Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-07 Thread skkatter
"But then we found out there already was a band called The Original
Kraftwerk so we had to change our name The New Original
Kraftwerk..."

-S

2009/1/6 Klaas-Jan Jongsma :
> I personally am hoping that now every single member claims to be Kraftwerk
> and starts playing out like that so we now have 4 acts performing under
> names like: Kraftwerk, The real Kraftwerk, The true Kraftwerk, the original
> Kraftwerk etc.
>
>
> On 6 jan 2009, at 11:29, Martin Dust wrote:
>
>>
>> On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:24, Robert Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep Purple -
>>> still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle
>>
>> I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno - the Sugababes
>> and DP have always had at least one original member in tho Rob, I guess it's
>> a rule of "rockism's".
>>
>> Martin
>>
>
>



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Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread bri...@bananamum.com
Now there's a name from the depth's of time that I never thought I would 
see on 313.
Thanks for making my day Martin (even if it did include a little bit of 
sick in the back of my mouth).

Back to lurking now bye...

...steve...
Martin Dust wrote:


On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:49, Robert Taylor wrote:


Hasn't this happened with various progrock bands?



even happened with Bucks Fizz Rob :)






Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I heard Kanye West is stepping in and they're gonna call it Kanyewerk  
- oh and he's bringing his auto-tune. ;)


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On 07/01/2009, at 1:49 AM, r...@rohformat.de wrote:


Psst. This is already way more attention than the topic deserves.

Happy new year, btw! :)

Ronny





RE: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
doubt it - the other splits in members have been acrimonious.  Florian and
Ralf are still good friends afaik.

MEK

"fran...@thatamazingthing"  wrote on
01/06/2009 10:39:59 AM:

> Will Ralph now start to airbrush out Florian's contribution like
> former members claim those 2 did to them after they parted company?
> (if this is contentious Stalin may be more appropriate to appear at
> the end of the thread than Hitler)
>



Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 6 Jan 2009, at 16:39, fran...@thatamazingthing wrote:

Will Ralph now start to airbrush out Florian's contribution like  
former members claim those 2 did to them after they parted company?
(if this is contentious Stalin may be more appropriate to appear at  
the end of the thread than Hitler)




Has Florian actual done anything on the last two albums? Toby should  
know, Toby?


m




RE: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread fran...@thatamazingthing
Will Ralph now start to airbrush out Florian's contribution like former members 
claim those 2 did to them after they parted company?
(if this is contentious Stalin may be more appropriate to appear at the end of 
the thread than Hitler)



Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread southernoutpost
The tone of Pithforks article leaves a lot to be desired. Trying to be  
funny, but falling flat.


P.

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On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:09 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma  wrote:


Check: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/node/148270

No  more Ralf & Florian


KJ


Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 6 Jan 2009, at 15:50, Robert Taylor wrote:


S Club Juniors



Haven't they just come back as The Saturdays?


m


RE: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Robert Taylor
S Club Juniors 


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On 6 Jan 2009, at 15:40, michael.elliot-kni...@fallon.com wrote:

> much like Mark Mothersbaugh starting DEVO 2.0 which was an all kids 
> version of DEVO
>
> it was actually pretty subversive thing for him to do - and Disney 
> bought it
>
> MEK

Mark and Bob 2 do a lot of work for Disney anyway, they just took the
money and ran.

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Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 6 Jan 2009, at 15:40, michael.elliot-kni...@fallon.com wrote:

much like Mark Mothersbaugh starting DEVO 2.0 which was an all kids  
version

of DEVO

it was actually pretty subversive thing for him to do - and Disney  
bought

it

MEK


Mark and Bob 2 do a lot of work for Disney anyway, they just took the  
money and ran.


m


Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
much like Mark Mothersbaugh starting DEVO 2.0 which was an all kids version
of DEVO

it was actually pretty subversive thing for him to do - and Disney bought
it

MEK

Martin Dust  wrote on 01/06/2009 05:08:04 AM:

>
> On 6 Jan 2009, at 11:06, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote:
>
> > So therefore the Village People are the most techno group if only
> > for their unique analog modular design.
>
> Haha it's a good point but I still like the idea as it seems to
> challenge most people, that I like.



Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
"Florian Schneider's Not Ready Yet Kraftwerk Players"

MEK

Klaas-Jan Jongsma  wrote on 01/06/2009 04:38:34 AM:

> I personally am hoping that now every single member claims to be
> Kraftwerk and starts playing out like that so we now have 4 acts
> performing under names like: Kraftwerk, The real Kraftwerk, The true
> Kraftwerk, the original Kraftwerk etc.
>
>
> On 6 jan 2009, at 11:29, Martin Dust wrote:
>
> >
> > On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:24, Robert Taylor wrote:
> >
> >> One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep
> >> Purple -
> >> still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle
> >
> > I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno - the
> > Sugababes and DP have always had at least one original member in tho
> > Rob, I guess it's a rule of "rockism's".
> >
> > Martin
> >
>



Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Nah we all like the  village people... my studio walls are full with  
posters of them


...oh ...right we were talking about Kraftwerk :-)

On 6 jan 2009, at 15:49, r...@rohformat.de wrote:


Psst. This is already way more attention than the topic deserves.

Happy new year, btw! :)

Ronny




RE: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Jussi Lehtonen

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Robert Taylor wrote:


One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep Purple -
still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle


Bill Bailey & Co. have been wielding the rubber chicken for a while, so 
maybe they could grab the axe's handle now. The Amazing +5 KrafTroll 
Slayer. :)



Jussi Lehtonen

  "Metaprogram yourself."


Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 6 Jan 2009, at 12:05, Robert Taylor wrote:


I wasn't referring to the Village People :p


I know :) Man you guys are spiteful *LOL*

m


RE: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Robert Taylor
I wasn't referring to the Village People :p 


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From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] 
Sent: 06 January 2009 12:00
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Subject: Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk


On 6 Jan 2009, at 11:44, Robert Taylor wrote:

> And sell more records

and you have a time machine to go back to the late 80s perhaps :)

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Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 6 Jan 2009, at 11:44, Robert Taylor wrote:


And sell more records


and you have a time machine to go back to the late 80s perhaps :)

m


RE: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Robert Taylor
And sell more records 


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-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] 
Sent: 06 January 2009 11:08
To: james.hurl...@utoronto.ca
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Subject: Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk


On 6 Jan 2009, at 11:06, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote:

> So therefore the Village People are the most techno group if only for 
> their unique analog modular design.

Haha it's a good point but I still like the idea as it seems to
challenge most people, that I like.
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Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

On 6 Jan 2009, at 11:06, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote:

So therefore the Village People are the most techno group if only  
for their unique analog modular design.


That why i am working really hard on my multiple personality disorder  
so that in the near future i can perform under the names of:


- The Moderator
- The Real Moderator
- The Orginal Moderator

I am going to be sooo techno!


Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 6 Jan 2009, at 11:06, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote:

So therefore the Village People are the most techno group if only  
for their unique analog modular design.


Haha it's a good point but I still like the idea as it seems to  
challenge most people, that I like.


Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread james . hurlbut
So therefore the Village People are the most techno group if only for  
their unique analog modular design.


Quoting Klaas-Jan Jongsma :



On 6 jan 2009, at 11:52, Martin Dust wrote:



On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:49, Robert Taylor wrote:


Hasn't this happened with various progrock bands?



even happened with Bucks Fizz Rob :)


The Tramps... (yeah not progrock ;-))






Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma


On 6 jan 2009, at 11:52, Martin Dust wrote:



On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:49, Robert Taylor wrote:


Hasn't this happened with various progrock bands?



even happened with Bucks Fizz Rob :)


The Tramps... (yeah not progrock ;-))


Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:49, Robert Taylor wrote:


Hasn't this happened with various progrock bands?



even happened with Bucks Fizz Rob :)




RE: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Robert Taylor
Hasn't this happened with various progrock bands? 


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-Original Message-
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:grand...@mac.com] 
Sent: 06 January 2009 10:39
To: 313 list
Subject: Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

I personally am hoping that now every single member claims to be
Kraftwerk and starts playing out like that so we now have 4 acts
performing under names like: Kraftwerk, The real Kraftwerk, The true
Kraftwerk, the original Kraftwerk etc.


On 6 jan 2009, at 11:29, Martin Dust wrote:

>
> On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:24, Robert Taylor wrote:
>
>> One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep Purple

>> - still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle
>
> I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno - the 
> Sugababes and DP have always had at least one original member in tho 
> Rob, I guess it's a rule of "rockism's".
>
> Martin
>

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Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:42, Williams, Graham wrote:


"I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno..."

A bit like the Black Dog...


Not at all, Ken is still in the collective.

m


Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:38, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:

I personally am hoping that now every single member claims to be  
Kraftwerk and starts playing out like that so we now have 4 acts  
performing under names like: Kraftwerk, The real Kraftwerk, The true  
Kraftwerk, the original Kraftwerk etc.


Can't really see that happening due to the tight copyright control,  
but after seeing Karl do the "budget" version at Bloc last year, it  
certainly wouldn't be pretty on the eye or ear.


m


Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

*grabs popcorn and waits for Martin his reaction*

:-)



On 6 jan 2009, at 11:42, Williams, Graham wrote:


"I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno..."

A bit like the Black Dog...


G


-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com]
Sent: 06 January 2009 10:29
To: 313 list
Subject: Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk


On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:24, Robert Taylor wrote:


One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep
Purple -
still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle


I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno - the
Sugababes and DP have always had at least one original member in tho
Rob, I guess it's a rule of "rockism's".

Martin





RE: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Williams, Graham
"I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno..."

A bit like the Black Dog...


G


-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] 
Sent: 06 January 2009 10:29
To: 313 list
Subject: Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk


On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:24, Robert Taylor wrote:

> One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep  
> Purple -
> still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle

I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno - the  
Sugababes and DP have always had at least one original member in tho  
Rob, I guess it's a rule of "rockism's".

Martin



Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
I personally am hoping that now every single member claims to be  
Kraftwerk and starts playing out like that so we now have 4 acts  
performing under names like: Kraftwerk, The real Kraftwerk, The true  
Kraftwerk, the original Kraftwerk etc.



On 6 jan 2009, at 11:29, Martin Dust wrote:



On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:24, Robert Taylor wrote:

One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep  
Purple -

still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle


I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno - the  
Sugababes and DP have always had at least one original member in tho  
Rob, I guess it's a rule of "rockism's".


Martin





Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Dust


On 6 Jan 2009, at 10:24, Robert Taylor wrote:

One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep  
Purple -

still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle


I like the idea of no original members actual, very techno - the  
Sugababes and DP have always had at least one original member in tho  
Rob, I guess it's a rule of "rockism's".


Martin



RE: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Robert Taylor
One day Ralph will leave and it will be like Sugababes or Deep Purple -
still the same axe, but with a different blade and handle 


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-Original Message-
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:grand...@mac.com] 
Sent: 06 January 2009 10:09
To: 313 Mailinglist List
Subject: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

Check: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/node/148270

No  more Ralf & Florian


KJ
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(313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk

2009-01-06 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Check: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/node/148270

No  more Ralf & Florian


KJ