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doh! haven't been reading the list.. too busy these days. I still have t-shirts from last year. If you want them, I'll have them available Sunday. EMAIL ME OFF LIST IF YOU WANT THEM. Going for $15. I have plenty of XLs, a few L's, some S's in Mens and just about ALL sizes for Women/Girls. PS I'm playing at Exodus Saturday night, will have them there, Titonton is playing from 11-1 and I'm 1-3, will spam y'all about the details of the party in a sec. Thanks! +odd -- On May 6, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Michael Elliot-Knight wrote: *sigh* (shakes head at line-up) won't be there again - but is anyone surprised about that? but I've got me a Sines designed 313 shirt so if you've got binoculars maybe you'll spot me in the garden getting down and dirty MEK Disclaimer The information in this email and any attachments may contain proprietary and confidential information that is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, retention or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. When addressed to our clients or vendors, any information contained in this e-mail or any attachments is subject to the terms and conditions in any governing contract. If you have received this e- mail in error, please immediately contact the sender and delete the e-mail.
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Grace Jones is awesome, but she is only one act of many The crowd has changed at Sonar too, much in the same way that Movement's seems to have changed. And Sonar is now more notable for the off-Sonar events than the main events themselves. Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:mkb.dirty...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 May 2009 21:09 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Denise Dalphond; kent williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:23, Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk wrote: It sounds like the festival has gone in the same direction Sonar has I don't know how to interpret as I have not paid attention to Sonar in several years. But... Grace Jones?! -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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I don't have access to the actual paperwork, but the articles I've found on the subject don't support your assertion. http://www.mail-archive.com/313@hyperreal.org/msg46121.html http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1444029/20010524/bukem_ltj.jhtml http://www.answers.com/topic/carl-craig On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com wrote: Only, Carol didn't fire carl. The city did.
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Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:16:26 +0100 Von: Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk Grace Jones is awesome, but she is only one act of many seconded. it's more or less the only reason I'm still thinking about going there on friday. And Sonar is now more notable for the off-Sonar events than the main events themselves. see you there. ;) -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a
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On 6 May 2009, at 19:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Looks awesome! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=56327624 ;) All I'll say is it's a good job Tom Cox isn't still on here, he'd have a fit. :) robin...
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There's been many a comment online at the absence of black people from that promo vid Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: 07 May 2009 09:56 To: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? On 6 May 2009, at 19:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Looks awesome! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=5 6327624 ;) All I'll say is it's a good job Tom Cox isn't still on here, he'd have a fit. :) robin... # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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I was going to make that comment but I held back. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk wrote: There's been many a comment online at the absence of black people from that promo vid Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: 07 May 2009 09:56 To: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? On 6 May 2009, at 19:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Looks awesome! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=5 6327624 ;) All I'll say is it's a good job Tom Cox isn't still on here, he'd have a fit. :) robin... # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 # -- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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Ive always wanted to go but looking at that has put me right off. Im sure it's not a real representation of what happens but its designed to get the ravers in I guess. And yeah where the Detroit cats at ? Rav -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: 07 May 2009 09:56 To: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? On 6 May 2009, at 19:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Looks awesome! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=563 27624 ;) All I'll say is it's a good job Tom Cox isn't still on here, he'd have a fit. :) robin... To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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You do get a glimpse of Minx, briefly. Not that she doesn't deserve recognition, but in terms of the video as a whole she's the person featured least likely to be a draw for the Moby fans. Paxahau are trying to run this as a going concern, and when your concern is how many bracelets you sell, you are going to try and feature people who might have some appeal beyond the rabid techno fans, like the people on this mailing list. And in case you haven't noticed, as a cohort, 313 listers are aging out of the festival-going age group. What percentage of people under 25 even know what an E-Mail list is? We are not the people for whom Paxahau is working so hard to make a festival. We could have a perfect DEMF for the 313 list, but there's only 442 of us (I just counted), and even if we could count on the general awesomeness of any festival WE curated drawing 20 times that many people, it wouldn't begin to pay for itself. Plus even if the lineup was generated by the 313 list, there'd still be all sorts of hating going on about it. If you're going to the festival, look at the afterparties, too. Maybe it's just me but there are more opportunities to see really fantastic lineups for dirt cheap than ever before. And you can see Omar-S during the day at a rooftop party! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Mann, Ravinder r.m...@leedsmet.ac.uk wrote: Ive always wanted to go but looking at that has put me right off. Im sure it's not a real representation of what happens but its designed to get the ravers in I guess. And yeah where the Detroit cats at ? Rav
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Pretty sure Omar S will be playing a four hour set so he can do his thing PROPER... ~David On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:44 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: If you're going to the festival, look at the afterparties, too. Maybe it's just me but there are more opportunities to see really fantastic lineups for dirt cheap than ever before. And you can see Omar-S during the day at a rooftop party!
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Well said Kent. I'm really excited about a lot of the afterparties. And even though there is a lot of silliness booked for the festival every year, there are a lot of great musicians that I can't wait to see perform. The fact that Al Ester and Stacey Hale are spinning, even though they are not producers, is pretty cool. They have been taking care of Detroit's electronic music scene for decades. Minx is playing the main stage - in the afternoon - but it's the main stage! All the Submerge people playing, I'll be excited to see them too. And the electrobounce/Starski Clutch business should be great as usual. Obviously that promo video is not meant for us or for most Detroiters. Paxahau is trying to keep this festival going, and even though they are not putting on a Detroit music festival and they don't do a good job in getting Detroit residents to attend, particularly young people, this festival is still happening here and I think that's a good thing. It would be so fabulous if it really was a festival that was about Detroit music and that drew a larger local and African American crowd. I would love to know if the festival planners actually have conversations about these issues when they plan the festival. I wonder if they debate whether or not to extend a discount or free entry to Detroit residents. I wonder if they really think Moby is the shit. I wonder if they really are big fans of Benny Benassi. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. Denise On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: You do get a glimpse of Minx, briefly. Not that she doesn't deserve recognition, but in terms of the video as a whole she's the person featured least likely to be a draw for the Moby fans. Paxahau are trying to run this as a going concern, and when your concern is how many bracelets you sell, you are going to try and feature people who might have some appeal beyond the rabid techno fans, like the people on this mailing list. And in case you haven't noticed, as a cohort, 313 listers are aging out of the festival-going age group. What percentage of people under 25 even know what an E-Mail list is? We are not the people for whom Paxahau is working so hard to make a festival. We could have a perfect DEMF for the 313 list, but there's only 442 of us (I just counted), and even if we could count on the general awesomeness of any festival WE curated drawing 20 times that many people, it wouldn't begin to pay for itself. Plus even if the lineup was generated by the 313 list, there'd still be all sorts of hating going on about it. If you're going to the festival, look at the afterparties, too. Maybe it's just me but there are more opportunities to see really fantastic lineups for dirt cheap than ever before. And you can see Omar-S during the day at a rooftop party! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Mann, Ravinder r.m...@leedsmet.ac.uk wrote: Ive always wanted to go but looking at that has put me right off. Im sure it's not a real representation of what happens but its designed to get the ravers in I guess. And yeah where the Detroit cats at ? Rav -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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It sounds like the festival has gone in the same direction Sonar has Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Denise Dalphond [mailto:ddalp...@umail.iu.edu] Sent: 07 May 2009 16:05 To: kent williams Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? Well said Kent. I'm really excited about a lot of the afterparties. And even though there is a lot of silliness booked for the festival every year, there are a lot of great musicians that I can't wait to see perform. The fact that Al Ester and Stacey Hale are spinning, even though they are not producers, is pretty cool. They have been taking care of Detroit's electronic music scene for decades. Minx is playing the main stage - in the afternoon - but it's the main stage! All the Submerge people playing, I'll be excited to see them too. And the electrobounce/Starski Clutch business should be great as usual. Obviously that promo video is not meant for us or for most Detroiters. Paxahau is trying to keep this festival going, and even though they are not putting on a Detroit music festival and they don't do a good job in getting Detroit residents to attend, particularly young people, this festival is still happening here and I think that's a good thing. It would be so fabulous if it really was a festival that was about Detroit music and that drew a larger local and African American crowd. I would love to know if the festival planners actually have conversations about these issues when they plan the festival. I wonder if they debate whether or not to extend a discount or free entry to Detroit residents. I wonder if they really think Moby is the shit. I wonder if they really are big fans of Benny Benassi. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. Denise On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: You do get a glimpse of Minx, briefly. Not that she doesn't deserve recognition, but in terms of the video as a whole she's the person featured least likely to be a draw for the Moby fans. Paxahau are trying to run this as a going concern, and when your concern is how many bracelets you sell, you are going to try and feature people who might have some appeal beyond the rabid techno fans, like the people on this mailing list. And in case you haven't noticed, as a cohort, 313 listers are aging out of the festival-going age group. What percentage of people under 25 even know what an E-Mail list is? We are not the people for whom Paxahau is working so hard to make a festival. We could have a perfect DEMF for the 313 list, but there's only 442 of us (I just counted), and even if we could count on the general awesomeness of any festival WE curated drawing 20 times that many people, it wouldn't begin to pay for itself. Plus even if the lineup was generated by the 313 list, there'd still be all sorts of hating going on about it. If you're going to the festival, look at the afterparties, too. Maybe it's just me but there are more opportunities to see really fantastic lineups for dirt cheap than ever before. And you can see Omar-S during the day at a rooftop party! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Mann, Ravinder r.m...@leedsmet.ac.uk wrote: Ive always wanted to go but looking at that has put me right off. Im sure it's not a real representation of what happens but its designed to get the ravers in I guess. And yeah where the Detroit cats at ? Rav -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu wrote: Minx is playing the main stage - in the afternoon - but it's the main stage! As she has done before. That was the year my friend Keleigh was in charge of the press passes, so I was able to get pics of Minx and others from right behind the decks... It's not a big secret that the daytime main stage slots are actually the booby prizes of the festival. It can be rainy, or hot, or both, and the crowd seems to not be much into it until the sun starts going down. I wonder if they really think Moby is the shit. I wonder if they really are big fans of Benny Benassi. I think when you promote shows for a living your standards are a little different. You want to make money -- not just greed at work, but also the 'pinball' part of the job -- if you win you get to keep playing. You want to work with people who are professional, and not a pain in the ass. Benny and Rich are successful professionals who are guaranteed draws. And whatever you might think about their music, or whether they should be headlining at DEMF, it's clear to me that they both were thrilled to be there. You might think they're soulless hacks, but they're not dumb and they know what Detroit means to dance music. In a sense, Moby and Benny need Detroit a hell of a lot more than Detroit needs them. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. While I might quibble with some of Paxahau's decisions artistically, I think it's grossly unfair to talk sh1t about their motivations. Paxahau would be just fine without the festival -- in fact financially, they might actually be better off not doing it. Paxahau does the festival because they want the festival to continue, because they believe in it's importance to Detroit, and because doing a festival of this scale successfully is a huge accomplishment.
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Me again... :) I don't think the Paxahau folks are a bunch of racists or don't care about Detroit. But that is often the general consensus by many critics. I am really interested in their motivations and personal histories with Detroit. I've interviewed one of the Paxahau DJs and we talked a bit about this. Trying to interview Jason Huvare, but that probably won't happen until after the festival. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. While I might quibble with some of Paxahau's decisions artistically, I think it's grossly unfair to talk sh1t about their motivations. Paxahau would be just fine without the festival -- in fact financially, they might actually be better off not doing it. Paxahau does the festival because they want the festival to continue, because they believe in it's importance to Detroit, and because doing a festival of this scale successfully is a huge accomplishment. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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I'd worry a lot more about that if I thought the stuff we prattle on about here had any real influence. And it seems to be a sort of any press is good press statement, which I don't really think is necessarily true. Reading about R*ch*e or M*by on 313 list wouldn't likely make anyone go out and buy their music. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:54 AM, m...@m50.net wrote: Like my man on the list said earlier, discussing Richie Hawtin's hype machine just builds the hype. Same goes for the folks in this video.
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On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:23, Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk wrote: It sounds like the festival has gone in the same direction Sonar has I don't know how to interpret as I have not paid attention to Sonar in several years. But... Grace Jones?! -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg
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I can't help but feel like you guys are directing these comments at me because I know you both read my blog. I just wanted to point out two things 1) I asked the question IS Paxahau racist?, I didn't claim that they were, necessarily. I am really really glad that the festival is still going on, and Paxahau is doing a great job. 2) The dramatic change in the percentage of black performers to white performers between 05 and 06 is a fact. Whether or not that was a conscious decision on Paxahau's part is clearly unknown. But the facts are the facts, the festival got a lot whiter when white people were given control of it. And I think that's a shame, and I don't see what's wrong with pointing it out. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu wrote: Me again... :) I don't think the Paxahau folks are a bunch of racists or don't care about Detroit. But that is often the general consensus by many critics. I am really interested in their motivations and personal histories with Detroit. I've interviewed one of the Paxahau DJs and we talked a bit about this. Trying to interview Jason Huvare, but that probably won't happen until after the festival. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. While I might quibble with some of Paxahau's decisions artistically, I think it's grossly unfair to talk sh1t about their motivations. Paxahau would be just fine without the festival -- in fact financially, they might actually be better off not doing it. Paxahau does the festival because they want the festival to continue, because they believe in it's importance to Detroit, and because doing a festival of this scale successfully is a huge accomplishment. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Ok, I don't think I have EVER written this much to this list. Frank, I think that the data that you put together and your analysis of it all is really important. Yes, you put the words Paxahau and racist together, but I have also heard a lot from local DJs and producers in interviews I have been doing over the past year and five months here. Some are critical, some are not, some are on the fence. So right now, that's where I'm coming from. And...Carol Marvin is white :) But I read ya loud and clear! Alright now, goodnight! On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: I can't help but feel like you guys are directing these comments at me because I know you both read my blog. I just wanted to point out two things 1) I asked the question IS Paxahau racist?, I didn't claim that they were, necessarily. I am really really glad that the festival is still going on, and Paxahau is doing a great job. 2) The dramatic change in the percentage of black performers to white performers between 05 and 06 is a fact. Whether or not that was a conscious decision on Paxahau's part is clearly unknown. But the facts are the facts, the festival got a lot whiter when white people were given control of it. And I think that's a shame, and I don't see what's wrong with pointing it out. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu wrote: Me again... :) I don't think the Paxahau folks are a bunch of racists or don't care about Detroit. But that is often the general consensus by many critics. I am really interested in their motivations and personal histories with Detroit. I've interviewed one of the Paxahau DJs and we talked a bit about this. Trying to interview Jason Huvare, but that probably won't happen until after the festival. I think it's way more complicated than just Paxahau is racist or they are just a bunch of guys from the suburbs who don't care about Detroit. While I might quibble with some of Paxahau's decisions artistically, I think it's grossly unfair to talk sh1t about their motivations. Paxahau would be just fine without the festival -- in fact financially, they might actually be better off not doing it. Paxahau does the festival because they want the festival to continue, because they believe in it's importance to Detroit, and because doing a festival of this scale successfully is a huge accomplishment. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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Carole Marvin being white, actually, was neither here nor there. That's a whole long crazy story, which you've probably heard most of. It started out the first year she was content to have Carl be Artistic director, and she was content to leverage her experience with the Jazz Festival to help put something together on the Plaza. At some point, though, she kind of lost the plot, and fired Craig, I guess because she felt like the festival was 'hers.' Unfortunately she'd fired a massively popular figure locally and internationally, and came off looking pretty Lady Macbeth. She put on the festival in 2002 with a group of people who traditionally did not get along with the 'Detroit Inner Circle' so well, and ... well I'm sure you can read up on it. She still owns the trademark on DEMF as far as I know. I feel kind of sorry for her because she went from hero to villain in Detroit, and I don't know if she ever quite figured out why. You should try and talk to Alan Oldham some time. He lives in Chicago now. Whatever you hear in Detroit he's the contrarian. He's a great guy, but whatever someone else in Detroit tells you is white, he'll tell you it's black. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu wrote: And...Carol Marvin is white :) But I read ya loud and clear! Alright now, goodnight!
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I will also be attending, not that I am anyone special, but I got one of Todd's shirts last year and hope to see some of'em around the festival! Getting there earlyish Friday to hopefully hop by Oslo and anything else that's good... maybe the Old Miami, too? It'll be my 37th birthday. If there is any 313-ish meetup activity, I'd be interested in meeting others. :) cheers. Debating driving down to Austin for Dopplereffekt's gig at the Beauty Bar, then driving straight back to Dallas to catch my flight to Detroit. However, the Dopplereffekt thing might not be worth it: 5/21/2009 10:00 PM at Beauty Bar 617 E. 7th St., Austin, Texas 78701 Cost: Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty DOPPLEREFFEKT, Discobelle DJs, Markus with A K. 21+. Dopplereffekt’s first US live performance. Presented by: Scion House Party. Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty. RSVP strictly required. Early arrival is suggested as space is limited. Entry is NOT guaranteed. Line up subject to change. For more info. go to: http://www.scion.com/houseparty/ This to me implies it could be a cluster-F and people might not get in. any 313ers trying to make the Austin gig? Let me know, I might be up for it! On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Ramon Crespo ra...@ramoncrespo.com wrote: I'll be there Friday - Tues. I'll be at Oslo Fri/Sat nights unless someone gives me a reason not to. On May 2, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
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pgh / technoir audio will be in the D yet again. I've yet to miss a festival, so I'm looking forward to this annual rite of passage. on the Music front: Just in time for the Stewart Walker event here in Pittsburgh last Friday, we got in the tests for TNA 009 from Arne Weinberg, and TNA 010 from Shawn Rudiman. I'll post full details, sound clips and all other pertinent information in near future. Not to start another flame war about vinyl vs. CD/mp3, but for my money there's nothing better then debuting a new slab of wax to a receptive crowd. I get chills each and every time. jw On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Lori Draper girly...@gmail.com wrote: I will also be attending, not that I am anyone special, but I got one of Todd's shirts last year and hope to see some of'em around the festival! Getting there earlyish Friday to hopefully hop by Oslo and anything else that's good... maybe the Old Miami, too? It'll be my 37th birthday. If there is any 313-ish meetup activity, I'd be interested in meeting others. :) cheers. Debating driving down to Austin for Dopplereffekt's gig at the Beauty Bar, then driving straight back to Dallas to catch my flight to Detroit. However, the Dopplereffekt thing might not be worth it: 5/21/2009 10:00 PM at Beauty Bar 617 E. 7th St., Austin, Texas 78701 Cost: Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty DOPPLEREFFEKT, Discobelle DJs, Markus with A K. 21+. Dopplereffekt’s first US live performance. Presented by: Scion House Party. Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty. RSVP strictly required. Early arrival is suggested as space is limited. Entry is NOT guaranteed. Line up subject to change. For more info. go to: http://www.scion.com/houseparty/ This to me implies it could be a cluster-F and people might not get in. any 313ers trying to make the Austin gig? Let me know, I might be up for it! On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Ramon Crespo ra...@ramoncrespo.com wrote: I'll be there Friday - Tues. I'll be at Oslo Fri/Sat nights unless someone gives me a reason not to. On May 2, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
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I saw Doppler last year, not really a live gig! A backing cd with some occasional playing of the keyboard. I wasn't at all impressed. Although the diehard fans loved it. I wouldn't be in a hurry to see them again. g -Original Message- From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 May 2009 16:51 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? I will also be attending, not that I am anyone special, but I got one of Todd's shirts last year and hope to see some of'em around the festival! Getting there earlyish Friday to hopefully hop by Oslo and anything else that's good... maybe the Old Miami, too? It'll be my 37th birthday. If there is any 313-ish meetup activity, I'd be interested in meeting others. :) cheers. Debating driving down to Austin for Dopplereffekt's gig at the Beauty Bar, then driving straight back to Dallas to catch my flight to Detroit. However, the Dopplereffekt thing might not be worth it: 5/21/2009 10:00 PM at Beauty Bar 617 E. 7th St., Austin, Texas 78701 Cost: Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty DOPPLEREFFEKT, Discobelle DJs, Markus with A K. 21+. Dopplereffekt's first US live performance. Presented by: Scion House Party. Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty. RSVP strictly required. Early arrival is suggested as space is limited. Entry is NOT guaranteed. Line up subject to change. For more info. go to: http://www.scion.com/houseparty/ This to me implies it could be a cluster-F and people might not get in. any 313ers trying to make the Austin gig? Let me know, I might be up for it! On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Ramon Crespo ra...@ramoncrespo.com wrote: I'll be there Friday - Tues. I'll be at Oslo Fri/Sat nights unless someone gives me a reason not to. On May 2, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
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Looks awesome! http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=56327624 ;) Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Williams, Graham [mailto:gwilli...@eds.com] Sent: 06 May 2009 17:12 To: Lori Draper; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? I saw Doppler last year, not really a live gig! A backing cd with some occasional playing of the keyboard. I wasn't at all impressed. Although the diehard fans loved it. I wouldn't be in a hurry to see them again. g -Original Message- From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 May 2009 16:51 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? I will also be attending, not that I am anyone special, but I got one of Todd's shirts last year and hope to see some of'em around the festival! Getting there earlyish Friday to hopefully hop by Oslo and anything else that's good... maybe the Old Miami, too? It'll be my 37th birthday. If there is any 313-ish meetup activity, I'd be interested in meeting others. :) cheers. Debating driving down to Austin for Dopplereffekt's gig at the Beauty Bar, then driving straight back to Dallas to catch my flight to Detroit. However, the Dopplereffekt thing might not be worth it: 5/21/2009 10:00 PM at Beauty Bar 617 E. 7th St., Austin, Texas 78701 Cost: Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty DOPPLEREFFEKT, Discobelle DJs, Markus with A K. 21+. Dopplereffekt's first US live performance. Presented by: Scion House Party. Free with RSVP @ www.scion.com/houseparty. RSVP strictly required. Early arrival is suggested as space is limited. Entry is NOT guaranteed. Line up subject to change. For more info. go to: http://www.scion.com/houseparty/ This to me implies it could be a cluster-F and people might not get in. any 313ers trying to make the Austin gig? Let me know, I might be up for it! On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Ramon Crespo ra...@ramoncrespo.com wrote: I'll be there Friday - Tues. I'll be at Oslo Fri/Sat nights unless someone gives me a reason not to. On May 2, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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*sigh* (shakes head at line-up) won't be there again - but is anyone surprised about that? but I've got me a Sines designed 313 shirt so if you've got binoculars maybe you'll spot me in the garden getting down and dirty MEK Disclaimer The information in this email and any attachments may contain proprietary and confidential information that is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, retention or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. When addressed to our clients or vendors, any information contained in this e-mail or any attachments is subject to the terms and conditions in any governing contract. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately contact the sender and delete the e-mail.
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I'll be there Friday - Tues. I'll be at Oslo Fri/Sat nights unless someone gives me a reason not to. On May 2, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
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Going only because I am playing a monday afterparty and look forward to seeing my friends from detroit. Only a few replies because everyone's waiting for the next windsor thread. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
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I will be there, and am also looking for person or persons who want to share a room at the Shorecrest. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: is really nobody going to the festival? i saw no responses when i first posted my roll call request last thursday. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: you bet your hiney i'll be there. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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I'm going... haven't been since 01... really looking forward to it... Holly C. MacDonald-Korth hko...@jwkorth.com direct: 786 693 8652 -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:02 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) who is going to the festival??? Re: (313) festival roll call? anybody making t-shirts? is really nobody going to the festival? i saw no responses when i first posted my roll call request last thursday. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: you bet your hiney i'll be there. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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I will certainly be there! And I will, at some point, be wearing Todd Sines lovely 313 shirt from last year. And lots of great afterparties already: DTM is having a free party on Saturday night I think - free! That's nice and refreshing amidst some of the more expensive dealies. And Bang Tech 12 is having a free afterparty on Friday night. Also, Blank artists party - which I am very excited about. Osborne, Tim Sweeney, Trent Abbe, Drew Pompa Josh Dahlberg, on Sat Here, just read through the loveliness: http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?action=demf Denise -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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I'm out this year. I've only missed a couple of festivals so this is not my first choice. Looks like a decent lineup (with the usual nonsense of course). Got laid off recently so money is tight. Not a lot of room for architects in Chicago at the moment what with the housing market completely flushed down the toilet. I should make it next year no sweat, though. Party hard for us that can't make it! -Art
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I am not. It really hurts me to not go too. My reasons: combination of each/all of my core group of 5 friends who we had shared hotels/flights from every US region/etc are saying no. One is going to Spain (for some shwechno festival - lame), one is in law school, and the rest feel like they've seen enough for this year (whatever that means). For me it's like a pilgrimage, and maybe I will book a last minute flight just to see 6 hours of the festival, but I somewhat doubt it. Reason 2, I am doing a professional exam a week following the Festival. That's my story for now. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: is really nobody going to the festival? i saw no responses when i first posted my roll call request last thursday. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: you bet your hiney i'll be there. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
