RE: Slow characters visualization

2017-11-20 Thread lists via 4D_Tech 
Ferdinando,

There was an issue with memory leak in some versions that exhibit similar 
behaviour.  I know the issue existed in v16 (fixed in one of the NB), returned 
in 16r3 and 16r4, and it's been since fixed in 16r4 build 215501, but I don't 
know if it effected any v15 releases too. 

To verify if this is your issue, open a method with about 100 lines of code or 
more, scroll down to the bottom of the method (this is important to trigger the 
leak), open your task manager and look at the amount of memory 4D is taking.  
If you notice the memory grow every second, you have a version with this leak.

Regards,

Lahav

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Subject: Re: Slow characters visualization

Hi All,

I have again the issue explained below using 4D V15.5 on windows.

I notice that when i write one command or one comment in a method, 4D is very 
slowly to

display the characters typed on the keyboard and in task manager i can the see 
that 4D take until 14% of cpu...
When even the last character typed is displayed, the cpu for 4D return to 0.

No one have this issue ?

Thanks
Ferdinando

Il 11/11/2017 00:26, stardata.info ha scritto:
>
> Hi,
>
> If i open only one method 50 rows... i have the same slow.
> With 4D V15.4 not have this issue...
>
> Thanks
> /Ferdinando/
>
> Il 10/11/2017 21:00, 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com ha scritto:
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 08:01:29 -0800
>> From: Kirk Brooks
>> To: 4D iNug Technical<4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> Subject: Re: Slow characters visualization
>> Message-ID:
>>

Re: Slow characters visualization

2017-11-20 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech 
Previously, I only had problems on the Mac with version 15.4 if I had many 
large methods open. Closing everything would solve the problem.

Then I upgraded the Mac from 10.11 to 10.13 High Sierra. Now a single large 
method open is enough to make typing code very frustrating. No problems with 
16.2 on the same computer.

Just wanted to mention it for those that might be considering using 10.13 with 
4D 15. Method editing is not only slow, but startup time and any database 
operation seems perceptively slower. Probably no surprise since 4D 15 is not 
certified to work with 10.13.

John DeSoi, Ph.D.



> On Nov 20, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Just to confirm, I have also seen the issue on my MacBook Pro since v15 was 
> introduced.  It was intermittent, and I have not experienced it for a while. 
> Sometimes quitting 4D and restarting would help.  Other times it would 
> restart with the problem still present.  I never saw a clear pattern for what 
> would trigger the slowness.

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Re: Slow characters visualization

2017-11-20 Thread Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech 
Just to confirm, I have also seen the issue on my MacBook Pro since v15 was 
introduced.  It was intermittent, and I have not experienced it for a while.  
Sometimes quitting 4D and restarting would help.  Other times it would restart 
with the problem still present.  I never saw a clear pattern for what would 
trigger the slowness.

Keith - CDI

> On Nov 20, 2017, at 3:23 PM, stardata.info via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have again the issue explained below using 4D V15.5 on windows.
> 
> I notice that when i write one command or one comment in a method, 4D is very 
> slowly to
> 
> display the characters typed on the keyboard and in task manager i can the 
> see that 4D take until 14% of cpu...
> When even the last character typed is displayed, the cpu for 4D return to 0.
> 
> No one have this issue ?
> 
> Thanks
> Ferdinando
> 
> Il 11/11/2017 00:26, stardata.info ha scritto:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If i open only one method 50 rows... i have the same slow.
>> With 4D V15.4 not have this issue...
>> 
>> Thanks
>> /Ferdinando/
>> 
>> Il 10/11/2017 21:00, 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com ha scritto:
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 08:01:29 -0800
>>> From: Kirk Brooks
>>> To: 4D iNug Technical<4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Slow characters visualization
>>> Message-ID:
>>>

RE: Unable to Unregister/Register Service

2017-11-20 Thread Randy Engle via 4D_Tech 
Add,

Thanks for the info.
Will try.

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Subject: Re: Unable to Unregister/Register Service

Randy,

I have not tried it but I can only guess that the attempt was made while the 
Service was running. Try this, make sure the 4D Server is not running. Run 4D 
Server with the database manually and try to Unregister then. If you still have 
a problem then we are definitely dealing with something out of ordinary.

Regards,
Add




On 11/20/17, 10:08 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Randy Engle via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

We have a customer that we are trying to update.

They can run the server app as an admin, but “Register Current Database as 
a Service” is disabled.

When we try to “Unregister Current Database” or “Unregister all Server 
Services”, the services list only show the service as “disabled”.

I know I’ve seen this before, but don’t remember what we did.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Randy Engle

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RE: Unable to Unregister/Register Service

2017-11-20 Thread Dennis, Neil via 4D_Tech 
  >  They can run the server app as an admin, but “Register Current Database as 
a Service” is disabled.


If you are not running the 4D Server Application "as an Administrator" (right 
click and select run as an administrator) then the menus will be disabled.


Neil






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Re: Unable to Unregister/Register Service

2017-11-20 Thread Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech 
Randy,

I have not tried it but I can only guess that the attempt was made while the 
Service was running. Try this, make sure the 4D Server is not running. Run 4D 
Server with the database manually and try to Unregister then. If you still have 
a problem then we are definitely dealing with something out of ordinary.

Regards,
Add




On 11/20/17, 10:08 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Randy Engle via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

We have a customer that we are trying to update.

They can run the server app as an admin, but “Register Current Database as 
a Service” is disabled.

When we try to “Unregister Current Database” or “Unregister all Server 
Services”, the services list only show the service as “disabled”.

I know I’ve seen this before, but don’t remember what we did.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Randy Engle

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Unable to Unregister/Register Service

2017-11-20 Thread Randy Engle via 4D_Tech 
We have a customer that we are trying to update.

They can run the server app as an admin, but “Register Current Database as a 
Service” is disabled.

When we try to “Unregister Current Database” or “Unregister all Server 
Services”, the services list only show the service as “disabled”.

I know I’ve seen this before, but don’t remember what we did.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Randy Engle

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