(313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
I'm not convinced - although what do I know, not being a dj? No readily accessible trims means you can't really use volume as an effect as much as you might. Also, as for myself, when I do play, I tend to play quite a bit of old records - I mean over ten years old - which are often 'quiet' pressings for any number of reasons. Reaching back to the gains to turn a channel up and then hurriedly going back there to turn it down again for the next record will get irritating, and knowing me, I'll probably forget sometimes ... k -Original Message- From: Gary Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:22 AM To: Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine All down to space on the front panel, you can set the gain while you're cueing up and shouldn't need to tweak it, whereas the EQs, sends, filter etc. all need to be closer to hand while in the mix. Before I got a Xone 32 I thought it was a stupid place to have the gains, but after a week or so of getting used to it I've never given it another thought. It's just a great sounding well built piece of kit. Gary - Original Message - From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine Why are the gains on the back tho 20/11/03 10:29 AM Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll back that one up- the A+H mixers are the only DJ mixers I've ever used where you can actually BOOST frequencies with the EQ and it doesn't sound harsh- they have anew mixer out new month with a big launch party at Cargo in London- I'll let you all know what its like once I've seen it. cheers Jason Brunton On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: The AH mixer has awesome sound quality, and comprises of top end compenents throughout. The EQ is 4 way too, and from my own experience, allows much creativity in the mix, not to mention tighter control of the sound. The facilities (ranging from Aux Send/Return, Filters etc) are also top notch. In short- I have never used anything better. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2003 9:49 To: m a t t [d] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/ 0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5 interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer sorry if this has been posted before... matt :) a couple of comments: 1. i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent labels 2. people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the same set over and over again, or at least variations of that set. it isn't hard to understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel itinerary. doesn't mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable. 3. i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer. what does he gain from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI? (*ducks*) peace lks *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
If you're not a DJ, what was that thing you were doing in Public Life on Saturday? ;-) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:04 PM To: Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) I'm not convinced - although what do I know, not being a dj? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
Well, any number of people will tell you it wasn't djing! ;-) I was told it was enjoybale in any case, so I'm not bothered. Just trying to differentiate myself from the folks whose life seems to depend to a large extent on djing - you know, the Ians, Tristans, Nicks etc. I'm not a patch on that breed of cat! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:06 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) If you're not a DJ, what was that thing you were doing in Public Life on Saturday? ;-) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:04 PM To: Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) I'm not convinced - although what do I know, not being a dj? ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
Ken my man, don't put yourself down too much mate, I think what you do is cool, remember its not all about technical abilities as if were all honest we all train wreck and do silly things so even we are not a patch on the Mills Mays etc , (but then maybe if they were reading this they may send an email simliar to mine if there honest John :) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 20/11/2003 12:18 To: Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) Well, any number of people will tell you it wasn't djing! ;-) I was told it was enjoybale in any case, so I'm not bothered. Just trying to differentiate myself from the folks whose life seems to depend to a large extent on djing - you know, the Ians, Tristans, Nicks etc. I'm not a patch on that breed of cat! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:06 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) If you're not a DJ, what was that thing you were doing in Public Life on Saturday? ;-) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:04 PM To: Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) I'm not convinced - although what do I know, not being a dj? ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
exactly :) ever heard old Billy Nasty Tapes?? could he mix, could he F*ck! but his tunes ( at that stage) and the nature of hey lets party where enough but now I feel that in some ways this has been lost in the environment we are all in..come on lets party not be farty :) -Original Message- From: Gavin Daruvalla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 20/11/2003 12:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Odeluga, Ken; Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) It's all about the music you play (As long as you're competant on the turntables) I mean guys, we're not fucking proggy DJ's are we?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 November 2003 12:42 To: Odeluga, Ken; Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) Ken my man, don't put yourself down too much mate, I think what you do is cool, remember its not all about technical abilities as if were all honest we all train wreck and do silly things so even we are not a patch on the Mills Mays etc , (but then maybe if they were reading this they may send an email simliar to mine if there honest John :) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 20/11/2003 12:18 To: Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) Well, any number of people will tell you it wasn't djing! ;-) I was told it was enjoybale in any case, so I'm not bothered. Just trying to differentiate myself from the folks whose life seems to depend to a large extent on djing - you know, the Ians, Tristans, Nicks etc. I'm not a patch on that breed of cat! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:06 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) If you're not a DJ, what was that thing you were doing in Public Life on Saturday? ;-) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:04 PM To: Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) I'm not convinced - although what do I know, not being a dj? ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
Swearing edited for our Puritan brothers over the pond -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:54 PM To: Gavin Daruvalla; Odeluga, Ken; Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) exactly :) ever heard old Billy Nasty Tapes?? could he mix, could he crikey! but his tunes ( at that stage) and the nature of hey lets party where enough but now I feel that in some ways this has been lost in the environment we are all in..come on lets party not be farty :) -Original Message- From: Gavin Daruvalla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 20/11/2003 12:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Odeluga, Ken; Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) It's all about the music you play (As long as you're competant on the turntables) I mean guys, we're not chuffing proggy DJ's are we?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 November 2003 12:42 To: Odeluga, Ken; Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) Ken my man, don't put yourself down too much mate, I think what you do is cool, remember its not all about technical abilities as if were all honest we all train wreck and do silly things so even we are not a patch on the Mills Mays etc , (but then maybe if they were reading this they may send an email simliar to mine if there honest John :) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 20/11/2003 12:18 To: Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) Well, any number of people will tell you it wasn't djing! ;-) I was told it was enjoybale in any case, so I'm not bothered. Just trying to differentiate myself from the folks whose life seems to depend to a large extent on djing - you know, the Ians, Tristans, Nicks etc. I'm not a patch on that breed of cat! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:06 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) If you're not a DJ, what was that thing you were doing in Public Life on Saturday? ;-) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:04 PM To: Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) I'm not convinced - although what do I know, not being a dj? ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ## # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted
RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
thanks Rob :) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 20/11/2003 12:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gavin Daruvalla; Odeluga, Ken; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) Swearing edited for our Puritan brothers over the pond -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:54 PM To: Gavin Daruvalla; Odeluga, Ken; Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) exactly :) ever heard old Billy Nasty Tapes?? could he mix, could he crikey! but his tunes ( at that stage) and the nature of hey lets party where enough but now I feel that in some ways this has been lost in the environment we are all in..come on lets party not be farty :) -Original Message- From: Gavin Daruvalla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 20/11/2003 12:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Odeluga, Ken; Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) It's all about the music you play (As long as you're competant on the turntables) I mean guys, we're not chuffing proggy DJ's are we?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 November 2003 12:42 To: Odeluga, Ken; Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) Ken my man, don't put yourself down too much mate, I think what you do is cool, remember its not all about technical abilities as if were all honest we all train wreck and do silly things so even we are not a patch on the Mills Mays etc , (but then maybe if they were reading this they may send an email simliar to mine if there honest John :) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 20/11/2003 12:18 To: Robert Taylor; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) Well, any number of people will tell you it wasn't djing! ;-) I was told it was enjoybale in any case, so I'm not bothered. Just trying to differentiate myself from the folks whose life seems to depend to a large extent on djing - you know, the Ians, Tristans, Nicks etc. I'm not a patch on that breed of cat! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:06 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) If you're not a DJ, what was that thing you were doing in Public Life on Saturday? ;-) -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:04 PM To: Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313 Subject: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired) I'm not convinced - although what do I know, not being a dj? ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do
Re: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
i will start off by saying that it is a wounderful sounding mixer, but i would expect nothing less from AH. i use there desk counsels for live sound and they rock. but using the xzone 32 only once and that being in a club it really slanted my opinion on the mixer and the trim pots being on the back was my major beef. On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:04:04 -, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : No readily accessible trims means you can't really use volume as an effect as much as you might. this was a problem. plus the curve on the volume fader is very sharp once you get past the unity point. the curve really reminds me of a scratch mixers curve, but this mixer is not even close to that. i'm used to a 20 db curve and this was sharper then that, maybe you can change it but i did not see a switch. plus the line/phono switch is in the back and is a botton not a switch, so you can not use that either as a kill. i tend to play a lot of electro and techno and i could see the mixer rockin it for house/techno. the smooth mix style, but if you slice it up any, this mixer is a pain in the ass. royally (sorry tim) -Original Message- From: Gary Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] All down to space on the front panel, you can set the gain while you're cueing up and shouldn't need to tweak it, whereas the EQs, sends, filter etc. all need to be closer to hand while in the mix. Before I got a Xone 32 I thought it was a stupid place to have the gains, but after a week or so of getting used to it I've never given it another thought. It's just a great sounding well built piece of kit. you get used to anything you do repeditivily. i have this guitar that has a divit in the 3 fret on the b string. makes all my d cords sharp in the octive. but i have trained myself to mute the octive. but when you jump on my guitar and do not know that you will try to tune it to no end with no luck! and with those trims on the back in a dark club with no switch and a crappy volume fader curve it makes it hard to do what you do and with the deck already stacked against you one more joker in there well you get my point.
Re: (313) AH Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
i'm under the impression that hawtin really helped bring AH into the DJ mixer world after being a top-shelf desk mixer company for so long. for epok- he had AH make this custom dj/studio mixer fusion that he used to plug in 10 pieces of gear (909,303,808,101, efx...) On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i will start off by saying that it is a wounderful sounding mixer, but i would expect nothing less from AH. i use there desk counsels for live sound and they rock. but using the xzone 32 only once and that being in a club it really slanted my opinion on the mixer and the trim pots being on the back was my major beef. On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:04:04 -, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : No readily accessible trims means you can't really use volume as an effect as much as you might. this was a problem. plus the curve on the volume fader is very sharp once you get past the unity point. the curve really reminds me of a scratch mixers curve, but this mixer is not even close to that. i'm used to a 20 db curve and this was sharper then that, maybe you can change it but i did not see a switch. plus the line/phono switch is in the back and is a botton not a switch, so you can not use that either as a kill. i tend to play a lot of electro and techno and i could see the mixer rockin it for house/techno. the smooth mix style, but if you slice it up any, this mixer is a pain in the ass. royally (sorry tim) -Original Message- From: Gary Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] All down to space on the front panel, you can set the gain while you're cueing up and shouldn't need to tweak it, whereas the EQs, sends, filter etc. all need to be closer to hand while in the mix. Before I got a Xone 32 I thought it was a stupid place to have the gains, but after a week or so of getting used to it I've never given it another thought. It's just a great sounding well built piece of kit. you get used to anything you do repeditivily. i have this guitar that has a divit in the 3 fret on the b string. makes all my d cords sharp in the octive. but i have trained myself to mute the octive. but when you jump on my guitar and do not know that you will try to tune it to no end with no luck! and with those trims on the back in a dark club with no switch and a crappy volume fader curve it makes it hard to do what you do and with the deck already stacked against you one more joker in there well you get my point.
