Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

[the Beauty and Belief Society]

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

I've had this song stuck in my head for the past two months. Honestly, this
came of topic about a year ago or so, but this is pretty much the first
time I've had to respond to y'all.

I work first shift, which doesn't mean anything to the hyperreal world (as
your emails hit before I or everyone you know wakes up)

';p

"There is a man that live next door
In my neighborhood In my neighborhood
And he gets me down
He gets in so late at night
Always a fuss and fight
Always a fuss and fight
All through the night
I've got to get away from here
This is not a place for me to stay
I've got to take my family
We'll find a quiet place
Hear the pots and pans they fall
Bang against my wall
Bang against my wall
No rest at all
He gets in so late at night
Always a fuss and fight
Always a fuss and fight
All through the night
I've got to get away from here
This is not a place for me to stay
I've got to take my family
We'll find a quiet place"

How is the current Techno Scene in Detroit

[David Mansfield]

Hello,

I wanted to ask some of you that live in Detroit how the techno scene is
doing now compared to 30 years ago?

Re: Books on Detriot Techno

[baars]

Strictly relating to Detroit Techno I don't know, but you should check Tim 
Barr's 'Kraftwerk. From Dusseldorf to the future', and maybe Kodwo Eshun's 
'More brilliant than the sun' although that is more like poetry about 
afro-futurism (but loaded with references to Drexciya, UR and Jeff Mills).
And if you want to read more about dance music preceding techno, you can't go 
wrong with the books by Tim Lawrence.


From: David Mansfield 
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 6:34 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Books on Detriot Techno

Hello Everyone,

I have read Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels and enjoyed it.  I was wondering if 
anyone knows of any other informative books on Detroit techno I could check out.

Thanks!

Re: Books on Detriot Techno

[Denise Dalphond]

I was gonna give everybody some space to calm down for a bit, but this is
too easy.

I wrote a dissertation about Detroit techno and house:

2014. “Detroit Players: Wax, Tracks, and Soul in Electronic Music.” PhD
diss., Indiana University.


I also wrote all these other things:

2021. “Resistance and Detroit Electronic Music.” In Oxford Handbook of
Electronic Dance Music. Oxford: Oxford University Press.

(forthcoming, includes multiple detailed fieldwork stories, because
ethnomusicology is like anthropology)


2018. “Black Detroit: Sonic Distortion Fuels Social Distortion.” In Black
Lives Matter and Music. Eds. Fernando Orejuela and Stephanie Shonekan.
Bloomington, IN: Indiana University Press.
(mostly about Drexciya)

2014. “Detroit Techno.” In African American Music: An Introduction, 2nd Ed.
Eds. Mellonee V. Burnim and Portia K. Maultsby. New York: Routledge.
(an overview)

2014. “Carl Craig.” In New Grove Dictionary of American Music, 2nd Ed.
Oxford: Oxford University Press.

2014. “Detroit Techno.” In New Grove Dictionary of American Music, 2nd Ed.
Oxford: Oxford University Press.

2014. “Submerge.” In New Grove Dictionary of American Music, 2nd Ed.
Oxford: Oxford University Press.

2014. “Techno Founders.” In New Grove Dictionary of American Music, 2nd Ed.
Oxford: Oxford University Press.

2013. “Electrifying Mojo and Radio.” In New Grove Dictionary of American
Music, 2nd Ed. Oxford: Oxford University Press.

2011. “The Ethnomusicology of Dance Music: Denise Dalphond Goes Inside EDM
Culture’s Roots.” Peter Kirn, ed. Keyboard Presents the Evolution of
Electronic Dance Music. Backbeat.



Thank you so much for the opportunity to share these publications with you,
as I love writing.



*Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.*
*ethnomusicologist*
*schoolcraftwax.work *


On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:32 PM Shaun Fogarty  wrote:

> Nice one, I will try to have a read.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, 19:02 Mario De Block,  wrote:
>
>> hi
>>
>> I read good things about
>> https://www.abebooks.com/9783738604290/Klang-Familie-Felix-Denk-Sven-3738604294/plp.
>> It concentrates on the Berlin scene, but does zoom in to the link with
>> Detroit too, of course. I plan to buy it soon.
>>
>> And there's a chapter from Laurent Garnier's book that's on Detroit,
>> which you could read here:
>> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jp4m78/read-the-detroit-techno-chapter-of-laurent-garniers-legendary-2003-book-electrochoc
>> .
>>
>> Ps: I just hope we can maintain a decent exchange on the board from now
>> on. If no real explicit "moderator" ss is there (and apt appreciation to
>> Kent for maintaining this board, still), we all should just moderate
>> ourselves a little.
>> I found myself upset a bit too much as well maybe, by a few raw and
>> offensive tones of late.
>>
>> Mario
>>
>> --
>> *Van:* David Mansfield 
>> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 28 februari 2020 19:34
>> *Aan:* 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
>> *Onderwerp:* Books on Detriot Techno
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I have read Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels and enjoyed it.  I was wondering if
>> anyone knows of any other informative books on Detroit techno I could check
>> out.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

Re: Books on Detriot Techno

[Mario De Block]

this one should be theme-specific, but harder to get and therefor more 
expensive: 
https://www.abebooks.com/9783639049145/Detroit-Techno-Transfer-Soul-Machine-3639049144/plp

M.

Van: Ben Britz 
Verzonden: vrijdag 28 februari 2020 20:40
Aan: Shaun Fogarty 
CC: Mario De Block ; David Mansfield 
; Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org>
Onderwerp: Re: Books on Detriot Techno

Der klang... is really good. Definitely recommend. Even if its not so detroit 
focused

On Feb 28, 2020, at 2:32 PM, Shaun Fogarty  wrote:


Nice one, I will try to have a read.



On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, 19:02 Mario De Block, 
mailto:madb...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
hi

I read good things about 
https://www.abebooks.com/9783738604290/Klang-Familie-Felix-Denk-Sven-3738604294/plp.
 It concentrates on the Berlin scene, but does zoom in to the link with Detroit 
too, of course. I plan to buy it soon.

And there's a chapter from Laurent Garnier's book that's on Detroit, which you 
could read here:  
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jp4m78/read-the-detroit-techno-chapter-of-laurent-garniers-legendary-2003-book-electrochoc.

Ps: I just hope we can maintain a decent exchange on the board from now on. If 
no real explicit "moderator" ss is there (and apt appreciation to Kent for 
maintaining this board, still), we all should just moderate ourselves a little.
I found myself upset a bit too much as well maybe, by a few raw and offensive 
tones of late.

Mario


Van: David Mansfield mailto:dmansfiel...@gmail.com>>
Verzonden: vrijdag 28 februari 2020 19:34
Aan: 313@hyperreal.org 
<313@hyperreal.org>
Onderwerp: Books on Detriot Techno

Hello Everyone,

I have read Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels and enjoyed it.  I was wondering if 
anyone knows of any other informative books on Detroit techno I could check out.

Thanks!

Re: Books on Detriot Techno

[Ben Britz]

Der klang... is really good. Definitely recommend. Even if its not so detroit 
focused

> On Feb 28, 2020, at 2:32 PM, Shaun Fogarty  wrote:
> 


Nice one, I will try to have a read.



> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, 19:02 Mario De Block,  wrote:
> hi
> 
> I read good things about 
> https://www.abebooks.com/9783738604290/Klang-Familie-Felix-Denk-Sven-3738604294/plp.
>  It concentrates on the Berlin scene, but does zoom in to the link with 
> Detroit too, of course. I plan to buy it soon.
> 
> And there's a chapter from Laurent Garnier's book that's on Detroit, which 
> you could read here:  
> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jp4m78/read-the-detroit-techno-chapter-of-laurent-garniers-legendary-2003-book-electrochoc.
> 
> Ps: I just hope we can maintain a decent exchange on the board from now on. 
> If no real explicit "moderator" ss is there (and apt appreciation to Kent for 
> maintaining this board, still), we all should just moderate ourselves a 
> little. 
> I found myself upset a bit too much as well maybe, by a few raw and offensive 
> tones of late. 
> 
> Mario
> 
> Van: David Mansfield 
> Verzonden: vrijdag 28 februari 2020 19:34
> Aan: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
> Onderwerp: Books on Detriot Techno
>  
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I have read Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels and enjoyed it.  I was wondering if 
> anyone knows of any other informative books on Detroit techno I could check 
> out.
> 
> Thanks!

Re: Books on Detriot Techno

[Shaun Fogarty]

Nice one, I will try to have a read.



On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, 19:02 Mario De Block,  wrote:

> hi
>
> I read good things about
> https://www.abebooks.com/9783738604290/Klang-Familie-Felix-Denk-Sven-3738604294/plp.
> It concentrates on the Berlin scene, but does zoom in to the link with
> Detroit too, of course. I plan to buy it soon.
>
> And there's a chapter from Laurent Garnier's book that's on Detroit, which
> you could read here:
> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jp4m78/read-the-detroit-techno-chapter-of-laurent-garniers-legendary-2003-book-electrochoc
> .
>
> Ps: I just hope we can maintain a decent exchange on the board from now
> on. If no real explicit "moderator" ss is there (and apt appreciation to
> Kent for maintaining this board, still), we all should just moderate
> ourselves a little.
> I found myself upset a bit too much as well maybe, by a few raw and
> offensive tones of late.
>
> Mario
>
> --
> *Van:* David Mansfield 
> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 28 februari 2020 19:34
> *Aan:* 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
> *Onderwerp:* Books on Detriot Techno
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have read Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels and enjoyed it.  I was wondering if
> anyone knows of any other informative books on Detroit techno I could check
> out.
>
> Thanks!
>

Re: techno

[Patrick Wacher]

Really love this guys tracks... so lush.


⌘⌥P

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:26 AM Marsel Delsin 
wrote:

> to keep it on-topic - here's some techno
>
> https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6495/lost-trax/surface-treated
>
>

Re: Books on Detriot Techno

[Mario De Block]

hi

I read good things about 
https://www.abebooks.com/9783738604290/Klang-Familie-Felix-Denk-Sven-3738604294/plp.
 It concentrates on the Berlin scene, but does zoom in to the link with Detroit 
too, of course. I plan to buy it soon.

And there's a chapter from Laurent Garnier's book that's on Detroit, which you 
could read here:  
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jp4m78/read-the-detroit-techno-chapter-of-laurent-garniers-legendary-2003-book-electrochoc.

Ps: I just hope we can maintain a decent exchange on the board from now on. If 
no real explicit "moderator" ss is there (and apt appreciation to Kent for 
maintaining this board, still), we all should just moderate ourselves a little.
I found myself upset a bit too much as well maybe, by a few raw and offensive 
tones of late.

Mario


Van: David Mansfield 
Verzonden: vrijdag 28 februari 2020 19:34
Aan: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
Onderwerp: Books on Detriot Techno

Hello Everyone,

I have read Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels and enjoyed it.  I was wondering if 
anyone knows of any other informative books on Detroit techno I could check out.

Thanks!

Re: Books on Detriot Techno

[Andreas Rasper]

Kodwo Eshun: More Brilliant Than The Sun

Am 28.02.20 um 19:34 schrieb David Mansfield:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have read Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels and enjoyed it.  I was wondering
> if anyone knows of any other informative books on Detroit techno I
> could check out.
>
> Thanks!


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Re: New Detroit House by Topher Horn

[Andrew Duke]

Preview sounds great, Andy. Thanks for the heads up.
Andrew


On Fri., Feb. 28, 2020, 12:14 p.m. Kalle,  wrote:

> Hello List,
>
> back to music related topics seems to be the answer here. So wanted to
> let ya'll now that we will soon release a 12" by Detroit's Topher Horn
> on Yore (YRE-037 / 4 Track 12"). Topher might be familiar to a few peepz
> here for his: The Detroit Jazz Sessions Vol.1, Rocksteady Disco release.
>
> Previews for the forthcoming Yore 12" have been uploaded here for you to
> check out (and comment):
>
>
> https://soundcloud.com/andyvaz/topher-horn-magic-made-real-ep-yore-0374-track-12
>
>
> Peace, Andy
>
>
>

Re: techno

[Joe Marougi]

Ah ok thanks for that.  I’ll be less apprehensive about sharing stuff
moving forward ;)

Joe


On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:33 AM kent williams 
wrote:

> The point of the 313 list is to discuss Detroit techno and related music.
>
> To refer to the FAQ http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/05.html
>
> "Thank you for inquiring about 313. This list was set up by myself to be a
> forum for the discussion of Detroit techno artists or artists directly
> influenced by Detroit techno artists. That said, it would be no great
> coincidence if the list followed the same progression as techno music has.
> That is, just as the works of the original Detroiters has provided the
> framework on which much of techno music has been built upon so too should
> the stated purpose of the list serve as the basis for broader discussion."
>
> This is a quote from George Smiley, not me, as the FAQ states ;-)
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:24 PM Joe Marougi  wrote:
>
>> Ok I wasn't going to paste the link to my latest release since the
>> artists aren't "technically" not from Detroit, but since Marsel posted his
>> then here's mine :-)
>>
>> (Artists are Ricadro Miranda and James Duncan):
>>
>> http://www.groovedis.com/shop/james-duncan-and-sb808-morning-mix-12.html
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 8:53 AM Andrew Duke <
>> andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Derek Carr and Shawn Rudiman are able to maintain a magical quality
>>> level with their quantity of ongoing releases. Inspirational. +1 on the
>>> Cignol. So much goodness.
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri., Feb. 28, 2020, 12:17 p.m. John Sokolowski, <
>>> jrsokolow...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hear, hear on the new Derek Carr!

 Also liking the sound of the new one on Distant Worlds (
 https://soundcloud.com/distantworldtransmissions/sets/cignol-guidance-release)
 - spacey electro acid trip

 
 Cignol - Guidance Release by Distant Worlds | Free Listening on
 SoundCloud
 
 We use cookies for various purposes including analytics and
 personalized marketing. By continuing to use the service, you agree to our
 use of cookies as described in the Cookie Policy. OK
 soundcloud.com


 --
 *From:* jwan allen 
 *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 8:54 AM
 *To:* Ronny Pries 
 *Cc:* 313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
 *Subject:* Re: techno

 Thanks for the tip!

 Also doing it for me, as I'm listening to new shit in another tab, the
 New Derek Carr - Pursuit Part 1 and 2 on Sushitech.

 It's fucking fantastic, I know most of y'all are already familiar with
 his work form the past releases on too many labels i don't feel the need to
 retype here.

 But this album is exactly what we all need to hear and be playing out
 right now. Fresh new music with nods to the past, without being overly
 derivative.

 5 1200s, mics, flames or whatever emoji of your choice  you need to
 realize this is dope music.

 And before I forget, Shawn Rudiman and Jordan (of juju and jordan fame)
 have a release out on local label "love what you feel" out today, now I'm
 biased cause these are my mates, but the music speaks for itself.

 Get some!
 https://itma.bandcamp.com/album/ams-pit-love-what-you-feel-008

 You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming already in
 progress.

 Jwan

 On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:57 AM Ronny Pries  wrote:

 What a sweet release!





 *Von: *Marsel Delsin 
 *Gesendet: *Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 09:26
 *An: *313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
 *Betreff: *techno



 to keep it on-topic - here's some techno



 https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6495/lost-trax/surface-treated







 --
 Technoir Audio
 Broken Planet

 "dealing with your imperfect world"

>>>

Books on Detriot Techno

[David Mansfield]

Hello Everyone,

I have read Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels and enjoyed it.  I was wondering if
anyone knows of any other informative books on Detroit techno I could check
out.

Thanks!

Re: techno

[kent williams]

The point of the 313 list is to discuss Detroit techno and related music.

To refer to the FAQ http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/05.html

"Thank you for inquiring about 313. This list was set up by myself to be a
forum for the discussion of Detroit techno artists or artists directly
influenced by Detroit techno artists. That said, it would be no great
coincidence if the list followed the same progression as techno music has.
That is, just as the works of the original Detroiters has provided the
framework on which much of techno music has been built upon so too should
the stated purpose of the list serve as the basis for broader discussion."

This is a quote from George Smiley, not me, as the FAQ states ;-)

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:24 PM Joe Marougi  wrote:

> Ok I wasn't going to paste the link to my latest release since the artists
> aren't "technically" not from Detroit, but since Marsel posted his then
> here's mine :-)
>
> (Artists are Ricadro Miranda and James Duncan):
>
> http://www.groovedis.com/shop/james-duncan-and-sb808-morning-mix-12.html
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 8:53 AM Andrew Duke 
> wrote:
>
>> Derek Carr and Shawn Rudiman are able to maintain a magical quality level
>> with their quantity of ongoing releases. Inspirational. +1 on the Cignol.
>> So much goodness.
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> On Fri., Feb. 28, 2020, 12:17 p.m. John Sokolowski, <
>> jrsokolow...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hear, hear on the new Derek Carr!
>>>
>>> Also liking the sound of the new one on Distant Worlds (
>>> https://soundcloud.com/distantworldtransmissions/sets/cignol-guidance-release)
>>> - spacey electro acid trip
>>>
>>> 
>>> Cignol - Guidance Release by Distant Worlds | Free Listening on
>>> SoundCloud
>>> 
>>> We use cookies for various purposes including analytics and personalized
>>> marketing. By continuing to use the service, you agree to our use of
>>> cookies as described in the Cookie Policy. OK
>>> soundcloud.com
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* jwan allen 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 8:54 AM
>>> *To:* Ronny Pries 
>>> *Cc:* 313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: techno
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tip!
>>>
>>> Also doing it for me, as I'm listening to new shit in another tab, the
>>> New Derek Carr - Pursuit Part 1 and 2 on Sushitech.
>>>
>>> It's fucking fantastic, I know most of y'all are already familiar with
>>> his work form the past releases on too many labels i don't feel the need to
>>> retype here.
>>>
>>> But this album is exactly what we all need to hear and be playing out
>>> right now. Fresh new music with nods to the past, without being overly
>>> derivative.
>>>
>>> 5 1200s, mics, flames or whatever emoji of your choice  you need to
>>> realize this is dope music.
>>>
>>> And before I forget, Shawn Rudiman and Jordan (of juju and jordan fame)
>>> have a release out on local label "love what you feel" out today, now I'm
>>> biased cause these are my mates, but the music speaks for itself.
>>>
>>> Get some! https://itma.bandcamp.com/album/ams-pit-love-what-you-feel-008
>>>
>>> You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming already in
>>> progress.
>>>
>>> Jwan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:57 AM Ronny Pries  wrote:
>>>
>>> What a sweet release!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von: *Marsel Delsin 
>>> *Gesendet: *Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 09:26
>>> *An: *313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
>>> *Betreff: *techno
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> to keep it on-topic - here's some techno
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6495/lost-trax/surface-treated
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Technoir Audio
>>> Broken Planet
>>>
>>> "dealing with your imperfect world"
>>>
>>

Re: techno

[Joe Marougi]

Ok I wasn't going to paste the link to my latest release since the artists
aren't "technically" not from Detroit, but since Marsel posted his then
here's mine :-)

(Artists are Ricadro Miranda and James Duncan):

http://www.groovedis.com/shop/james-duncan-and-sb808-morning-mix-12.html

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 8:53 AM Andrew Duke 
wrote:

> Derek Carr and Shawn Rudiman are able to maintain a magical quality level
> with their quantity of ongoing releases. Inspirational. +1 on the Cignol.
> So much goodness.
> Andrew
>
>
> On Fri., Feb. 28, 2020, 12:17 p.m. John Sokolowski, <
> jrsokolow...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hear, hear on the new Derek Carr!
>>
>> Also liking the sound of the new one on Distant Worlds (
>> https://soundcloud.com/distantworldtransmissions/sets/cignol-guidance-release)
>> - spacey electro acid trip
>>
>> 
>> Cignol - Guidance Release by Distant Worlds | Free Listening on SoundCloud
>> 
>> We use cookies for various purposes including analytics and personalized
>> marketing. By continuing to use the service, you agree to our use of
>> cookies as described in the Cookie Policy. OK
>> soundcloud.com
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* jwan allen 
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 8:54 AM
>> *To:* Ronny Pries 
>> *Cc:* 313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: techno
>>
>> Thanks for the tip!
>>
>> Also doing it for me, as I'm listening to new shit in another tab, the
>> New Derek Carr - Pursuit Part 1 and 2 on Sushitech.
>>
>> It's fucking fantastic, I know most of y'all are already familiar with
>> his work form the past releases on too many labels i don't feel the need to
>> retype here.
>>
>> But this album is exactly what we all need to hear and be playing out
>> right now. Fresh new music with nods to the past, without being overly
>> derivative.
>>
>> 5 1200s, mics, flames or whatever emoji of your choice  you need to
>> realize this is dope music.
>>
>> And before I forget, Shawn Rudiman and Jordan (of juju and jordan fame)
>> have a release out on local label "love what you feel" out today, now I'm
>> biased cause these are my mates, but the music speaks for itself.
>>
>> Get some! https://itma.bandcamp.com/album/ams-pit-love-what-you-feel-008
>>
>> You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming already in
>> progress.
>>
>> Jwan
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:57 AM Ronny Pries  wrote:
>>
>> What a sweet release!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von: *Marsel Delsin 
>> *Gesendet: *Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 09:26
>> *An: *313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
>> *Betreff: *techno
>>
>>
>>
>> to keep it on-topic - here's some techno
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6495/lost-trax/surface-treated
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Technoir Audio
>> Broken Planet
>>
>> "dealing with your imperfect world"
>>
>

Re: techno

[Andrew Duke]

Derek Carr and Shawn Rudiman are able to maintain a magical quality level
with their quantity of ongoing releases. Inspirational. +1 on the Cignol.
So much goodness.
Andrew


On Fri., Feb. 28, 2020, 12:17 p.m. John Sokolowski, <
jrsokolow...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hear, hear on the new Derek Carr!
>
> Also liking the sound of the new one on Distant Worlds (
> https://soundcloud.com/distantworldtransmissions/sets/cignol-guidance-release)
> - spacey electro acid trip
>
> 
> Cignol - Guidance Release by Distant Worlds | Free Listening on SoundCloud
> 
> We use cookies for various purposes including analytics and personalized
> marketing. By continuing to use the service, you agree to our use of
> cookies as described in the Cookie Policy. OK
> soundcloud.com
>
>
> --
> *From:* jwan allen 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 8:54 AM
> *To:* Ronny Pries 
> *Cc:* 313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
> *Subject:* Re: techno
>
> Thanks for the tip!
>
> Also doing it for me, as I'm listening to new shit in another tab, the New
> Derek Carr - Pursuit Part 1 and 2 on Sushitech.
>
> It's fucking fantastic, I know most of y'all are already familiar with his
> work form the past releases on too many labels i don't feel the need to
> retype here.
>
> But this album is exactly what we all need to hear and be playing out
> right now. Fresh new music with nods to the past, without being overly
> derivative.
>
> 5 1200s, mics, flames or whatever emoji of your choice  you need to
> realize this is dope music.
>
> And before I forget, Shawn Rudiman and Jordan (of juju and jordan fame)
> have a release out on local label "love what you feel" out today, now I'm
> biased cause these are my mates, but the music speaks for itself.
>
> Get some! https://itma.bandcamp.com/album/ams-pit-love-what-you-feel-008
>
> You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming already in
> progress.
>
> Jwan
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:57 AM Ronny Pries  wrote:
>
> What a sweet release!
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von: *Marsel Delsin 
> *Gesendet: *Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 09:26
> *An: *313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
> *Betreff: *techno
>
>
>
> to keep it on-topic - here's some techno
>
>
>
> https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6495/lost-trax/surface-treated
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Technoir Audio
> Broken Planet
>
> "dealing with your imperfect world"
>

Re: techno

[benny blanco®]

The Cignol Release is very similar in style/sound to this one I picked up
last year and a few others in the zone.

some you tube audio clips in page...
https://www.discogs.com/Low-Tape-The-Next-Summer-Of-Love/release/13853083

electro chill deep vibes:
https://www.discogs.com/Miles-Atmospheric-SkyHealer/release/13896190

Stateside, this label unearthed some old Reade Truth tracks and put this
out:
https://www.discogs.com/Reade-Truth-Classic-Space-House/release/13848966
https://readetruth.bandcamp.com/album/classic-space-house (w. audio)

On the more AFXy / Acid / Distorted w. Melodies tip.. another LP from
RX-101, Serenity
https://rx-101.bandcamp.com/album/serenity-2

And finally, some bare bones raw Acid House... so simple basic.. it puts a
HUUUGE smile on my face.
https://www.discogs.com/Paranoid-London-PL/release/14068903


Happy Friday.

benny blanco®
blancodisco.com


On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:17 AM John Sokolowski 
wrote:

> Hear, hear on the new Derek Carr!
>
> Also liking the sound of the new one on Distant Worlds (
> https://soundcloud.com/distantworldtransmissions/sets/cignol-guidance-release)
> - spacey electro acid trip
>
> 
> Cignol - Guidance Release by Distant Worlds | Free Listening on SoundCloud
> 
> We use cookies for various purposes including analytics and personalized
> marketing. By continuing to use the service, you agree to our use of
> cookies as described in the Cookie Policy. OK
> soundcloud.com
>
>
> --
> *From:* jwan allen 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 8:54 AM
> *To:* Ronny Pries 
> *Cc:* 313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
> *Subject:* Re: techno
>
> Thanks for the tip!
>
> Also doing it for me, as I'm listening to new shit in another tab, the New
> Derek Carr - Pursuit Part 1 and 2 on Sushitech.
>
> It's fucking fantastic, I know most of y'all are already familiar with his
> work form the past releases on too many labels i don't feel the need to
> retype here.
>
> But this album is exactly what we all need to hear and be playing out
> right now. Fresh new music with nods to the past, without being overly
> derivative.
>
> 5 1200s, mics, flames or whatever emoji of your choice  you need to
> realize this is dope music.
>
> And before I forget, Shawn Rudiman and Jordan (of juju and jordan fame)
> have a release out on local label "love what you feel" out today, now I'm
> biased cause these are my mates, but the music speaks for itself.
>
> Get some! https://itma.bandcamp.com/album/ams-pit-love-what-you-feel-008
>
> You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming already in
> progress.
>
> Jwan
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:57 AM Ronny Pries  wrote:
>
> What a sweet release!
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von: *Marsel Delsin 
> *Gesendet: *Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 09:26
> *An: *313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
> *Betreff: *techno
>
>
>
> to keep it on-topic - here's some techno
>
>
>
> https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6495/lost-trax/surface-treated
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Technoir Audio
> Broken Planet
>
> "dealing with your imperfect world"
>

Re: techno

[John Sokolowski]

Hear, hear on the new Derek Carr!

Also liking the sound of the new one on Distant Worlds 
(https://soundcloud.com/distantworldtransmissions/sets/cignol-guidance-release) 
- spacey electro acid trip
[https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000646589590-fqqztf-t500x500.jpg]
Cignol - Guidance Release by Distant Worlds | Free Listening on 
SoundCloud
We use cookies for various purposes including analytics and personalized 
marketing. By continuing to use the service, you agree to our use of cookies as 
described in the Cookie Policy. OK
soundcloud.com



From: jwan allen 
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 8:54 AM
To: Ronny Pries 
Cc: 313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: techno

Thanks for the tip!

Also doing it for me, as I'm listening to new shit in another tab, the New 
Derek Carr - Pursuit Part 1 and 2 on Sushitech.

It's fucking fantastic, I know most of y'all are already familiar with his work 
form the past releases on too many labels i don't feel the need to retype here.

But this album is exactly what we all need to hear and be playing out right 
now. Fresh new music with nods to the past, without being overly derivative.

5 1200s, mics, flames or whatever emoji of your choice  you need to realize 
this is dope music.

And before I forget, Shawn Rudiman and Jordan (of juju and jordan fame) have a 
release out on local label "love what you feel" out today, now I'm biased cause 
these are my mates, but the music speaks for itself.

Get some! https://itma.bandcamp.com/album/ams-pit-love-what-you-feel-008

You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming already in progress.

Jwan

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:57 AM Ronny Pries 
mailto:r...@rohformat.de>> wrote:

What a sweet release!





Von: Marsel Delsin
Gesendet: Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 09:26
An: 313 list
Betreff: techno



to keep it on-topic - here's some techno



https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6495/lost-trax/surface-treated






--
Technoir Audio
Broken Planet

"dealing with your imperfect world"

New Detroit House by Topher Horn

[Kalle]

Hello List,

back to music related topics seems to be the answer here. So wanted to 
let ya'll now that we will soon release a 12" by Detroit's Topher Horn 
on Yore (YRE-037 / 4 Track 12"). Topher might be familiar to a few peepz 
here for his: The Detroit Jazz Sessions Vol.1, Rocksteady Disco release.


Previews for the forthcoming Yore 12" have been uploaded here for you to 
check out (and comment):


https://soundcloud.com/andyvaz/topher-horn-magic-made-real-ep-yore-0374-track-12 



Peace, Andy

Re: techno

[jwan allen]

Thanks for the tip!

Also doing it for me, as I'm listening to new shit in another tab, the New
Derek Carr - Pursuit Part 1 and 2 on Sushitech.

It's fucking fantastic, I know most of y'all are already familiar with his
work form the past releases on too many labels i don't feel the need to
retype here.

But this album is exactly what we all need to hear and be playing out right
now. Fresh new music with nods to the past, without being overly derivative.

5 1200s, mics, flames or whatever emoji of your choice  you need to realize
this is dope music.

And before I forget, Shawn Rudiman and Jordan (of juju and jordan fame)
have a release out on local label "love what you feel" out today, now I'm
biased cause these are my mates, but the music speaks for itself.

Get some! https://itma.bandcamp.com/album/ams-pit-love-what-you-feel-008

You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming already in
progress.

Jwan

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:57 AM Ronny Pries  wrote:

> What a sweet release!
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von: *Marsel Delsin 
> *Gesendet: *Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 09:26
> *An: *313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
> *Betreff: *techno
>
>
>
> to keep it on-topic - here's some techno
>
>
>
> https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6495/lost-trax/surface-treated
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Technoir Audio
Broken Planet

"dealing with your imperfect world"

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

[U Design]

Photographers that have some good books...

Dave Krieger

Dave Shanaman doesnt have a book but his work is cherished by many of us
here in Detroit.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 17:45 Mario De Block  wrote:

> I can't see how anyone here would be ok with one member's explicit
> suggestion that simply subscribing to unwritten board rules (on hatefree
> speech, really) would link to being ok with rape culture. I can't see that.
> What else is there than some degree of malevolence, particularly far away
> from male violence in this case (which I detest, too).
>
> 313 Question: does anybody know about fine photography books on nowadays
> Detroit? I liked this one very much: http://www.marchandmeffre.com/detroit.
> But maybe there's more that isn't on sale via usual webshops.
>
> I always felt some kind of link between the melancholy of a partially
> decaying city and some of the better, stringed Detroit techno. Though I
> hope there's enough initiatives still to revive the city center, of course.
>
> Mario
>
>
>
> --
> *Van:* Andrew Green 
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 26 februari 2020 21:14
> *Aan:* Arturo Lopez 
> *CC:* Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: Keep it real (and on topic)
>
> Been lurking here for a long time .. I read the emails when I’m travelling
> and need space.
>
> I know Lerato and seeing her departure saddened me.
>
> I’m not qualified to have an opinion on the Derrick / Michael thing.
> but it’s really bizarre and ironic that the Innovator could be catalysis
> for the 313 list breaking up.  I hope not !
>
>
>
>
> > On 26 Feb 2020, at 19:58, Arturo Lopez  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Yea I'm out, too.  Signal/Noise ratio has not been worth slugging
> through dumpster fire threads for a while now.  Have fun, cheers,
> everybody.
> > -Arturo
> >
> >
>

AW: techno

[Ronny Pries]

What a sweet release!


Von: Marsel Delsin
Gesendet: Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 09:26
An: 313 list
Betreff: techno

to keep it on-topic - here's some techno

https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6495/lost-trax/surface-treated

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

[Ronny Pries]

I won't unsubscribe from the list.

And I wish I could stop right there, yet I'm aware it's an invitation to
rub those thinking about unsubscribing in the wrong way. So...

Don't know how many times during the last week or so I started writing a
reply, then discarded doing so thinking "what's this adding to the
discussion?", "is this gonna make things worse?", "WHY THE FUCK DO I FEEL
LIKE I HAVE TO FIX THIS?". At that point, I always realized I'm not fucking
jesus, it's not my duty to fix anything and who the fuck am I anyway.
Moreso, I have enough shit going on in my life. Things with higher
priorities. Why bother with all of this, right? Maybe some of you can
relate.

Yet, I kept arriving at the same point over and over again.

And I wondered why.

My reasoning so far: Where does it take us, folks with a mutual interest in
the same thing, if we're not able to discuss and settle things without
burning the soil? I mean, isn't this what maturity is be about? Being able
to take a step back from one's own position, leaving room for another to
co-exist. Being able to disagree in a respectful way?

And yes, it's tough. Maybe one of the toughest things these days. This
feeling that one's not able to communicate on the internet anymore without
fearing everything one writes gets ripped apart and re-assembled in the way
maximizing damage. Ever heard about Wiios Laws of communication from the
1970s? They look like this:

The fundamental Wiio's law states that "Communication usually fails, except
by accident". The full set of laws is as follows:

   1. Communication usually fails, except by accident.
  1. If communication can fail, it will.
  2. If communication cannot fail, it still most usually fails.
  3. If communication seems to succeed in the intended way, there's a
  misunderstanding.
  4. If you are content with your message, communication certainly
  fails.
   2. If a message can be interpreted in several ways, it will be
   interpreted in a manner that maximizes the damage.
   3. There is always someone who knows better than you what you meant with
   your message.
   4. The more we communicate, the worse communication succeeds.
  1. The more we communicate, the faster misunderstandings propagate.
   5. In mass communication
   , the important thing
   is not how things are but how they seem to be.
   6. The importance of a news item is inversely proportional to the square
   of the distance.
   7. The more important the situation is, the more probable you had
   forgotten an essential thing that you remembered a moment ago.

Digest those for a moment. Wanna fall for those? I don't. I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of noticing how each and every one holds true for me, too. And it
takes me a lot of stepping back, breathing, reflecting, stepping back some
more and breathing some more to see these patterns at work. Add the 160
known biases to that. Great fun. Not.

The way I see it, it takes two to get upset. One person offering something
to get upset about, another person to follow that invitation.

It's nobody else's but MY responsibility to choose to get upset, what to
get upset about and how I want to deal with that then.

So, what's frustrating me about this entire discussion:

People not acting responsible for themselves, instead blaming each other.
Or even Kent.

Imho, it's exactly this particular lack of responsibility that put the
Trumps of he world in the places where they are. It removes personal room
for taking action. Creating this imminent notion of being unable to
actually do something, eventually letting the idiots in the world win.
Because people stop voting, thinking "what can I do about this anyway?"

I'm sick of it.

I don't think we need to chill.

Especially those who don't want to contribute to one opinion or the other
need to step up and say something.

I'm crossing this off my list for now. If anyone feels like tearing this
apart to fuel a point, I can't do anything about it. But I don't want to
shut the fuck up, acting responsible for others in not contributing out of
the fear that somebody else could actually use my words for their own
agenda. Neither here. Not anywhere else.

Stay sane folks, at least keep trying.

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Peter Bense  wrote:

> It's the pervasive *negativity *by a few members that is off-putting.
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:06 AM The Archiver 
> wrote:
>
>> Well done Kent. You're doing a great job of letting this list implode.
>> It's not the first time that you have stood by and let one list member
>> force others to feel like they have no option but to unsubscribe.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 28 February 2020 03:41
>> *To:* DJ Shiva ; list 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: Keep it real (and on topic)
>>
>>
>>
>> Would be sad to see you go. But it's up to you. Instructions here:
>> 

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

[Peter Bense]

It's the pervasive *negativity *by a few members that is off-putting.

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:06 AM The Archiver 
wrote:

> Well done Kent. You're doing a great job of letting this list implode.
> It's not the first time that you have stood by and let one list member
> force others to feel like they have no option but to unsubscribe.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 28 February 2020 03:41
> *To:* DJ Shiva ; list 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Keep it real (and on topic)
>
>
>
> Would be sad to see you go. But it's up to you. Instructions here:
> http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/02.html
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 7:59 PM DJ Shiva  wrote:
>
> "She could have been any of the 100+ genders she probably believes in and
> it wouldn’t matter.  "
>
> Mmmmh, sure Jan. You tell me everything I need to know about your
> attitude toward gender right there.
>
> For the love of my sanity will someone unsubscribe me from this list?
>
>
> Lisa
> http://www.noncompliantmusic.com
> http://www.soundcloud.com/noncompliant1
>
> 
> "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I
> can hear her breathing." - Arundhati Roy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:58 PM Joe Marougi  wrote:
>
> Appreciate the reply Jodie,
>
>
>
> I’m gonna go out on what I feel is not too far of a limb by saying you’re
> probably the only one here that sees her “apologies” as not being
> backhanded.
>
>
>
> Please don’t deflect by trying to bring in women’s voices etc because
> that’s not the point we are discussing.  She could have been any of the
> 100+ genders she probably believes in and it wouldn’t matter.
>
>
>
> If you can’t see that most here are doing their best to “tolerate” her
> then I don’t now what to tell you.
>
>
>
> We shouldn’t have to barely tolerate anyone here.  Especially if they are
> not at least warned to change their tone.
>
>
>
> Speaking of Rick, spoke to him today about a conversation around a 3
> chairs party here in SF.
>
>
>
> Has everyone here bought my new release yet??
>
>  :-)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:42 AM U Design 
> wrote:
>
> I havent chimed in yet, but seeing Joe's email has prompted me to.
>
>
>
> "We tried to respond respectfully at first..." Sorry, but I didn't see in
> the emails to Denise that there was much respect being given, not at the
> start or throughout.
>
>
>
> She did apologize for how she reacted and people have continued to go
> after her.  As for the comment that "if she was a guy she would've been
> removed long ago" I have to disagree.  I love Tom Cox and I loved the
> heated debates he used to get in.  Him and I had a few as well. I never got
> so touchy that I thought he should be removed from the list. Those threads
> and debates back then pushed the envelope much farther than any of the
> emails I saw by her did.  And in reality, there have been more emails
> discussing this than there were that caused this discussion to begin.
>
>
>
> Her contribution to the music is undeniable and rather than just write her
> off as being hostile, maybe everyone should take stock as to why and what
> pushed her to become hostile in the first place.
>
>
> Removing someone that has contributed as much to the musuc as she has
> would be a shame.
>
>
>
> Just my 2 cents.  And Joe, I'm pretty sure Marcellus and Rick would agree
> with me on this one.  They love the voices of strong opinionated women in
> the scene as much as I do.
>
>
>
> *Jodie
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 15:41 Joe Marougi  wrote:
>
> So I guess there’s the “two wrongs don’t make a right” argument vs “we
> tried to reply respectfully at first but she keeps replying with hostility
> while trying to justify her tone”
>
>
>
> What I replied earlier that wasn’t copied here in the group was asking why
> Kent would risk losing many for the sake of accommodating one.  Makes no
> sense whatsoever.  There are unwritten rules of conduct in each scenario
> which she’s clearly in violation of.
>
>
>
> Lastly I feel that if she was a dude she’d have been 86’d by now (or at
> least on a last warning regarding her tone).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > attention:
> > https://undergroundandblack.com/
> >
> > And it's clear there's a lot of emotional upset and personal
> issues
> > that have spilled onto the list.  I don't want to say that's not
> > appropriate content, but it should be in the context that we're
> a group of
> > friends, widely dispersed geographically, with something in
> common.. So keep
> > in mind you're talking to a friend, and they deserve respect
> even if you
> > disagree with them.
> >
>  --
> >>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
> >>> ethnomusicologist
> >>> schoolcraftwax.work
> >>>
> >> --
> > Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
> > ethnomusicologist
> > schoolcraftwax.work
> >
> 

RE: Keep it real (and on topic)

[The Archiver]

Well done Kent. You're doing a great job of letting this list implode. It's not 
the first time that you have stood by and let one list member force others to 
feel like they have no option but to unsubscribe.

 

 

From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 28 February 2020 03:41
To: DJ Shiva ; list 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

 

Would be sad to see you go. But it's up to you. Instructions here: 
http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/02.html

 

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 7:59 PM DJ Shiva mailto:djsh...@gmail.com> > wrote:

"She could have been any of the 100+ genders she probably believes in and it 
wouldn’t matter.  "

Mmmmh, sure Jan. You tell me everything I need to know about your attitude 
toward gender right there. 

For the love of my sanity will someone unsubscribe me from this list? 




Lisa
http://www.noncompliantmusic.com
http://www.soundcloud.com/noncompliant1


"Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can 
hear her breathing." - Arundhati Roy

 

 

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:58 PM Joe Marougi mailto:jmaro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Appreciate the reply Jodie,

 

I’m gonna go out on what I feel is not too far of a limb by saying you’re 
probably the only one here that sees her “apologies” as not being backhanded. 

 

Please don’t deflect by trying to bring in women’s voices etc because that’s 
not the point we are discussing.  She could have been any of the 100+ genders 
she probably believes in and it wouldn’t matter.  

 

If you can’t see that most here are doing their best to “tolerate” her then I 
don’t now what to tell you. 

 

We shouldn’t have to barely tolerate anyone here.  Especially if they are not 
at least warned to change their tone. 

 

Speaking of Rick, spoke to him today about a conversation around a 3 chairs 
party here in SF.

 

Has everyone here bought my new release yet??

 :-)

 

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:42 AM U Design mailto:uandidesigndetr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I havent chimed in yet, but seeing Joe's email has prompted me to.  

 

"We tried to respond respectfully at first..." Sorry, but I didn't see in the 
emails to Denise that there was much respect being given, not at the start or 
throughout. 

 

She did apologize for how she reacted and people have continued to go after 
her.  As for the comment that "if she was a guy she would've been removed long 
ago" I have to disagree.  I love Tom Cox and I loved the heated debates he used 
to get in.  Him and I had a few as well. I never got so touchy that I thought 
he should be removed from the list. Those threads and debates back then pushed 
the envelope much farther than any of the emails I saw by her did.  And in 
reality, there have been more emails discussing this than there were that 
caused this discussion to begin. 

 

Her contribution to the music is undeniable and rather than just write her off 
as being hostile, maybe everyone should take stock as to why and what pushed 
her to become hostile in the first place. 


Removing someone that has contributed as much to the musuc as she has would be 
a shame.  

 

Just my 2 cents.  And Joe, I'm pretty sure Marcellus and Rick would agree with 
me on this one.  They love the voices of strong opinionated women in the scene 
as much as I do.

 

*Jodie

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 15:41 Joe Marougi mailto:jmaro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

So I guess there’s the “two wrongs don’t make a right” argument vs “we tried to 
reply respectfully at first but she keeps replying with hostility while trying 
to justify her tone” 

 

What I replied earlier that wasn’t copied here in the group was asking why Kent 
would risk losing many for the sake of accommodating one.  Makes no sense 
whatsoever.  There are unwritten rules of conduct in each scenario which she’s 
clearly in violation of. 

 

Lastly I feel that if she was a dude she’d have been 86’d by now (or at least 
on a last warning regarding her tone). 

 

 

 


> attention:
> https://undergroundandblack.com/
>
> And it's clear there's a lot of emotional upset and personal issues
> that have spilled onto the list.  I don't want to say that's not
> appropriate content, but it should be in the context that we're a 
> group of
> friends, widely dispersed geographically, with something in common.. 
> So keep
> in mind you're talking to a friend, and they deserve respect even if 
> you
> disagree with them.
>
 --
>>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
>>> ethnomusicologist
>>> schoolcraftwax.work  
>>>
>> --
> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
> ethnomusicologist
> schoolcraftwax.work  
>


 --

 Lerato Khathi
 http://uzurirecordings.com
 

techno

[Marsel Delsin]

to keep it on-topic - here's some techno

https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6495/lost-trax/surface-treated