(313) more store closings? (and some radio topic)
I saw this on a website that I visit often- With Groovetech and Higher Source recently closed, and another online store about to close... so, anyone know of more online record websites closing down? damn, two of my lifelong dreams dashed on the rocks of the economy - owning an independent record shop and DJing for a freeform radio station not really a good time for either of them actually, I was reading in Mojo (which the newest one is about Detroit rock but there is a very brief article on techno - it's on of those primers we've all read 1,000 times by now) that there is some court case - I think involving the Dixie Chicks and Bruce Springsteen that might just force ClearChannel to give up some dial space on the radio? Which would make room for some independent radio stations anyone heard about this? MEK
RE: (313) Dub
Another interesting interpretation that I think has been missed. dub v. dubbed, dub·bing, dubs v. tr. To thrust at; poke. To beat (a drum). v. intr. To make a thrust. To beat on a drum. n. The act of dubbing. A drumbeat. [Perhaps from Low German dubben, to hit, strike.] -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:56 AM To: Martin; Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dub Dub is short for double, no? ie copy/transfer? I work in television and the word dub is used to describe any copy of a master tape. Dub also means to strike/hit with a sword - ie The Queens does it when she knights people. There will a plethora of varying etymologies of the word cos it is a very simple 3 letter word with many possible origins. -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:48 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Dub The meaning in Reggae came from this: to furnish (a film or tape) with a new sound track, as one recorded in the language of the country of import. martin 30/9/03 1:48 PM Cobert, [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah, words like overdubs for example... I always though it was a derivation of duplication, because you were adding a second track ; this being said, it might be the Jamaican origin... or both words have a common and very ancient origin, with always that idea of having things in double, body ghost, track 1 track 2... any linguist on this list ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 3:43 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Dub Very vry interesting and intriguing. One bit jars though: Indeed, dub is rooted in the word dup, which is Jamaican patois for ghost. I'm not denying the meaning or existence of the patois word 'dup' (I've heard a word which seems to derive from it, 'duppy'). But I always thought the term 'Dub' as applied to reggae and eventually to any remixed 'version' of a popular music track/song, came from the term 'dub' which is simply another word for recording, especially making a copy of an existing recording. k # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. -- Benn Glazier email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +61 (0)413 316 618 http://www.royaltech.net
Re: (313) sydney in october
There's lots of tours, The Roots are doing a couple of dates and ?uestlove is DJing. Try www.inthemix.com.au and pick up 3D World mag free on the streets (usually in stores) of Syd. Good stores are in Oxford St area, like Reachin' and BPM. You'll find some Internet cafes in the area and nice cafes like Mickey's. Melbourne is way better clubwise but there's always something going on in Sydney. -- From: Ramon Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) sydney in october Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:23 PM robin wrote: hi all, i'll be in sydney (Australia) from october 10th to the end of october, can anyone point me in the direction of any decent club nights/interesting stuff that i should check out? any help greatly appreciated, robin... www.residentadvisor.com.au Regards, Ramon Crespo
Re: RE: (313) Dub
I'm not denying the meaning or existence of the patois word 'dup' (I've heard a word which seems to derive from it, 'duppy'). But I always thought the term 'Dub' as applied to reggae and eventually to any remixed 'version' of a popular music track/song, came from the term 'dub' which is simply another word for recording, especially making a copy of an existing recording. i recently bought a comp on soul jazz records named the studio one story. 2x12 with some great music. it also came with a 4 hour dvd with interviews with almost everyone who is anyone in reggae. they interviewed an engineer from studio one and he explained the term dub as when jamacian dj tosted over record they turned out the vocal track, so some of the dj were able to get into the studio and record there version with the orignal music and there vocal. some times they would add sounds from other popular songs through tape to tape transfers. the main person they interviewed was clement coxsone dodd. this guy is genius imo. started a studio one back in the 50's and recorded most of the classic ska/reggae/dub artist. he also talked about how jamacian dj would scratch the labels off records, (this was back in the 50's) how they built big sound systems, had parties until the early morning and how he to beat the of other jamacian dj getting the same records as him went into a studio and recorded his own music to dj. so no one else would have it. sound familiar?? -- -scotto lansing, mi. plaztikjezuz.com
(313) classic Italian records
Not knowing much about Italian disco/house productions and the record labels (but hearing a few samples that I like) - what are some of the classics? curious to know which ones have found their way into Detroit techno house DJ sets and those that have become classics within Detroit parties, etc. any websites that have photos of the records or the center labels? I'm doing a bit of digging this weekend and I'm on the look-out for some thanks MEK
(313) playlist WNUR Chicago - 26 Sept 2003
Clinically Inclined 26 September 2003 10:30pm - 1:00am CDT 89.3 FM Chicago / live stream during show WNUR.org 10:30 - 11:30pmMatt MacQueen Alex Cortex - untitled 11 - Inwards (Ann-Aimee) Kenny Larkin - Amethyst - Metaphor (RS) Mode-M - Freeform - The Inner World EP (Void) Nieu - Psyiu (Iridite) Rob Hood - Omega (Peacefrog) Open House feat. Placid Angles - Rainforest - Panic In Detroit (33rpm/Buzz) Woolph - Jangmeen - The Woolph EP (Classic) Shake - Simpatico - Songs for My Mother (Frictional) Stockholm Cyclo - Music Is All This (Kabuki remix) (Head 2 Toe) Quant - Nelly Disco - Quantical Quantasm (Dot) The Aztec Mystic - Aguila - (UR) DJ Rolando - Jaguar (Mayday Dub) (430 West) Future Beat Alliance - FBA Theme - Head Ways EP (Emoticon) Gescom - Cicada - Gescom EP (Skam) 11:30pm - 1:00amkarl meier heiko laux - moving between lines - ornaments (kanzleramt) claude young - da nu (sheep) heiko laux - making it detroit - ornaments (kanzleramt) quark - abyss (two thumbs) jeff mills - alarms - steampit (purpose maker) marco carola - 1st question (question) nils danielsson - stockholm ltd 1 (illegal) high life - 5 fingers to the west (mosaic) dave clarke - gonk (bush) kraftwerk edit ian j richardson - artillery (tresor) nitzer ebb edit gene la fosse - american psycho (counterbalance) christian wunsch - artists and komputer v/a (mechanisms industries) jeff mills - cubango - our man in havana (purpose maker) speedjack - storm (rs) family lounge - kamikasi (kanzleramt) throbbing gristle - hot on the heels of love (dj hell rmx) peter ford + ian loveday - deadeye (ifach) oliver ho - jackal ep (blueprint) mark broom - to be continued (pure plastic) pual damage - room of the contagious (hog) cyrus - enforcement (mills mix) (basic channel) teste - the wipe (probe) rino cerrone (rilis 1) k alexi - my my my - thee x files ep (radikal fear) motorbass - visine (motorbass) peace, Matt MacQueen
RE: (313) Dub / Pole
Speaking of dub, Pole played a live dub influenced set here in San Francisco last Friday. He even had what looked like a custom made melodica, the toy keyboard harmonica popularized by Jamaican dub artist Augustus Pablo. The sound was more roots dub style than when I've seen him previously. Also much more of a traditional live music set with lots of solos and silence in between tracks, for better or worse. It was a bit too slow for my tastes, but entertaining. He also had a Nord Modular keyboard, a laptop running Logic and some effects pedals (sorry no vintage tubby style spring reverb unit). Not a bad set of gear to lug across the Atlantic! Or maybe it's just in his rider. Anyhoo, check it out if its coming to your town, but don't expect much dancing. _ hurlbot www.hurlbotics.com/mp3 _
RE: (313) Dub / Pole live set
Speaking of dub, Pole played a live dub influenced set here in San Francisco last Friday. He even had what looked like a custom made melodica, the toy keyboard harmonica popularized by Jamaican dub artist Augustus Pablo. The sound was more roots dub style than when I've seen him previously. Also much more of a traditional live music set with lots of solos and silence in between tracks, for better or worse. It was a bit too slow for my tastes, but entertaining. He also had a Nord Modular keyboard, a laptop running Logic and some effects pedals (sorry no vintage tubby style spring reverb unit). Not a bad set of gear to lug across the Atlantic! Or maybe it's just in his rider. Anyhoo, check it out if its coming to your town, but don't expect much dancing. _ hurlbot www.hurlbotics.com/mp3 _
Re: (313) classic Italian records
just read my post! oh dear! why do I need to know the answers to these questions? I dunno. I was reading the questions on the 'abstract thought' lp at the weekend, and I laughed cos its the kind of brainless stuff i always want to know. no use to anyone whatsoever, but for some reason I have to know! theres one, what would happen to jamaica if the bermuda tringle was over it ha ha ha! anyone know? I want to know.. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) rusty waters
Maybe I´m stupid... or maybe I didn´t pay attention, but there is something I don´t understand. Rusty Waters is a hip hop band... this is their page: http://rustywaters.tripod.com/ They have their own videos and worked with jam master jay, so they must be pretty big (I doon´t know much about the american hip hop scene, so excuse me if i`´s bulls**t I´m talking). Now Theo Parrish has a project also called Rusty Waters (remember the rotating assembly ep on sound signature). Is this a coincidence? Or is he working with one of these hip hop guys? Cheers, Maarten
RE: (313) classic Italian records
Got bored and found this --http://www.italo.neostrada.pl/english/emojastrona2.html Although more 80's focused it does have pictures of the records might help ya! (not really my bag so sorry if a bit off target) BTW. I go to Lake Garda quite a lot and it's so quiet there that I and can hardly believe that 25+ years ago, the scene there helped to spark Detroit techno but ya live and learn I guess!!
Re: (313) classic Italian records
BTW. I go to Lake Garda quite a lot and it's so quiet there that I and can hardly believe that 25+ years ago, the scene there helped to spark Detroit techno but ya live and learn I guess!! those guys were bonkers! real innovators. making record decks so they could mix, making effects units, playing things at the wrong speeds so they sounded sooo different etc. Mental. dj booths that moved on lifts so they could access dancefloors on different levels of the club, it goes on, I was gobsmacked. I am presuming (perhaps wrongly I suppose), that some of the bigger name US dj's of the early '80's must have (possibly indirectly) heard/known about these guys in Italy. The similarities are there anyway. and, someone, somewhere must have started importing european records in to the US (so where did they hear them first?), therefore for the dj's to play, therefore influencing our favourite artists? (or some of them). I presume. I could of course be horribly wrong. Maybe when the US guys get out of bed, one of them might pop up and tell me I'm talking a load of bobbins. p.s. thanks for the link!! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) sheltershed?
what is this? Sheltershed Underground Resistance 2000 N*Soul This CD is still sealed. TRACK LIST SPLASHDOWN DJ CULTURE RAINBOW BELIEF DJ CULTURE PLANET EARTH TRIPWORLD 1992 CORIANDER peace thanks ed
Re: (313) classic Italian records
to start, just look for anything produced by bobby orlando or claudio simonetti and you'll have a lot of great stuff to look for, two of the most prolific italo producers...bobby o's stuff got played everywhere (even kdj has sampled him rather obviously..) and dunno about claudio but he shoulda been...so look for their names in the credits...not considered true italo, but of course you wanna hunt down kano and gino soccio stuff too, always big in detroit and chi and well wherever cus its hot..also ditto the scotch, klein mbo etc reccomends from alex...doctor's cat has 2 or 3 classic songs...there is loads of good stuff out there the lsit goes on and on. also there ARE italo pages out there, such as katya casio's (of hong kong counterfeit) cult heroes page http://cultheroes.com, and http://www.geocities.com/euro_beat_80/eurodisco.html ..google italo disco and you'll find lots. i bet i'm in a worse mood than you alex...i win! jt _ Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time offer-- sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
(313) Basic Channel/Rhythm Sound in new Wire (UK mag)
October issue - great article on them and a photograph! Granted, it's a very blurry photo but you can see what their hair color is.;) there are some interesting developments revealed (at least new to me) Miles Davis and Peaches are also in this issue along with a article on Great Lost Recordings that is accompanied by a nice photo series of a vinyl pressing plant. really good issue overall MEK
(313) NRRRRRRGGGGGGGGG
Check this for Christian going bonkers http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=252
Re: (313) NRRRRRRGGGGGGGGG
ok while we're on the subject of littledetroit check this mix from Paula Temple if you haven't already: http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=215 a little harder and faster than what i normally dig but boy does she tear it up...brill robin... Martin wrote: Check this for Christian going bonkers http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=252
(313) Vega$
Hey everybody in 313-land, I'm heading to Vegas this weekend, and I was wondering: 1. Are there any record shops (new or used) worth going to in Vegas? 2. I know there are a lot of clubs in Vegas for the tourists, which is what I will be, are there any worth going to? I'm fairly open-minded, but Trance and Progressive house give me a rash. Reply privately, if you could, unless you feel the whole world ought to know. e
Re: (313) classic Italian records
on the subject of italo can anyone recommend some tracks with this kind of sound that are available to buy on vinyl currently. I remember at the second retroverts night earlier this year in london Jon Reynolds playing some amazing tunes with the italo sounds but a tighter, more modern production. I asked him what they were and he described them as sort of y2k italo re-edits :) I've got the Unclassics #2 vinyl with the margaritas track and love it, and it always gets a great reception when I play it to my mates, so now I'm looking for a few more nice titles to chuck into a mix for that house-party cheeky/happy vibe! :) cheers! matt . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) classic Italian records
tunes with the italo sounds but a tighter, more modern production. automan re-edit series would be an excellent place to start usual fine vinyl stores will have them. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) classic Italian records
i dunno about y2k italo re-edits but a label out of belgium, radius, just re-issued a bunch of classic italo, 3 seperate 12s with 3 or 4 songs each. _ Share your photos without swamping your Inbox. Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Re: (313) rusty waters
-- Original Message -- From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe I´m stupid... or maybe I didn´t pay attention, but there is something I don´t understand. Rusty Waters is a hip hop band... this is their page: http://rustywaters.tripod.com/ They have their own videos and worked with jam master jay, so they must be pretty big (I doon´t know much about the american hip hop scene, so excuse me if i`´s bulls**t I´m talking). Now Theo Parrish has a project also called Rusty Waters (remember the rotating assembly ep on sound signature). Is this a coincidence? Or is he working with one of these hip hop guys? Maat Low, Marcellus Pittman, Jerrald James, Warren Harris, Theo Parrish, and Mellissa Botts thats the people listed on the record as being part of rusty waters. i get the feeling that its just coincidental. speaking of rusty waters though, in that one recent theo interview posted on here, he mentioned an LP from this band. im really excited to hear it as the rotating assembly EP on sound signature is just sooo good. and a 3 chairs LP should come sometime also. god i love detroit house. tom andythepooh.com
(313) DeKstasy
has anyone used htis program. it appears to be like tracktor but for os x and is free. going to give it a shot tonight whe i get home scotto plaztikjezuz.com
(313) DEAF in DUBLIN
Hi.. here's the line-up for D1's DEAF [Dublin Electronic Arts Festival] this year. It's on between 17th - 27th OCT. The main event runs over two nights in the old Guinness Factory in Dublin. check www.deafireland.com for more info. Thanks Eamonn - D1 / DEAF Line-up - Robert Hood Plaid Technasia Scion Akufen Auxmen Visitor Paradox Laub Tarwater Pleite Breakage Photek Static Decal D1 DJ Bone Frank Bretschneider The Bug Ambulance Ulrich Schnauss Thaddi Herrmann Richard Chartier Taylor Deupree Fish Go Deep Brothers on the Slide Ewan Pearson Paul St. Hilaire (Burial Mix / Rhythm Sound) Del9 Vitacaliga School of Thought Tu-Ki Keuth Rowe Pita Davy Splyce Rob Rowland Deep Burial Panacea DJ Mayhem Lowtek Destrvkt Ri-Ra Relevance DJ Mek Tayor Addictive TV Scope Herv Undermine PixelCorps Splitloop Simon F Five Green Circle Polska MC Stich Mr Freeze Don Rosco PixelCorps Del9 2Bit Simon Conway Nost + lots more..!
(313) new mix
http://www.acid-house.net/mixes.html Hayden Andre, blaze geral basslines, piano ehoes and vibes.. @160kbps 90mb. placid www.acid-house.net - Everything you wanted to know about acid house
(313) contact info for schematic records
i am having some problems getting a hold of this record label. i ordered some records from there website and they have not mailed them to me. it was back in early june and i have sent them several (around 10 times) letters asking the where abouts of my vinyl, with no reply. i have sent the letters to three different address ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], and i forget other) I need a real address that works or a phone number. these guys owe me 5 records or $60 and i am relentless about getting my wax!!! i really want my records scotto plaztikjezuz.com ps. they are still selling wax on there website, so i would not order from them. pps. i also talked with some guy on slsk and he said they were going bankrupt, anyone know if this is true?
(313) OT ebay item
quick note I've got one item up on eBay that some of you might be interested in the first release on the Blue Cucaracha label - side 1- The Innocent (Chris Nazuka Derrick Carter) side 2 - Last Session featuring Alton M and Kim (written by Alton Miller, Ron Trent, Chez Damier) Item number: 2561773106 it's factory sealed - unopened - never played MEK
Re: (313) classic Italian records
Morning. apologies if I'm a t**t today, I'm in an extremely bad mood. In fact, next person to ask me to do something at work gets it big time. oh dear. also, before I start this rant, a disclaimer - I am generally a mis-informed sort of person, and tend to put two and two together and come up with 35 sometimes as I have a 'creative' imagination. please tell me if I am talking a load of s**t - there are far more knowledgeable people on this list than me who may (and should ) be able to correct me - I'm guessing at half of it from what I've been told and read curious to know which ones have found their way into Detroit techno house DJ sets and those that have become classics within Detroit parties Erm, do you mean in modern times or days gone by? well, I'm not from detroit and have never been to detroit, but Juan seems to play Martin Circus 'disco circus' quite a bit. mind you, is that an italian record? I think he was french. Pah, I should just go back to bed and be done with it today. I guess some of the influence in the first instance came from US radio jocks (hot mix 5, mojo, who are the others? help!!) picking up the italo stuff on import and tanning it over the airwaves, then it seeped into the clubs (via ron hardy etc?), and then obviously influenced various peoples music. From what I can gather, there was a pretty healthy scene in rimini and lake garda in Italy, this started early, around 76 I think. I'm not sure how some of 'their' records (the records they played, not made) managed to make the jump over the atlantic, but they did somehow. also at this time there wasn't much of what we now call 'italo disco' (ie that electronicy sound) but it was an attitude I think - taking mad new wave records, playing them at the wrong speed etc, basically just sort of creating a wild sound with what you have available to you. My main interest at the minute is finding out how the records got to the US (they never made it to the UK in big numbers) - who was bringing them over and why, who were the first jocks to pick them up? Maybe a knowledgable US person may be able to help. were the hotmix crew/ron hardy/mojo etc first to be playing them? or was there someone before? anyway, back to the question - the classics. maybe someone else is better answering that... (I can't answer any q's relating to detroit!), but obviously Klein MBO, robotnick, my mine, scotch etc are good places to start. also, web pages and stuff - I never really found a good italo page (I probably haven't looked hard enough), but theres great resources on tigersushi, also really a great place to start is the deephousepage by checking hardy/hotmix mixes out. erm, so is that any help? dunno, hope it is. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
