Anthony Shake Shakir Archetype (Live P.A.) interfaced.ave: Rohton (Munich) Aaron Bennett: Black Nation Records (Kalamazoo, Michigan) October 14th Nylon: Crimmitschau, Germany Anthony Shake Shakir Archetype (Live P.A.) interfaced.ave Aaron Bennett YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Holy Ghost Tour info
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am putting together a tour right now with the Holy Ghost,(Tresor) Anyone interested please email. You can view all the Holy Ghost info @: http://www.tresorberlin.de/america/news/index.html#english I can guarantee you that this will be a once in a life time opportunity for you to experaince one of thee best LIVE Techno show's ever. Were looking to do this tour around Jan or Feb Sean
RE: [313] tone-shifting while tired
Taking the toneshifting phenonmenon to its logical extreme, if you sent enough emails to Johanna Thompson would they eventually begin to generate autorepsonses? Sorry. I had to do it. Just had to. I know it's not really a funny situation. Tristan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: toneshifting... It's very cool stuff...definitely bringing out a unique feature of our mind, but you can't really shake your ass to it like you can with the Surgeon =] t o double d set.go.recordings ++ this discussion is really beginning to tire me, but the following just occurred to me: when you reach a certain amount of feet under water, only a small portion of the spectrum of light penetrates. effectively you can only physically see black and white, because the other colors are not present. nevertheless, you perceive color because your brain inserts color where there is none in order to bring your environment more in line with what it thinks it should be... it seems plausible that toneshifting is merely the audio equivalent of this process. in a stark environment (in this case, with very few sounds, rather than few colors) the brain attempts to insert melody because that is what it thinks should be there. perhaps an effort to maintain balance or status quo, familiarity, normalcy, etc. blah, blah... h - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
bogdan at demf
hey guys ok i got a question thats a bit out of date but im hoping someone
can help me out here. i was just informed that someone at demf while
spinning played the fnck you dj track from bogdan raczynski's thinking of
you album. if someone could let me know who had the enormous balls needed to
play this at the largest gathering of djs in the state ever. my guess is
bill van loo or ectomorph but just for my own wellbeing i figured it might
be a good idea to find out exaactly who it was. if someone can help me out
it would be much apreciated. thank you and have a good time doing whatever
it was yyou were doing b4 i interupted your peace.
thanks,
mike
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Re: [313] bogdan at demf
my guess is bill van loo or ectomorph but just for my own wellbeing i figured it might be a good idea to find out exaactly who it was. Nope, wasn't me - I was playing live, not DJing. Actually, I don't own any Bogdan, anyway. Ectomorph also played live; they did have DJ Godfather with them, scratching during their set and then (I believe) spinning a set afterwards...perhaps it was him, but I really don't know. Bill
Several Inaudible Radio/Webcast Setlists...
Sorry for the delays in posting these. My internet time is quite limited these days but still have the desire for the music... For all those who have sent me private email, i hope to get back to you soon. Because of recent time constraints I have over unread 1700 emails awaiting my attention so please be patient with me. Ok enough babbling, here are some recent setlists. Try to tune in to tonight radio/webcast as well! -- 9/6/2k Inaudible Radio/Webcast Setlist... 9-10 pm by lance... . Carl Craig: at les (Planet E) . Balil: choke fly (New Electronica) . Sean Deason Claude Young: zig (Intuit Solar) . Model 500: i wanna be there (RS) . Atypic: focus mel (Rising High) . David Morley: the first floor (Apollo) . As One: soleil levant (New Electronica) . Detroit Escalator Co.: float (Peacefrog) . Detroit Escalator Co.: nebulae (Peacefrog) . B.F.C.: sleep (ART) 10-11 pm by john c... . Jasper: forward (Force Labs) . Matthias Schaffhauser: weissbefuhl (Force Tracks) . Malte Finnus: ganz in weib/skaki mix (Oni-Tor) . Sascha Funke: as interlagos (Cadenux) . Heiko Laux: moved/ricardo villabos mix (Kanzleramt) . Rechenzentrum: in einne fluffigteit (Shitkatapult) . Mr. C: warmth (Tide) . 4 Play feat Miss Lips: no backup/dub (4 Play) . Adam Beyer + Pete: faces (Inside) . Stoned Baby: pirate (Primevil) . Torul: eingany (Force Inc) . Donnacha Costello: lateral thinking (Force Labs) -- 9/13/2k Inaudible Radio/Webcast Setlist... 9-10 pm by lance... . Kit Clayton: bryn calfaria (Sprawl Imprint) . Future 3: future 3 (April) . Casino vs Japan: over island (Wobblyhead) . Loam: lucky (Topscore) . Jega: geometry (Matador) . Opiate: jeg dromtemigen drom inat (Sprawl Imprint) . Fug: muma sounds (Raya) . Safety Scissors: end product/stewart walker remix (Context) . Kid606: twirl (Mille Plateaux) . Donnacha Costello: nec (Force Inc) . Kid606: now i wanna be a cowboy (Mille Plateaux) . 100% genuine - selected edits (Rephlex) . Donnacha Costello: var (Force Inc) . Loam: dragon2500 (Topscore) 10-11 pm by john c... Dettinger: oasis b1 (Kompakt) . Diet: you me/clair's acapella (Lo-fi Luxury Layouts) . B Series: nervous (B-Series) . Super Lova: motion/dean decosta mix (Stir 15) . Dub Tractor: drive (FX) . Sasche Funke: safety first a2 (Kompakt) . Jonas Bering: bienfait c1 (Kompakt) . Modernist: channel 28 (Kompakt) . Shamlov: blue mountains (Li-Fi Stereo) . Lo Soul: taste not waste (Playhouse) . Da Kine: downstream (Driftwood) . Sand 11: yeah yeah yeah (Ladomat 2000) -- 9/20/2k Inaudible Radio/Webcast Setlist... 9-10 pm by lance... . Loam: eternals (Topscore) . Lali Puna: dont think (Morr Music) . Future 3: fumble (April) . Christian Kleine: minus time (City Centre Offices) . Detroit Escalator Co.: scram (Peacefrog) . Atypic: eshish (Warp) . Tura: reishi (Warp) . Peel Seamus: homeworld (Delsin) . Safety Scissors: mirror (Plug Research) . Sybarite: otonomy (Static Caravan) . Manufracture: swollen car (Morr Music) . Lali Puna: fast forward/flowchart remix (Morr Music) 10-11 pm by john c... . A mix cd by WJ Henze Thanks to everyone who tuned in. See you next week same time url or place on the dial. ---Lance--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
some toneshifting tracks...
Go listen to Hawtin's Decks Effex whatever it's called CD, and tracks 11 12 have some minor toneshift capability in the mid congas, particularly at track 12 time 28 seconds when the bass snaps back in (although it only lasts until good 'ol Ritchie does that awfully boring mix into 13)... Also, another mix that goes from audible toneshifts (toneshifts that are actually there) to my version of projective toneshifts, track 7 into 8. On 7, that cute little Latin like piano (my favorite part on the whole CD) has actual shifting in it (minor/major), then the mix starts at 8, the piano drops and a girls chant thing starts. The toneshift really becomes noticeable after the first little feedback loop that Hawtin does (that weird sucky noise), and the girl chant come back in, and the chant is toneshifting (not really switching from minor to major, its just in your head) Now this second one (7-8) is a common effect I know, where the ear is used to hearing something and when that something disappears, the ear seems to still hear it, I just wanted to point that out as to its general sound in my head... The first mix I talk of is a real toneshift, BUT it's really faint, and perhaps even impossible to hear for I could have trained myself to easily hear it. There are much better examples, but I choose to point this out because everyone and there mom has this CD... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com
