Re: (313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.

2012-04-02 Thread Martin Dust

On 2 Apr 2012, at 01:14, Fred Heutte wrote:

 edm crossover to mainstream

When did people start using the term EDM in this context? Seems a little 
strange.

m

Re: (313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.

2012-04-02 Thread Wibo Lammerts
Yeah, had to read it twice, because I thought I either said IDM or EBM ;)

Op 2 april 2012 11:21 heeft Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com het
volgende geschreven:

 On 2 Apr 2012, at 01:14, Fred Heutte wrote:

 edm crossover to mainstream

 When did people start using the term EDM in this context? Seems a little 
 strange.

 m



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Re: (313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.

2012-04-02 Thread Fred Heutte
Around the time the Chemical Brothers went mainstream... :)

In May 1997, the Chems supported by the Orb played at the
Oakland Kaiser Auditorium (the building is currently boarded
up and Occupy Oakland recently made an unsuccessful attempt
to get in...)

The Orb, who we were really there to see, were fantastic, and when
the Chems came on and played Setting Sun and the crowd *rushed
the stage*, we left.

fh

-

On 2 Apr 2012, at 01:14, Fred Heutte wrote:

 edm crossover to mainstream

When did people start using the term EDM in this context? Seems a little 
strange.

m




Re: (313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.

2012-04-01 Thread Ken Odeluga
Jeez. I started to actually read that.

Then I flushed.

Happy Sunday to all.

Ken
--Original Message--
From: Patrick Wacher
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.
Sent: 1 Apr 2012 06:25

My head just exploded…  


http://www.teshno.com/2012/03/richie-hawtin-interviews-skrillex.html  


Peace,
Patrick.



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Re: (313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.

2012-04-01 Thread kent williams
I hope that's an April Fool's joke but having read it all the way
through, it sounds exactly like Richie and Sonny.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:
 My head just exploded…


 http://www.teshno.com/2012/03/richie-hawtin-interviews-skrillex.html


 Peace,
 Patrick.




Re: (313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.

2012-04-01 Thread Emile Facey

This part is quite funny:



so i’m gunna take it back a bit. how old were you in 1993?

i was born in ‘88 so just a couple years old, man.

that was the first big surge of interest in electronic music – moby,  
prodigy, these big parties in san francisco and la. do you remember  
that?






On 1 Apr 2012, at 14:32, Ken Odeluga wrote:


Jeez. I started to actually read that.

Then I flushed.

Happy Sunday to all.

Ken
--Original Message--
From: Patrick Wacher
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.
Sent: 1 Apr 2012 06:25

My head just exploded…


http://www.teshno.com/2012/03/richie-hawtin-interviews-skrillex.html


Peace,
Patrick.



Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device




Re: (313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.

2012-04-01 Thread Fred Heutte
edm crossover to mainstream

Same as it ever was.

fh

PS They still actually have music on MTV?!

-
My head just exploded…


http://www.teshno.com/2012/03/richie-hawtin-interviews-skrillex.html


Peace,
Patrick.







Re: (313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.

2012-04-01 Thread Alexandres Lugo
I thought that was VH1! :)

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote:

 edm crossover to mainstream
 
 Same as it ever was.
 
 fh
 
 PS They still actually have music on MTV?!
 
 -
 My head just exploded…  
 
 
 http://www.teshno.com/2012/03/richie-hawtin-interviews-skrillex.html  
 
 
 Peace,
 Patrick.
 
 
 
 
 


(313) Hawtin interviews Skrillex.

2012-03-31 Thread Patrick Wacher
My head just exploded…  


http://www.teshno.com/2012/03/richie-hawtin-interviews-skrillex.html  


Peace,
Patrick.




Re: (313) Hawtin - Concept 12 records

2010-07-28 Thread ja...@iridite.com
Ha ha - that's quite funny - we had a few of these sets in the shop
which were also water damaged.  You'll probably laugh but I know we
threw at least one of them out and sold the vinyl in plain sleeves for
a couple of quid each.  This was in the days before Discogs and the
complete fetish-isation of Techno of course :)

Jason



On 13 July 2010 03:47, Bill VanLoo b...@chromedecay.org wrote:
 Hi, all.

 I'm considering letting go of my collection of Richie Hawtin's Concept
 12 records. I have 9 of the 12 records, plus the box. My set is
 missing numbers 3, 4, and 8.

 The sleeves and box, unfortunately, are somewhat water-damaged, so
 they're not in pristine, collector condition. Also, the records have
 all been played, some more than others. They're still in fine shape,
 however.

 These were a really pivotal, important set of records for me, but I'd
 really rather be able to invest the money in music or photo equipment
 than have them sitting on a shelf in my studio. Please drop me a line
 if you're interested in purchasing them, and we talk talk further
 off-list.

 Thanks,

 Bill
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(313) Hawtin - Concept 12 records

2010-07-12 Thread Bill VanLoo
Hi, all.

I'm considering letting go of my collection of Richie Hawtin's Concept
12 records. I have 9 of the 12 records, plus the box. My set is
missing numbers 3, 4, and 8.

The sleeves and box, unfortunately, are somewhat water-damaged, so
they're not in pristine, collector condition. Also, the records have
all been played, some more than others. They're still in fine shape,
however.

These were a really pivotal, important set of records for me, but I'd
really rather be able to invest the money in music or photo equipment
than have them sitting on a shelf in my studio. Please drop me a line
if you're interested in purchasing them, and we talk talk further
off-list.

Thanks,

Bill
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(313) Hawtin Podcast Over At RA

2008-04-28 Thread Martin Dust
Just noticed there's a new Richie podcast over at RA, thought I'd pass  
it on.


m


(313) Hawtin track ID

2006-08-31 Thread james . hurlbut
Hey speaking of Hawtpants, can someone help me out and tell me what is the 
jacking old school detroit track with the bassline coming in at 1:43:50 on 
this mp3? Thanks!

http://mp3.4four.org/hosted/94867RichieHawtin[EMAIL PROTECTED](04-
17-05)Part1.mp3



RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-29 Thread Tristan Watkins
 -Original Message-
 From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 25 August 2006 12:14
 To: Jason Brunton
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin
 
 Gonna check out Richie, Sven V., Bone and Mr. Dave Clarke tomorrow @ 
 mysteryland in holland, festival near Amsterdam...also Steve Rachmad 
 and Johannes Heil are around..should be good. And yes, i'm curious to 
 see how the man in the subjectline is doing and what kinda tunez he 
 plays.

So how was it? 
 
Tristan
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RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-29 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
Steve Rachmad played a great set, altough he was on a bit early

DJ Bone ROCKED the place...this man needs to be booked more...GRREAT!

Sven Väth, think of him what u want (i know he's not loved very much on this 
list) ..this man is still up there.
He pulls large crowds and plays with the audience, not ur avarage 
bangbangtechno but a subtle style of minmal, elektro and techno..
great mix, played for 3hrs, and he got me dancing and jumping, loved it! 

Dave Clarke is man for ur techno, now he's a bangbangtechno man...proper 
skills, loads of effects and scratching..high tempo and besides that
Mr. Clarke was even jumping and smiling an dancing behind the dex, and that's 
not often to be seen:-)
Remark: a boy and a girl climb upon the stage to dance in front of Clarke 
during his set, he looks at them, stops the music and doesn't say a word 
but only looks at them and only restarts the music after he looked them of 
stage...seem like he doesn't like dancers or so:-)

Only heard half an hour or so from Hawtin, sounded allright..large crowd in 
front of the stage but still it seemed to miss a spark to get the crowd going.

Also heard Misstress Barbara, she changed a bit from banging techno to minimal 
techno but her set her was banging all the way, was allright so to say.

There was also a stage with the now so popular rock 'n rave bands..guitars and 
dancebeats with a punkattitude. Now where have i heard that before???

Nid and Sancy, anyone??

Nice festival, weather was fine after all and so were the beers

www.3voor12.nl will have sets from the fesitval up a in a few days.

Martijn

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Verzonden: dinsdag 29 augustus 2006 12:46
Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de ; 'Jason Brunton'
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) Hawtin


 -Original Message-
 From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 25 August 2006 12:14
 To: Jason Brunton
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin
 
 Gonna check out Richie, Sven V., Bone and Mr. Dave Clarke tomorrow @
 mysteryland in holland, festival near Amsterdam...also Steve Rachmad 
 and Johannes Heil are around..should be good. And yes, i'm curious to 
 see how the man in the subjectline is doing and what kinda tunez he 
 plays.

So how was it? 
 
Tristan
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Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-29 Thread v12
Mr. Clarke was even jumping and smiling an dancing behind the dex, and
that's not often to be seen:-)


^yet another proper clown - admire or die ;/



(313) Hawtin soap'eras?

2006-08-27 Thread v12
him,vaeth,vilalobos,magda? and all that business(wo)men
i cant believe ppl still discuss their action..
and then even seriously argue about it? like there wasnt anything better to
do/ listen to...

shame.




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread telepathic
I don't know about that and I briefly appeared in a bit about Mathew Jonson and 
the M-nus segment in Slices.

FYI, the producer of Slices DOES have some underground electronic music 
credibility.  You may not know this but it's not some corporate guy from 
t-mobile doing it.  It's Hoschi from Labworks.  That is if you go back to the 
early 90's German techno scene.

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 
  Which is in line with what I was told that these Slices bits were all
  sponsored by the featured artists/labels/etc...
 
 
 Really?  That's just lame then.
 
 MEK
 




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't know about that and I briefly appeared in a bit about Mathew Jonson and
the M-nus segment in Slices.


did they hook you up with some free peaktime minutes?


FYI, the producer of Slices DOES have some underground electronic music
credibility.  You may not know this but it's not some corporate guy from 
t-mobile
doing it.  It's Hoschi from Labworks.  That is if you go back to the early 90's
German techno scene.


you sell out corporate lackeys are mad credible. good luck.

tom


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread telepathic
Dude,

I can't even to afford to pay the rent this month.  WTF is your delusion of 
grandeur re: people who make records ?

Let's talk about all the sampling of vintage r  b and Soul records that some 
of your favorite producers steal from black musicians then.

Good luck to you raising a sane and intelligent offspring.

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


 -- Original message --
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't know about that and I briefly appeared in a bit about Mathew Jonson 
 and
  the M-nus segment in Slices.
 
 did they hook you up with some free peaktime minutes?
 
  FYI, the producer of Slices DOES have some underground electronic music
  credibility.  You may not know this but it's not some corporate guy from 
 t-mobile
  doing it.  It's Hoschi from Labworks.  That is if you go back to the early 
 90's
  German techno scene.
 
 you sell out corporate lackeys are mad credible. good luck.
 
 tom




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Kelly B. Delaney

Look, dude, have your circular arguments about this inane sh*t all you
want, but bringing people's kids into it really isn't cool at all.
Thanks,
The sane and intelligent offspring's mom.

On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dude,

I can't even to afford to pay the rent this month.  WTF is your delusion of 
grandeur re: people who make records ?

Let's talk about all the sampling of vintage r  b and Soul records that some 
of your favorite producers steal from black musicians then.

Good luck to you raising a sane and intelligent offspring.

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


 -- Original message --
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't know about that and I briefly appeared in a bit about Mathew Jonson
 and
  the M-nus segment in Slices.

 did they hook you up with some free peaktime minutes?

  FYI, the producer of Slices DOES have some underground electronic music
  credibility.  You may not know this but it's not some corporate guy from
 t-mobile
  doing it.  It's Hoschi from Labworks.  That is if you go back to the early
 90's
  German techno scene.

 you sell out corporate lackeys are mad credible. good luck.

 tom





Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I can't even to afford to pay the rent this month.


well maybe you should have had them give you cash upfront instead of
exchanging your integrity for free so t-mobile can sell phones to
people in europe who like dance music.


WTF is your delusion of grandeur re: people who make records ?


what delusion of grandeur? i expect people who run independent labels
and make underground music to not beat each other up to suckle from
the corporate teat. you guys are really cool for that.


Let's talk about all the sampling of vintage r  b and Soul records that some of
your favorite producers steal from black musicians then.


what about it? im the insane one, but you compare sampling to hooking
up t-mobile? are you kidding?


Good luck to you raising a sane and intelligent offspring.


thanks, im doing quite well with it already. when he's eclipsed your
mental capacities at age 6 ill let him deal with morons like you on
the interwebs himself. sucker.

tmo


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread telepathic
Hey Man,

I'm poor.  I hope your son does make a better living than you and I.  

FYI, I've made some funny comments about people like Paul Oakenfold in the past 
and I've been where you are treading now.

I'm just defending my friend just like you are defending your son.

So, seriously, if you want to kill me come on up.

Fred Giannelli
117 North St.
Salem, MA  01970
U.S.   A.

617.905.9619

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


 -- Original message --
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I can't even to afford to pay the rent this month.
 
 well maybe you should have had them give you cash upfront instead of
 exchanging your integrity for free so t-mobile can sell phones to
 people in europe who like dance music.
 
  WTF is your delusion of grandeur re: people who make records ?
 
 what delusion of grandeur? i expect people who run independent labels
 and make underground music to not beat each other up to suckle from
 the corporate teat. you guys are really cool for that.
 
  Let's talk about all the sampling of vintage r  b and Soul records that 
  some 
 of
  your favorite producers steal from black musicians then.
 
 what about it? im the insane one, but you compare sampling to hooking
 up t-mobile? are you kidding?
 
  Good luck to you raising a sane and intelligent offspring.
 
 thanks, im doing quite well with it already. when he's eclipsed your
 mental capacities at age 6 ill let him deal with morons like you on
 the interwebs himself. sucker.
 
 tmo




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dude,

I can't even to afford to pay the rent this month.


btw, if youre having trouble paying rent, i have some advice:

Main Entry: 1job
Pronunciation: 'jäb
Function: noun
Etymology: perhaps from obsolete English job lump
1 a : a piece of work; especially : a small miscellaneous piece of
work undertaken on order at a stated rate

get one!

tom


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm poor.  I hope your son does make a better living than you and I.


well im not poor now. and sh*t im still in school (for electrical
engineering BTW, real tough to get through if youre mentally unstable)
and i make good money already doing something i like.


I'm just defending my friend just like you are defending your son.


my son isnt a sellout, i dont need to defend him from anything. when
youre half the person he is already, ill let you know.


So, seriously, if you want to kill me come on up.


i dont want to kill you, i just want to hit you really hard in your
mouth so you look like the punk that you are. how funny would that
look, seeing me hit an old man like yourself?


Fred Giannelli
117 North St.
Salem, MA  01970
U.S.   A.

617.905.9619


i hope you like pizza. i dont think theyll let you pay in m_nus
records or tmobile minutes though.

tom


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread telepathic
Alright, cool.  Since you are going to be sucessful and make lots of money, 
I'll wait for you to you hit me really hard in the mouth and then sue you.

Really Tom, you are clearly unstable.  I do admire your passion though, no 
matter how misguided.

Keep threatening me and put me out of my misery.

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


 -- Original message --
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm poor.  I hope your son does make a better living than you and I.
 
 well im not poor now. and sh*t im still in school (for electrical
 engineering BTW, real tough to get through if youre mentally unstable)
 and i make good money already doing something i like.
 
  I'm just defending my friend just like you are defending your son.
 
 my son isnt a sellout, i dont need to defend him from anything. when
 youre half the person he is already, ill let you know.
 
  So, seriously, if you want to kill me come on up.
 
 i dont want to kill you, i just want to hit you really hard in your
 mouth so you look like the punk that you are. how funny would that
 look, seeing me hit an old man like yourself?
 
  Fred Giannelli
  117 North St.
  Salem, MA  01970
  U.S.   A.
 
  617.905.9619
 
 i hope you like pizza. i dont think theyll let you pay in m_nus
 records or tmobile minutes though.
 
 tom




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Alright, cool.  Since you are going to be sucessful and make lots of money, I'll
wait for you to you hit me really hard in the mouth and then sue you.


im not interested in making lots of money. im interested in not being
old as hell whining on internet mailing lists about not being able to
pay my rent. sh*t, we already dont pay rent, we have a mortgage
because we're not chump suckers.


Really Tom, you are clearly unstable.  I do admire your passion though, no
matter how misguided.


yeah im clearly unstable. right.


Keep threatening me and put me out of my misery.


ill just keep clowning you for being broke and old. and i havent even
started on your music yet. how many years have you been making it
and youve had exactly one record i liked enough to buy, and i paid $5
for it used, which is about what your entire catalogue is worth.
really youre a chronic coattail rider of insanely overrated musicians.
first genesis, now richie. and it hasnt even kept you paid enough to
pay the rent. sucker. they used you like the punk you are.

tom


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread telepathic
Wow Now that's more like it.  Some constructive criticism from someone with 
INTEGRITY.  Someone who I truly admire as a beacon of intelligence and 
sensitivity.

Patiently awaiting to hear your music someday.

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


 -- Original message --
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Alright, cool.  Since you are going to be sucessful and make lots of money, 
 I'll
  wait for you to you hit me really hard in the mouth and then sue you.
 
 im not interested in making lots of money. im interested in not being
 old as hell whining on internet mailing lists about not being able to
 pay my rent. sh*t, we already dont pay rent, we have a mortgage
 because we're not chump suckers.
 
  Really Tom, you are clearly unstable.  I do admire your passion though, no
  matter how misguided.
 
 yeah im clearly unstable. right.
 
  Keep threatening me and put me out of my misery.
 
 ill just keep clowning you for being broke and old. and i havent even
 started on your music yet. how many years have you been making it
 and youve had exactly one record i liked enough to buy, and i paid $5
 for it used, which is about what your entire catalogue is worth.
 really youre a chronic coattail rider of insanely overrated musicians.
 first genesis, now richie. and it hasnt even kept you paid enough to
 pay the rent. sucker. they used you like the punk you are.
 
 tom




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Forward Music
Whoa... I stopped reading this thread because I thought we had a  
return of the 13 yr old brat... but you have a wife and kids and are  
in university?


yikes. That scares me.

So you weren't even born when me, rich and fred started making music?

How can you possible have perspective on Detroit when you were in  
diapers when I was at the Music Institute?


o



On Aug 26, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm poor.  I hope your son does make a better living than you and I.


well im not poor now. and sh*t im still in school (for electrical
engineering BTW, real tough to get through if youre mentally unstable)
and i make good money already doing something i like.


I'm just defending my friend just like you are defending your son.


my son isnt a sellout, i dont need to defend him from anything. when
youre half the person he is already, ill let you know.


So, seriously, if you want to kill me come on up.


i dont want to kill you, i just want to hit you really hard in your
mouth so you look like the punk that you are. how funny would that
look, seeing me hit an old man like yourself?


Fred Giannelli
117 North St.
Salem, MA  01970
U.S.   A.

617.905.9619


i hope you like pizza. i dont think theyll let you pay in m_nus
records or tmobile minutes though.

tom




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread /0
you're both acting like a couple of little hoes.  why dont you just meet at 
demf next year for your ultimate rap battle and get it over with.  i mean my 
god, I talk smack to cox too, but ITS SATURDAY FOR CHRISTS SAKE.  neither of 
you are sitting at work wasting time, you're wasting a perfectly good summer 
saturday


and fyi, if you plan to punch someone in the face you prob ought not chat 
about it on an internet mailing list beforehand, thugs.  raising kids and 
paying rent gets no easier when you have a felony assault on your sheet


im going outside, you both ruined the internet for me today

/rant

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Hawtin


Alright, cool.  Since you are going to be sucessful and make lots of 
money, I'll wait for you to you hit me really hard in the mouth and then 
sue you.


Really Tom, you are clearly unstable.  I do admire your passion though, no 
matter how misguided.


Keep threatening me and put me out of my misery.

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


-- Original message --
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm poor.  I hope your son does make a better living than you and I.

well im not poor now. and sh*t im still in school (for electrical
engineering BTW, real tough to get through if youre mentally unstable)
and i make good money already doing something i like.

 I'm just defending my friend just like you are defending your son.

my son isnt a sellout, i dont need to defend him from anything. when
youre half the person he is already, ill let you know.

 So, seriously, if you want to kill me come on up.

i dont want to kill you, i just want to hit you really hard in your
mouth so you look like the punk that you are. how funny would that
look, seeing me hit an old man like yourself?

 Fred Giannelli
 117 North St.
 Salem, MA  01970
 U.S.   A.

 617.905.9619

i hope you like pizza. i dont think theyll let you pay in m_nus
records or tmobile minutes though.

tom





Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/26/06, Forward Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Whoa... I stopped reading this thread because I thought we had a
return of the 13 yr old brat... but you have a wife and kids and are
in university?

yikes. That scares me.


why is that? wow, people with real lives. its amazing, isnt it?


So you weren't even born when me, rich and fred started making music?


unless you started making music pre-79, i dont think that true. you
guys are old, but if youve been douing it this long id really expect
the results to be better. miles davis you arent.


How can you possible have perspective on Detroit when you were in
diapers when I was at the Music Institute?


the same way anyone else does, listening to the music and feeling it.
you all could probably do with a little more of that instead of
bigging yourselves up

tom


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Forward Music

You are a loser.

end of thread.

Kent?





On Aug 26, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


On 8/26/06, Forward Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Whoa... I stopped reading this thread because I thought we had a
return of the 13 yr old brat... but you have a wife and kids and are
in university?

yikes. That scares me.


why is that? wow, people with real lives. its amazing, isnt it?


So you weren't even born when me, rich and fred started making music?


unless you started making music pre-79, i dont think that true. you
guys are old, but if youve been douing it this long id really expect
the results to be better. miles davis you arent.


How can you possible have perspective on Detroit when you were in
diapers when I was at the Music Institute?


the same way anyone else does, listening to the music and feeling it.
you all could probably do with a little more of that instead of
bigging yourselves up

tom




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/26/06, Forward Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You are a loser.


*I'M* the loser? why dont you do your boy fred a favor and pay him to
put out one of his tunes on your big bad record label.


end of thread.

Kent?


crying for help eh? yeah youre a hard dude.

canada isnt detroit.

tom


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Alex Lugo
I say we throw you both in the river at Hart Plaza.
We'll have a group of people at the bridge with
lifelines. Whoever makes it gets to live. :)

--- /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you're both acting like a couple of little hoes. 
 why dont you just meet at 
 demf next year for your ultimate rap battle and get
 it over with.  i mean my 
 god, I talk smack to cox too, but ITS SATURDAY FOR
 CHRISTS SAKE.  neither of 
 you are sitting at work wasting time, you're wasting
 a perfectly good summer 
 saturday
 
 and fyi, if you plan to punch someone in the face
 you prob ought not chat 
 about it on an internet mailing list beforehand,
 thugs.  raising kids and 
 paying rent gets no easier when you have a felony
 assault on your sheet
 
 im going outside, you both ruined the internet for
 me today
 
 /rant
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:37 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) Hawtin
 
 
  Alright, cool.  Since you are going to be
 sucessful and make lots of 
  money, I'll wait for you to you hit me really hard
 in the mouth and then 
  sue you.
 
  Really Tom, you are clearly unstable.  I do admire
 your passion though, no 
  matter how misguided.
 
  Keep threatening me and put me out of my misery.
 
  telepathic regards,
  the kooky scientist
 
 
  -- Original message
 --
  From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I'm poor.  I hope your son does make a better
 living than you and I.
 
  well im not poor now. and sh*t im still in school
 (for electrical
  engineering BTW, real tough to get through if
 youre mentally unstable)
  and i make good money already doing something i
 like.
 
   I'm just defending my friend just like you are
 defending your son.
 
  my son isnt a sellout, i dont need to defend him
 from anything. when
  youre half the person he is already, ill let you
 know.
 
   So, seriously, if you want to kill me come on
 up.
 
  i dont want to kill you, i just want to hit you
 really hard in your
  mouth so you look like the punk that you are. how
 funny would that
  look, seeing me hit an old man like yourself?
 
   Fred Giannelli
   117 North St.
   Salem, MA  01970
   U.S.   A.
  
   617.905.9619
 
  i hope you like pizza. i dont think theyll let
 you pay in m_nus
  records or tmobile minutes though.
 
  tom
 
  
 


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Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Alex Lugo
I'm not buying your ambivalence! Think of it as
competitive life sport a la The Running Man. ;)

Peace,
Alex

P.S Tom, go change a poopy diaper. I just did, and it
does wonders for calming the nerves. Homeboy exploded
at Xochi's in Mexicantown as I was biting into my
first delicious steak fajita.

The humanity!!!

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You are assuming I want to live
 
 telepathic regards,
 the kooky scientist
 
 
  -- Original message
 --
 From: Alex Lugo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I say we throw you both in the river at Hart
 Plaza.
  We'll have a group of people at the bridge with
  lifelines. Whoever makes it gets to live. :)
  
  --- /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   you're both acting like a couple of little hoes.
 
   why dont you just meet at 
   demf next year for your ultimate rap battle and
 get
   it over with.  i mean my 
   god, I talk smack to cox too, but ITS SATURDAY
 FOR
   CHRISTS SAKE.  neither of 
   you are sitting at work wasting time, you're
 wasting
   a perfectly good summer 
   saturday
   
   and fyi, if you plan to punch someone in the
 face
   you prob ought not chat 
   about it on an internet mailing list beforehand,
   thugs.  raising kids and 
   paying rent gets no easier when you have a
 felony
   assault on your sheet
   
   im going outside, you both ruined the internet
 for
   me today
   
   /rant
   
   - Original Message - 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   313@hyperreal.org
   Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:37 PM
   Subject: Re: (313) Hawtin
   
   
Alright, cool.  Since you are going to be
   sucessful and make lots of 
money, I'll wait for you to you hit me really
 hard
   in the mouth and then 
sue you.
   
Really Tom, you are clearly unstable.  I do
 admire
   your passion though, no 
matter how misguided.
   
Keep threatening me and put me out of my
 misery.
   
telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist
   
   
-- Original message
   --
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I'm poor.  I hope your son does make a
 better
   living than you and I.
   
well im not poor now. and sh*t im still in
 school
   (for electrical
engineering BTW, real tough to get through if
   youre mentally unstable)
and i make good money already doing something
 i
   like.
   
 I'm just defending my friend just like you
 are
   defending your son.
   
my son isnt a sellout, i dont need to defend
 him
   from anything. when
youre half the person he is already, ill let
 you
   know.
   
 So, seriously, if you want to kill me come
 on
   up.
   
i dont want to kill you, i just want to hit
 you
   really hard in your
mouth so you look like the punk that you are.
 how
   funny would that
look, seeing me hit an old man like yourself?
   
 Fred Giannelli
 117 North St.
 Salem, MA  01970
 U.S.   A.

 617.905.9619
   
i hope you like pizza. i dont think theyll
 let
   you pay in m_nus
records or tmobile minutes though.
   
tom
   

   
  
  
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Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-26 Thread Southern Outpost
Damn! Xochi's! Now i'd k*ll, cr*sh and D*stroy to get back over there  
for some of that sweet, sweet food!


Anyone want to book a Southern Outpost tour to Detroit ;) Payment is  
all I can eat Xochi's and that killer 20+ hour flight ;)


Peace,
Patrick.

--
Southern Outpost - Sydney.
Distribution: Clone, NL.
http://www.southernoutpost.com
Infiltrating your sound systems.
--

 Homeboy exploded
at Xochi's in Mexicantown as I was biting into my
first delicious steak fajita.






Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Nazis in Carl Craig's underwear?  What the hell has he been eating?

MEK

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(313) Hawtin Bashing

2006-08-25 Thread kent williams

So far it's entertaining, but stop when you start repeating yourself.

Anyone besides me notice that no one defended Richie in those message threads?
So who is everyone arguing with?

I'd be way more interested in people talking up how great Shake is
(for example) over how much they hate Richie Hawtin and his rockstar
lifestyle.  Or people talking about his genius for self-promotion,
marketing and running a business?  I can think of a lot of Detroit
musicians working day jobs who would be where Richie is if they had
his non-musical skills.


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/24/06, Oliver Barkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You consider these things arrogant or out of control?

I can't imagine what you think of Zappa or The Beatles and their
antics. How about Pink Floyd. hehehe


zappa and pink floyd are complete trash as far as im concerned. the
beatles had music good enough to back up their nonsense.

tmo


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread bethany
Seriously, what the crap is all this?  I missed the mandate that dictated
dj's/musicians were supposed behave as if they had one foot in the convent
or rectory.

Oh that's right...we're all serious artists and completely incapible of
having fun anymore.

-bethany
http://dethlab.net
http://toybreaker.net/blog

 You consider these things arrogant or out of control?

 I can't imagine what you think of Zappa or The Beatles and their
 antics. How about Pink Floyd. hehehe


 We haven't had a good flame war in years!!

 o




 On Aug 24, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

 On 8/24/06, skept [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i'm not saying i think this is or is not true but what has he done
 that
 make you say this?

 uh, what exactly about his behaviour is humble and quiet? was it the
 mix CD with sven vath with the sounds of them jet setting about mixed
 in? or maybe the make out sessions with vilallobos? i bet its the
 documentary. thats some humble sh*t right there. maybe a combination
 of all of the above? when i looked up humble the other day on m-w.com,
 they had a picture of richie right there! incredible!

 tomm




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Seriously, what the crap is all this?  I missed the mandate that dictated
dj's/musicians were supposed behave as if they had one foot in the convent
or rectory.

Oh that's right...we're all serious artists and completely incapible of
having fun anymore.


having fun and being a pompous tool. the line between those is very
thin. or not.

tom


Re: (313) Hawtin Bashing

2006-08-25 Thread Greg Earle

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 at 19:21, Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So far it's entertaining, but stop when you start repeating yourself.

Anyone besides me notice that no one defended Richie in those message 
threads?

So who is everyone arguing with?


They can argue with me.  Bring it on.

You know, 2 months ago, I was in Barcelona during Sonar week.

The nighttime Sonar events were sold out, so I went to Nitza
to see Ellen Allien  Apparat live.

I went early and there was no one there.  Eventually, by 2 AM
the crowd had swelled up to hundreds.  I sat along the side of
the open hall, not knowing a soul.

I was pretty down at the time.  I'd gone through a horrific
breakup last November, and I still haven't recovered from it.
And here I was, in my favorite city in the world, and I didn't
know a single soul in the whole building.

5 minutes later, I catch a blur start to walk swiftly past me.  It
suddenly stops on a dime, turns and says Hey, what're you doing
here?.

I said Hey Rich ... nice to see a familiar face!  But aren't you
playing tonight?  Shouldn't I ask you that same question?!?

He says I came by to say hi to Ellen.  Are you coming over later
[to Sonar Noche]?

No, I can't ... it's sold out, that's why I came here.

Oh!  Well hey, we're leaving in a few minutes, why don't you hop in
the van with us?  Tim (Price) will get you a pass, we'll hook you up

And with that, I was off to Sonar.  I got to watch Ryan Elliott
kill it from sidestage outside at the Sonar Pub, and then watch
Rich  Ricardo have a blast doing the tag-team thing.  I had a
total blast myself.  I cannot thank Rich and Tim (and Tosh!)
enough for all the fun I had that night.  It was the highlight of
my trip.

He doesn't surround himself with sycophants; he surrounds himself
with people like Tim Price (a fun drunk if there ever was one) and
our own Tosh Cooey, his Webmaster, who may still sneak a peak in
at this list once in awhile.

He has been nothing but unrelentingly nice to me ever since I
first introduced myself back in 1999 or whenever it was; and he
has no reason to be - I am the definition of a Nobody, I have nothing
to offer him other than hopefully interesting conversations and fan
appreciation/loyalty.  He has provided some of the most wonderful
moments of my clubbing life, and I feel he deserves my loyalty.  I
continue to enjoy his music and DJ'ing, and if you don't, well,
that's fine - I do, and that's all I care about.

You can all spout off all you want about Rich, I don't care.
All I know is that I know someone different from the target you
spew all your cr*p about, and life is too short for me to worry
about Haters.  I'd rather be a positive person and a positive
influence than a negative Hater any day.

- Greg


Re: (313) Hawtin Bashing

2006-08-25 Thread chthonic streams

Or people talking about his genius for self-promotion,
marketing and running a business?


hah!  sounds like to a lot of people, hawtin is the madonna of techno.


d.


Re: (313) Hawtin Bashing

2006-08-25 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/24/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You can all spout off all you want about Rich, I don't care.
All I know is that I know someone different from the target you
spew all your cr*p about


i bet joe stalin kissed his kids good night. what does that mean?
nothing. a public person's persona is what they get judged on, surely
richie is astute enough to understand that. which means he chooses to
be portrayed as he is. which is why he's a great target.


and life is too short for me to worry
about Haters.  I'd rather be a positive person and a positive
influence than a negative Hater any day.


being called a hater makes me more resolute in my calling out suckers.
im not a hater, i just speak the truth.

tmo


Re: (313) Hawtin Bashing

2006-08-25 Thread Jason Brunton
On a more positive vibe then - Orlando Voorn has a new release on  
Hertz records (a new label, possibly from Belgium) and it's the best  
thing he's done in aeons- emotional techno?  THIS is emotional  
techno- pure cyber-funk with classic OV honking FM sounds and a  
spacious feel to the synth lines- one side even has some crazy disco  
stabs seamlessly integrated with the electronic noise-fest.


Jason





On 25 Aug 2006, at 01:21, kent williams wrote:


So far it's entertaining, but stop when you start repeating yourself.

Anyone besides me notice that no one defended Richie in those  
message threads?

So who is everyone arguing with?

I'd be way more interested in people talking up how great Shake is
(for example) over how much they hate Richie Hawtin and his rockstar
lifestyle.  Or people talking about his genius for self-promotion,
marketing and running a business?  I can think of a lot of Detroit
musicians working day jobs who would be where Richie is if they had
his non-musical skills.




RE: (313) Hawtin Bashing

2006-08-25 Thread Paul Kendrick
Hey J. Cheers for the heads up, I'll check it out. Ive always liked his
stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 August 2006 09:28
To: kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Hawtin Bashing


On a more positive vibe then - Orlando Voorn has a new release on  
Hertz records (a new label, possibly from Belgium) and it's the best  
thing he's done in aeons- emotional techno?  THIS is emotional  
techno- pure cyber-funk with classic OV honking FM sounds and a  
spacious feel to the synth lines- one side even has some crazy disco  
stabs seamlessly integrated with the electronic noise-fest.

Jason





On 25 Aug 2006, at 01:21, kent williams wrote:

 So far it's entertaining, but stop when you start repeating yourself.

 Anyone besides me notice that no one defended Richie in those
 message threads?
 So who is everyone arguing with?

 I'd be way more interested in people talking up how great Shake is 
 (for example) over how much they hate Richie Hawtin and his rockstar 
 lifestyle.  Or people talking about his genius for self-promotion, 
 marketing and running a business?  I can think of a lot of Detroit 
 musicians working day jobs who would be where Richie is if they had 
 his non-musical skills.



RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread Robert Taylor
Amen to the DJ sets and the Plastikman live of the early/mid 90s - they
were certainly inspirational - not sure about pioneering but he's the
first techno DJ I ever heard who bothered to mix so well and to play
such savage acid/techno sets and he was the first electronic act I heard
live who blew me away.
These days he's disappeared up his own arse though, granted. 

-Original Message-
From: Stewart Caig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 August 2006 17:02
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Hawtin

To be honest i dont pay a great deal of attention to Hawtin's career
these days. The last thing I really got into by him was the first
Plastikman album, but he'll always have a place in my heart for States
of Mind, Technarchy, Technotropic and some of the other FUSE stuff,
Plasticity and the handful of amazing DJ sets I heard him play in the
early 90s! He could release an edit of Berlin djs farting now and that
would never change.


- Original Message -
From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org
313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin


Deeetroit keeps on making it and hawtin keeps on takin it! I think it's
hella sick. His methods remind me of missionaries on the coast of
Africa. And I practice tai chi, so tom if he gives you trouble...aww
heck, eff that, just drop the b's on him dunny!

K
mwnb

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:46 AM
To: 313@Hyperreal.Org
Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin

Arghhh!.arghhh!  The monthly Hawtin thread.  Unsub, unsub!!!



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FW: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 August 2006 19:47
 
  Which is in line with what I was told that these Slices 
 bits were all 
  sponsored by the featured artists/labels/etc...
 
 Really?  That's just lame then.

Yeah I walk into my record shop and pick up for free off the counter this DVD 
with SOME interesting stuff on it which I would
probably have to pay £10+ for if it was on sale.  That sucks.

OK, OK, I get your point and it's not without merit but I'm sure you get mine 
too; why not go hey, well I guess this was OK for $0
rather than just knocking everything to the point where nobody wants to do 
anything because they just get sniped at?



Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread Jason Brunton

Hey you- lay off Richie..he's a nice guy, OK?  :)


On 25 Aug 2006, at 10:41, Robert Taylor wrote:

Amen to the DJ sets and the Plastikman live of the early/mid 90s -  
they

were certainly inspirational - not sure about pioneering but he's the
first techno DJ I ever heard who bothered to mix so well and to play
such savage acid/techno sets and he was the first electronic act I  
heard

live who blew me away.
These days he's disappeared up his own arse though, granted.





RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread Robert Taylor
I'm sure he is - I just wish I liked what he played and the way that he
played it - his mixing style is in such a contrast to his early 90s
style - nostalgic sigh 

-Original Message-
From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 August 2006 09:01
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Stewart Caig; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Hawtin

Hey you- lay off Richie..he's a nice guy, OK?  :)


On 25 Aug 2006, at 10:41, Robert Taylor wrote:

 Amen to the DJ sets and the Plastikman live of the early/mid 90s - 
 they were certainly inspirational - not sure about pioneering but he's

 the first techno DJ I ever heard who bothered to mix so well and to 
 play such savage acid/techno sets and he was the first electronic act 
 I heard live who blew me away.
 These days he's disappeared up his own arse though, granted.




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RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
Gonna check out Richie, Sven V., Bone and Mr. Dave Clarke tomorrow @
mysteryland in holland, festival near Amsterdam...also Steve Rachmad
and Johannes Heil are around..should be good. And yes, i'm curious to
see how the man in the subjectline is doing and what kinda tunez he
plays.

To bad it's going to be piss-weather;-(

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Verzonden: vrijdag 25 augustus 2006 11:01
Aan: Robert Taylor
CC: Stewart Caig; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: Re: (313) Hawtin


Hey you- lay off Richie..he's a nice guy, OK?  :)


On 25 Aug 2006, at 10:41, Robert Taylor wrote:

 Amen to the DJ sets and the Plastikman live of the early/mid 90s -
 they
 were certainly inspirational - not sure about pioneering but he's the
 first techno DJ I ever heard who bothered to mix so well and to play
 such savage acid/techno sets and he was the first electronic act I  
 heard
 live who blew me away.
 These days he's disappeared up his own arse though, granted.





Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread P.A. Keur BICT

On 8/25/06, P.A. Keur BICT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 These days he's disappeared up his own arse though, granted.
Is there a better way of putting it?

I`ve enjoyed every bit of Hawtin`s work, up until Hawtin vs Bug - Low Blow 
(Minus 09). But that was already four years ago. After that it has gone 
downhill very fast. Platikman - Closer was his las reasonable piece of work, 
but far from outstanding.

Peter
PS: i`m sorry if this hits the list two times.




 -Original Message-
 From: Stewart Caig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 Sent: 24 August 2006 17:02
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Hawtin

 To be honest i dont pay a great deal of attention to Hawtin's career
 these days. The last thing I really got into by him was the first
 Plastikman album, but he'll always have a place in my heart for States
 of Mind, Technarchy, Technotropic and some of the other FUSE stuff,
 Plasticity and the handful of amazing DJ sets I heard him play in the
 early 90s! He could release an edit of Berlin djs farting now and that
 would never change.


 - Original Message -
 From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org
 313@hyperreal.org 
 Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:54 PM
 Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin


 Deeetroit keeps on making it and hawtin keeps on takin it! I think it's
 hella sick. His methods remind me of missionaries on the coast of
 Africa. And I practice tai chi, so tom if he gives you trouble...aww
 heck, eff that, just drop the b's on him dunny!

 K
 mwnb

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:46 AM
 To: 313@Hyperreal.Org
 Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin

 Arghhh!.arghhh!  The monthly Hawtin thread.  Unsub, unsub!!!



 
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Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread kent williams

Now _that_ is a clash of the large room titans.  PS Bone on a good
night can wipe the floor with those other three guys.

On 8/25/06, Blaauw, Martijn de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Gonna check out Richie, Sven V., Bone and Mr. Dave Clarke tomorrow @
mysteryland in holland, festival near Amsterdam...also Steve Rachmad
and Johannes Heil are around..should be good. And yes, i'm curious to
see how the man in the subjectline is doing and what kinda tunez he
plays.

To bad it's going to be piss-weather;-(



Re: FW: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yeah I walk into my record shop and pick up for free off the counter this DVD 
with SOME
interesting stuff on it which I would
probably have to pay £10+ for if it was on sale.  That sucks.


but i wouldnt want it for $20 or for free. the price of something is
irrelevent if it sucks.


OK, OK, I get your point and it's not without merit but I'm sure you get mine 
too; why not go
hey, well I guess this was OK for $0
rather than just knocking everything to the point where nobody wants to do 
anything
because they just get sniped at?


doing it for free for love is one thing, doing it for free for
promotion is another. it doesnt give someone a free pass

tom


RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
Richie and Sven he can maybe wipe the floor with...not sure about Clarke
though...think of him what u want, to me D. Clarke is a league of his
own.

Bone is playing in the tent hosted by Dave Clarke, by the way...



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Verzonden: vrijdag 25 augustus 2006 14:25
Aan: list 313
Onderwerp: Re: (313) Hawtin


Now _that_ is a clash of the large room titans.  PS Bone on a good night
can wipe the floor with those other three guys.

On 8/25/06, Blaauw, Martijn de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gonna check out Richie, Sven V., Bone and Mr. Dave Clarke tomorrow @ 
 mysteryland in holland, festival near Amsterdam...also Steve Rachmad 
 and Johannes Heil are around..should be good. And yes, i'm curious to 
 see how the man in the subjectline is doing and what kinda tunez he 
 plays.

 To bad it's going to be piss-weather;-(





RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-25 Thread Gary . Girard



Was thinking the same thing myself !





   
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Richie and Sven he can maybe wipe the floor with...not sure about Clarke
though...think of him what u want, to me D. Clarke is a league of his
own.

Bone is playing in the tent hosted by Dave Clarke, by the way...



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Now _that_ is a clash of the large room titans.  PS Bone on a good night
can wipe the floor with those other three guys.

On 8/25/06, Blaauw, Martijn de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gonna check out Richie, Sven V., Bone and Mr. Dave Clarke tomorrow @
 mysteryland in holland, festival near Amsterdam...also Steve Rachmad
 and Johannes Heil are around..should be good. And yes, i'm curious to
 see how the man in the subjectline is doing and what kinda tunez he
 plays.

 To bad it's going to be piss-weather;-(








(313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
Wanna see Hawtin make some tea?? Wanne see Hawtin riding a bike?? Wanna
see the tattoos of Hawtin??? Wanna see Hawtins' mum??

Check this trailer: http://www.eb-slices.net/

Pioneers of Electronic music vol. 1 - a documentary about Richie Hawtin

How rock and roll

Martijn




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




and a million fanboys just pissed their pants

MEK

Blaauw, Martijn de  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/24/2006
09:56:26 AM:

 Wanna see Hawtin make some tea?? Wanne see Hawtin riding a bike?? Wanna
 see the tattoos of Hawtin??? Wanna see Hawtins' mum??

 Check this trailer: http://www.eb-slices.net/

 Pioneers of Electronic music vol. 1 - a documentary about Richie Hawtin

 How rock and roll

 Martijn





Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/24/06, Blaauw, Martijn de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wanna see Hawtin make some tea?? Wanne see Hawtin riding a bike?? Wanna
see the tattoos of Hawtin??? Wanna see Hawtins' mum??

Check this trailer: http://www.eb-slices.net/

Pioneers of Electronic music vol. 1 - a documentary about Richie Hawtin

How rock and roll


uh, maybe im missing something, but what exactly did he pioneer? he
didnt invent acid, he didnt invent minimal techno, he didnt invent
sh*t. all he has pioneered is how to recycle other peoples' ideas and
make various white folks around the world worship you. which is good
for something, i guess. someone should sock that dood. i'll do it if
no one else will.

tom


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Jason Brunton
I don't actually mind him that much although I don't find much of his  
music very interesting- I'm not too keen on the crazed Hawtin fanboys  
who worship him but then he's probably not too crazy about them  
either :)


I can never work out if he's just a nice guy who's pretty clever  
about his marketing in order to make himself stand out from the crowd  
or if he really believes that micro mixing of 1000's of snippets of  
tracks and people releasing unfinished work for other people to remix  
at home is really the future?  He certainly knows how to get people  
talking though!  You'd better watch out Tom- he might be one of these  
weedy looking guys who does Tai Chi and will pull your head off  
before you've landed the first blow!


Jason


On 24 Aug 2006, at 16:19, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


On 8/24/06, Blaauw, Martijn de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wanna see Hawtin make some tea?? Wanne see Hawtin riding a bike??  
Wanna

see the tattoos of Hawtin??? Wanna see Hawtins' mum??

Check this trailer: http://www.eb-slices.net/

Pioneers of Electronic music vol. 1 - a documentary about Richie  
Hawtin


How rock and roll


uh, maybe im missing something, but what exactly did he pioneer? he
didnt invent acid, he didnt invent minimal techno, he didnt invent
sh*t. all he has pioneered is how to recycle other peoples' ideas and
make various white folks around the world worship you. which is good
for something, i guess. someone should sock that dood. i'll do it if
no one else will.

tom




RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arghhh!.arghhh!  The monthly Hawtin thread.  Unsub, unsub!!!



Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread robin

You'd better watch out Tom- he might be one of these weedy
looking guys who does Tai Chi and will pull your head off beforeyou've
landed the first blow!

More like a master of Chai Tea from the sounds of it  :)

Anyway, Tom's fronted up to Bone. I don't see him backing down when
confronted with Richie

 :)

robin...


Re: (313) Hawtin vs Bone Vs Tom

2006-08-24 Thread Jason Brunton

Wow- Bone is over here next week- I'll ask him who won the tussle!


On 24 Aug 2006, at 16:40, robin wrote:


 You'd better watch out Tom- he might be one of these weedy
looking guys who does Tai Chi and will pull your head off before  
you've landed the first blow!


More like a master of Chai Tea from the sounds of it :)

Anyway, Tom's fronted up to Bone. I don't see him backing down when  
confronted with Richie


:)

robin...




Re: (313) Hawtin vs Bone Vs Tom

2006-08-24 Thread robin


Didn't Tom put on an obviously fake beard and Bone didn't recognise him 
at DEMF?


Oh wait

:)

robin...


Jason Brunton wrote:

Wow- Bone is over here next week- I'll ask him who won the tussle!



RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
Deeetroit keeps on making it and hawtin keeps on takin it! I think it's
hella sick. His methods remind me of missionaries on the coast of
Africa. And I practice tai chi, so tom if he gives you trouble...aww
heck, eff that, just drop the b's on him dunny!

K
mwnb

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:46 AM
To: 313@Hyperreal.Org
Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin

Arghhh!.arghhh!  The monthly Hawtin thread.  Unsub, unsub!!!


RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
Yes...i'm bored..so  i thought ' why not' :-)



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Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread robin


Does anyone actually consider Hawtin anything to do with Detroit now 
though? I know I don't.


I thought he was The Future Sound of Berlin now?

Yeah yeah I know we should talk about somat else, like is Fedde Le Grand 
the new Richie, trading on the Detroit name (Put your hands up for 
Detroit, I love this city).


robin...

Stoddard, Kamal wrote:

Deeetroit keeps on making it and hawtin keeps on takin it! I think it's
hella sick. His methods remind me of missionaries on the coast of
Africa. And I practice tai chi, so tom if he gives you trouble...aww
heck, eff that, just drop the b's on him dunny!



Re: (313) Hawtin vs Bone Vs Tom

2006-08-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/24/06, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Didn't Tom put on an obviously fake beard and Bone didn't recognise him
at DEMF?


next year i'm gonna have to rock a i'm tom cox shirt so there's no mistakes!

tom


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/24/2006 10:41:57 AM:

 More like a master of Chai Tea from the sounds of it  :)


LOL! :D

MEK



Re: (313) Hawtin vs Bone Vs Tom

2006-08-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




But then you should make about a couple hundred of them and give them out.
Your enemy will be confused when they see all those people walking around.
They won't know which person to strike.
That's when you come up from behind and BLAM!!!  Only then will they know
the real Tom Cox.

bwwwhahahahaha

*ehem*

MEK

Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/24/2006 11:03:37
AM:

 On 8/24/06, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Didn't Tom put on an obviously fake beard and Bone didn't recognise him
  at DEMF?

 next year i'm gonna have to rock a i'm tom cox shirt so there's
nomistakes!

 tom



FW: (313) Hawtin vs Bone Vs Tom

2006-08-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 August 2006 17:27
 
 
 But then you should make about a couple hundred of them and 
 give them out.
 Your enemy will be confused when they see all those people 
 walking around.

Yeah but what happens when Bone sees me wearing mine before he sees anyone 
else?  Unlike Tom I'm taking notice of how thick that
guy's neck is.



Re: FW: (313) Hawtin vs Bone Vs Tom

2006-08-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Don't dance down front?  ;-)

MEK

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
08/24/2006 11:32:39 AM:

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 24 August 2006 17:27
 
 
  But then you should make about a couple hundred of them and
  give them out.
  Your enemy will be confused when they see all those people
  walking around.

 Yeah but what happens when Bone sees me wearing mine before he sees
 anyone else?  Unlike Tom I'm taking notice of how thick that
 guy's neck is.




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Stewart Caig
To be honest i dont pay a great deal of attention to Hawtin's career these 
days. The last thing I really got into by him was the first Plastikman 
album, but he'll always have a place in my heart for States of Mind, 
Technarchy, Technotropic and some of the other FUSE stuff, Plasticity and 
the handful of amazing DJ sets I heard him play in the early 90s! He could 
release an edit of Berlin djs farting now and that would never change.



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin


Deeetroit keeps on making it and hawtin keeps on takin it! I think it's
hella sick. His methods remind me of missionaries on the coast of
Africa. And I practice tai chi, so tom if he gives you trouble...aww
heck, eff that, just drop the b's on him dunny!

K
mwnb

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:46 AM
To: 313@Hyperreal.Org
Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin

Arghhh!.arghhh!  The monthly Hawtin thread.  Unsub, unsub!!!



Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/24/06, Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

To be honest i dont pay a great deal of attention to Hawtin's career these
days. The last thing I really got into by him was the first Plastikman
album, but he'll always have a place in my heart for States of Mind,
Technarchy, Technotropic and some of the other FUSE stuff, Plasticity and
the handful of amazing DJ sets I heard him play in the early 90s! He could
release an edit of Berlin djs farting now and that would never change.


im almost to the point where his clown-like activity today will taint
his material that i do like to the point where i wont be able to
listen to it anymore. thats really the reason i detest his current
thing so much, because he is obviously capable of making good stuff.
if he had been a joker from day 1 it would be much easier to just not
care.

tom


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Guilherme Menegon Arantes
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 04:40:22PM +0100, Jason Brunton wrote:
 I don't actually mind him that much although I don't find much of his  
 music very interesting- I'm not too keen on the crazed Hawtin fanboys  


Me neither, since probably the Plastikman days as S. Craig mentioned.


 I can never work out if he's just a nice guy who's pretty clever  
 about his marketing in order to make himself stand out from the crowd  


I belive this is more the case...

Which is in line with what I was told that these Slices bits were all 
sponsored by the featured artists/labels/etc...

G

--

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RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread John Sokolowski
The best part of the trailer is Derrick's quote. One thing about Derrick, he always seems to call it like it is. Always calling it like it is has probably gotten people in the Dmad atDerrick too :)
Cheers!





From:"Blaauw, Martijn de " [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:313@hyperreal.orgSubject:(313) HawtinDate:Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:56:26 +0200Wanna see Hawtin make some tea?? Wanne see Hawtin riding a bike?? Wannasee the tattoos of Hawtin??? Wanna see Hawtins' mum??Check this trailer: http://www.eb-slices.net/Pioneers of Electronic music vol. 1 - a documentary about Richie HawtinHow rock and rollMartijn



Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight





 Which is in line with what I was told that these Slices bits were all
 sponsored by the featured artists/labels/etc...


Really?  That's just lame then.

MEK



Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/24/06, John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The best part of the trailer is Derrick's quote. One thing about Derrick, he
always seems to call it like it is. Always calling it like it is has
probably gotten people in the D mad at Derrick too :)


i like the part where kevin saunderson says back then he was a humble
quiet guy. what he didnt say is that he's not that anymore.

to


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Fred Heutte
I actually thought his set at the festival this year was OK, but
he hasn't really rocked my world for many years, and like Stewart
it was the early material that really did it.  And although I suppose
it's not a groundbreaking track, I'm still very fond of Do Da Doo.

fh

-
To be honest i dont pay a great deal of attention to Hawtin's career these
days. The last thing I really got into by him was the first Plastikman
album, but he'll always have a place in my heart for States of Mind,
Technarchy, Technotropic and some of the other FUSE stuff, Plasticity and
the handful of amazing DJ sets I heard him play in the early 90s! He could
release an edit of Berlin djs farting now and that would never change.


- Original Message -
From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin


Deeetroit keeps on making it and hawtin keeps on takin it! I think it's
hella sick. His methods remind me of missionaries on the coast of
Africa. And I practice tai chi, so tom if he gives you trouble...aww
heck, eff that, just drop the b's on him dunny!

K
mwnb

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:46 AM
To: 313@Hyperreal.Org
Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin

Arghhh!.arghhh!  The monthly Hawtin thread.  Unsub, unsub!!!





Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread robin



I actually thought his set at the festival this year was OK, but
he hasn't really rocked my world for many years, and like Stewart
it was the early material that really did it.  And although I suppose
it's not a groundbreaking track, I'm still very fond of Do Da Doo.


Yeah I saw him once (mid nineties) in Manchester (probs with a few  
others off this list) and he was a phenomenal DJ.


robin...



RE: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread diana potts

 I think Hawtin has had a great career- he's
definitely done a lot. However, I think a documentary
would be more suitable 10 years down the line. Hawtin
is a bi-product of his own creativity and the
creativity that was happening around him at the time.
I hope this is mentioned in the film.Perhaps the
important questions is whether Hawtin himself
considers himself more Canadian/Detroit or
British/European at this point. Detroit seems to be
his glory ghost.

 For me personally, I think a documentary that draws
parallels b/t Detroit's up and down economy  racial
history and the creation/rise/fall etc. its music
scene (both bands and electronic music) would be far
more interesting, and perhaps appropriate. Or even
perhaps a doc about the back and forth influences b/t
Detroit and Windsor.

d


-

The best part of the trailer is Derrick's quote. One
thing about Derrick, he always seems to call it like
it is. Always calling it like it is has probably
gotten people in the D mad at Derrick too :)


Cheers!


-

From:  Blaauw, Martijn de 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  313@hyperreal.org
Subject:  (313) Hawtin
Date:  Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:56:26 +0200
Wanna see Hawtin make some tea?? Wanne see Hawtin
riding a bike?? Wanna
see the tattoos of Hawtin??? Wanna see Hawtins' mum??

Check this trailer: http://www.eb-slices.net/

Pioneers of Electronic music vol. 1 - a documentary
about Richie Hawtin

How rock and roll

Martijn







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Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread /0

this post has loads of irony-value

- Original Message - 
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Hawtin



On 8/24/06, Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To be honest i dont pay a great deal of attention to Hawtin's career 
these

days. The last thing I really got into by him was the first Plastikman
album, but he'll always have a place in my heart for States of Mind,
Technarchy, Technotropic and some of the other FUSE stuff, Plasticity and
the handful of amazing DJ sets I heard him play in the early 90s! He 
could

release an edit of Berlin djs farting now and that would never change.


im almost to the point where his clown-like activity today will taint
his material that i do like to the point where i wont be able to
listen to it anymore. thats really the reason i detest his current
thing so much, because he is obviously capable of making good stuff.
if he had been a joker from day 1 it would be much easier to just not
care.

tom



Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/24/06, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

this post has loads of irony-value


your posts contain nothing of any value.

tmo


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread skept
i'm not saying i think this is or is not true but what has he done that 
make you say this?



Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

  what he didnt say is that he's not that anymore.




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 8/24/06, skept [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i'm not saying i think this is or is not true but what has he done that
make you say this?


uh, what exactly about his behaviour is humble and quiet? was it the
mix CD with sven vath with the sounds of them jet setting about mixed
in? or maybe the make out sessions with vilallobos? i bet its the
documentary. thats some humble sh*t right there. maybe a combination
of all of the above? when i looked up humble the other day on m-w.com,
they had a picture of richie right there! incredible!

tomm


Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread skept

was it the mix CD with sven vath with the sounds of them jet setting
 about mixed in?

haha yeah i forgot about that. talking about eating steak and flying or 
something. make out sessions with villalobos? not familiar with that 
unless you mean those videos with him and sven. but it's not like he had 
control over that. i guess maybe some of the statements in that lost in 
berlin article seem pretentious.



Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

On 8/24/06, skept [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i'm not saying i think this is or is not true but what has he done that
make you say this?


uh, what exactly about his behaviour is humble and quiet? was it the
mix CD with sven vath with the sounds of them jet setting about mixed
in? or maybe the make out sessions with vilallobos? i bet its the
documentary. thats some humble sh*t right there. maybe a combination
of all of the above? when i looked up humble the other day on m-w.com,
they had a picture of richie right there! incredible!

tomm





Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread Oliver Barkovic

You consider these things arrogant or out of control?

I can't imagine what you think of Zappa or The Beatles and their  
antics. How about Pink Floyd. hehehe



We haven't had a good flame war in years!!

o




On Aug 24, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


On 8/24/06, skept [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i'm not saying i think this is or is not true but what has he done  
that

make you say this?


uh, what exactly about his behaviour is humble and quiet? was it the
mix CD with sven vath with the sounds of them jet setting about mixed
in? or maybe the make out sessions with vilallobos? i bet its the
documentary. thats some humble sh*t right there. maybe a combination
of all of the above? when i looked up humble the other day on m-w.com,
they had a picture of richie right there! incredible!

tomm




Re: (313) Hawtin

2006-08-24 Thread diana potts


I'm going to save myself a lot of deleted Email and
cut to the end:


nazi  carl craig's underwear.


ok...let's move on.
(fred-you rock)


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(313) Hawtin question

2006-07-28 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
Does anybody on the list know where i can find a list of the upcoming
dj-gigs of Richie Hawtin??? I have checked m-nus-com, plastikman.com and
richiehawtin.com but no luck sofar...

Thanx for ur help.

Martijn



RE: (313) Hawtin question

2006-07-28 Thread Jason Trolian
http://m-nus.com/calendar/my_calendar.cgi 


Jason Trolian

-Original Message-
From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:38 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Hawtin question

Does anybody on the list know where i can find a list of the upcoming
dj-gigs of Richie Hawtin??? I have checked m-nus-com, plastikman.com and
richiehawtin.com but no luck sofar...

Thanx for ur help.

Martijn






RE: (313) Hawtin question

2006-07-28 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
Thanx...guess i didn't look to good at the m-nus site...

Martijn

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Jason Trolian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Verzonden: vrijdag 28 juli 2006 14:12
Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de ; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) Hawtin question


http://m-nus.com/calendar/my_calendar.cgi 


Jason Trolian

-Original Message-
From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:38 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Hawtin question

Does anybody on the list know where i can find a list of the upcoming
dj-gigs of Richie Hawtin??? I have checked m-nus-com, plastikman.com and
richiehawtin.com but no luck sofar...

Thanx for ur help.

Martijn







RE: (313) Hawtin question

2006-07-28 Thread Jason Trolian
I had to link to it from the Plus8 site.  


Jason Trolian

-Original Message-
From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 8:16 AM
To: Jason Trolian; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Hawtin question

Thanx...guess i didn't look to good at the m-nus site...

Martijn

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Verzonden: vrijdag 28 juli 2006 14:12
Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de ; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: (313) Hawtin question


http://m-nus.com/calendar/my_calendar.cgi 


Jason Trolian

-Original Message-
From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:38 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Hawtin question

Does anybody on the list know where i can find a list of the upcoming
dj-gigs of Richie Hawtin??? I have checked m-nus-com, plastikman.com and
richiehawtin.com but no luck sofar...

Thanx for ur help.

Martijn










(313) Hawtin and Mixmag

2006-05-01 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
Dunno if the rest of the magazine is okay to read but the cd sounds
allright..
'The biggest and most wide spread dance magazine in the world Mix Mag
offers a free, exclusively mixed CD with every issue. May 2006's issue
is done by Richie Hawtin; DE9 lite. 
The album (titled Electronic Adventures) is a strong collection of the
cream-of-the-cream in minimal land at the moment, ranging from our Dutch
pride 2000 and one to Troy Pierce to Sebo K to one of the higlights
Alex Under's El Encuentro. The complete tracklist: 
01. 2000 and One - Leaf 2
02. Cosmic Sandwich - Man In A Box 
03. Sleeparchive - ACD-Voice 
04. Shane Berry - For A Moment 
05. Audio Werner - Trust 
06. Heartz 4 - Intimacy Girl 
07. Tadeo - Granade Granata 
08. Troy Pierce - 25 Bitches (remix by Gaiser) 
09. Fraktion - This Fever Works 
10. Lansley  Brocksieper - Popa Wheely 
11. Sebo K - Horizons 
12. Alex Under - El Encuentro 
13. Loco Dice - Seeing Through Shadows'

Regards,

Martijn



Re: (313) Hawtin and Mixmag

2006-05-01 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Actually I bought the last issue - first time in ages and really  
enjoyed it. I found the story on electro minimalism a bit late but  
the Nathan Fake interview was good - some good bits and pieces in  
there. Less drug manual, more music.


On 01/05/2006, at 11:55 PM, Blaauw, Martijn de wrote:


Dunno if the rest of the magazine is okay to read but the cd sounds
allright..
'The biggest and most wide spread dance magazine in the world Mix Mag
offers a free, exclusively mixed CD with every issue. May 2006's issue
is done by Richie Hawtin; DE9 lite.
The album (titled Electronic Adventures) is a strong collection  
of the
cream-of-the-cream in minimal land at the moment, ranging from our  
Dutch

pride 2000 and one to Troy Pierce to Sebo K to one of the higlights
Alex Under's El Encuentro. The complete tracklist:
01. 2000 and One - Leaf 2
02. Cosmic Sandwich - Man In A Box
03. Sleeparchive - ACD-Voice
04. Shane Berry - For A Moment
05. Audio Werner - Trust
06. Heartz 4 - Intimacy Girl
07. Tadeo - Granade Granata
08. Troy Pierce - 25 Bitches (remix by Gaiser)
09. Fraktion - This Fever Works
10. Lansley  Brocksieper - Popa Wheely
11. Sebo K - Horizons
12. Alex Under - El Encuentro
13. Loco Dice - Seeing Through Shadows'

Regards,

Martijn







Re: (313) Hawtin at the Winter Games

2006-02-04 Thread skkatter
http://www.eatock.com/media/discovery/discovery05.jpg

-skkatter

On 01/02/06, seek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did someone say Hitler?
  http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/reviews/Skolbeats2004/Richie-Hawtin-00.jpg

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Re: (313) Hawtin at the Winter Games

2006-02-01 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
and here i thought when i first saw this that it was a joke. i guess
the joke is on me. first tiesto. now hawtin. i see a pattern.

to

On 1/31/05, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 this has already been posted, and anyone on the minus mailing list received
 a copy of that release

 - Original Message -
 From: De Block, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:11 AM
 Subject: (313) Hawtin at the Winter Games


  might be nice to know
 
  Richie Hawtin creates music for the Winter Games
  posted on 16-01-2006
 
 
  Olympic ceremony producers K2006 invited Richie Hawtin to collaborate
  with renowned Italian choreographer, Enzo Cosimi, on a key section of
  the XXth Olympics Winter Games Opening Ceremony taking place in Torino
  on February 10th. The new composition titled 9:20 was written  produced
  by Hawtin and will accompany Cosimi's provocative choreography featuring
  famous Italian dancer Robert Bolle along with dozens of other dancers,
  performers and acrobats. Hawtin  Cosimi worked together in
  Hawtin's Berlin studio to fully realize the drama and emotions of
  Cosimi's performers, building an evolving soundscape of sounds and
  effects to accompany the different movements of Cosimi's piece. Ceremony
  producers have assembled an energetic program planned for the Opening
  Ceremonies with a theme originating around the foundation elements of
  Rhythm, Passion and Speed. Internationally renown not only for his music
  and global DJ performances, but also for his interest in new creative
  technologies, Hawtin is in perfect harmony with both the concept and its
  global audience. Enzo and I are very much interested in pushing
  boundaries, both as artists and for our audiences. Working together for
  the Opening Ceremonies of the Winter Games delivers the creative
  endeavor to not only entertain a huge audience, but to also introduce
  them to sights and sounds that they may have never experienced before,
  says Hawtin from his studio in Berlin. Born in England and raised in
  Windsor, Ontario, Canada, Richie Hawtin is highly regarded
  internationally for his recordings both as Richie Hawtin and his
  pseudonym as Plastikman while on the world stage as one of electronic
  music's most innovative and in demand performers. His recent album, DE9
  | Transitions boasts a CD mix plus DVD featuring a 5.1 surround mix
  produced by Hawtin. Today, in between touring the globe, the Canadian
  producer spends time between his studios in Windsor, Canada and Berlin,
  Germany.
 
  Mario
 



Re: (313) Hawtin at the Winter Games

2006-02-01 Thread seek


And so on:
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/hindi/article/11666.html
(Anthony Rother's identical Indian cousin?!)

seek


- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. 



and here i thought when i first saw this that it was a joke. i guess
the joke is on me. first tiesto. now hawtin. i see a pattern.

On 1/31/05, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

this has already been posted, and anyone on the minus mailing list received
a copy of that release

- Original Message -
From: De Block, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:11 AM
Subject: (313) Hawtin at the Winter Games


 might be nice to know

 Richie Hawtin creates music for the Winter Games
 posted on 16-01-2006


 Olympic ceremony producers K2006 invited Richie Hawtin to collaborate
 with renowned Italian choreographer, Enzo Cosimi, on a key section of
 the XXth Olympics Winter Games Opening Ceremony taking place in Torino
 on February 10th. The new composition titled 9:20 was written  produced
 by Hawtin and will accompany Cosimi's provocative choreography featuring
 famous Italian dancer Robert Bolle along with dozens of other dancers,
 performers and acrobats. Hawtin  Cosimi worked together in
 Hawtin's Berlin studio to fully realize the drama and emotions of
 Cosimi's performers, building an evolving soundscape of sounds and
 effects to accompany the different movements of Cosimi's piece. Ceremony
 producers have assembled an energetic program planned for the Opening
 Ceremonies with a theme originating around the foundation elements of
 Rhythm, Passion and Speed. Internationally renown not only for his music
 and global DJ performances, but also for his interest in new creative
 technologies, Hawtin is in perfect harmony with both the concept and its
 global audience. Enzo and I are very much interested in pushing
 boundaries, both as artists and for our audiences. Working together for
 the Opening Ceremonies of the Winter Games delivers the creative
 endeavor to not only entertain a huge audience, but to also introduce
 them to sights and sounds that they may have never experienced before,
 says Hawtin from his studio in Berlin. Born in England and raised in
 Windsor, Ontario, Canada, Richie Hawtin is highly regarded
 internationally for his recordings both as Richie Hawtin and his
 pseudonym as Plastikman while on the world stage as one of electronic
 music's most innovative and in demand performers. His recent album, DE9
 | Transitions boasts a CD mix plus DVD featuring a 5.1 surround mix
 produced by Hawtin. Today, in between touring the globe, the Canadian
 producer spends time between his studios in Windsor, Canada and Berlin,
 Germany.

 Mario






Re: (313) Hawtin at the Winter Games

2006-02-01 Thread fab.

and what pattern would that be?

- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Hawtin at the Winter Games


and here i thought when i first saw this that it was a joke. i guess
the joke is on me. first tiesto. now hawtin. i see a pattern.

to

On 1/31/05, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this has already been posted, and anyone on the minus mailing list 
received

a copy of that release

- Original Message -
From: De Block, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:11 AM
Subject: (313) Hawtin at the Winter Games


 might be nice to know

 Richie Hawtin creates music for the Winter Games
 posted on 16-01-2006


 Olympic ceremony producers K2006 invited Richie Hawtin to collaborate
 with renowned Italian choreographer, Enzo Cosimi, on a key section of
 the XXth Olympics Winter Games Opening Ceremony taking place in Torino
 on February 10th. The new composition titled 9:20 was written  produced
 by Hawtin and will accompany Cosimi's provocative choreography featuring
 famous Italian dancer Robert Bolle along with dozens of other dancers,
 performers and acrobats. Hawtin  Cosimi worked together in
 Hawtin's Berlin studio to fully realize the drama and emotions of
 Cosimi's performers, building an evolving soundscape of sounds and
 effects to accompany the different movements of Cosimi's piece. Ceremony
 producers have assembled an energetic program planned for the Opening
 Ceremonies with a theme originating around the foundation elements of
 Rhythm, Passion and Speed. Internationally renown not only for his music
 and global DJ performances, but also for his interest in new creative
 technologies, Hawtin is in perfect harmony with both the concept and its
 global audience. Enzo and I are very much interested in pushing
 boundaries, both as artists and for our audiences. Working together for
 the Opening Ceremonies of the Winter Games delivers the creative
 endeavor to not only entertain a huge audience, but to also introduce
 them to sights and sounds that they may have never experienced before,
 says Hawtin from his studio in Berlin. Born in England and raised in
 Windsor, Ontario, Canada, Richie Hawtin is highly regarded
 internationally for his recordings both as Richie Hawtin and his
 pseudonym as Plastikman while on the world stage as one of electronic
 music's most innovative and in demand performers. His recent album, DE9
 | Transitions boasts a CD mix plus DVD featuring a 5.1 surround mix
 produced by Hawtin. Today, in between touring the globe, the Canadian
 producer spends time between his studios in Windsor, Canada and Berlin,
 Germany.

 Mario






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Re: (313) Hawtin at the Winter Games

2006-02-01 Thread Matt Kane's Brain

the 313 hivemind doesn't like hawtin anymore, so he's a Trance dj

obFanboy: ken ishii was before both, he did the music for the 96  
winter games' opening ceremonies!


On Feb 1, 2006, at 9:55, fab. wrote:

and what pattern would that be?


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Re: (313) Hawtin at the Winter Games

2006-02-01 Thread fab.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

so like, he's not 313 anymore? i guess he is now 030 right?

fab.

if it's not UR it ain't from tha D

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From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Hawtin at the Winter Games



the 313 hivemind doesn't like hawtin anymore, so he's a Trance dj

obFanboy: ken ishii was before both, he did the music for the 96  winter 
games' opening ceremonies!


On Feb 1, 2006, at 9:55, fab. wrote:

and what pattern would that be?


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