Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

2018-07-28 Thread Lloyd SIgler via 4D_Tech
Do you have the data files open on another Machine?

I will get that message if I am trying to open while the data files are already 
open on another machine.

Lloyd


> On Jul 28, 2018, at 7:41 PM, donkoff via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> HI All, 
> After successfully building and packaging a signed app (verified),opening
> the package installed in in High Sierra. 
> 
> When I launch it, a confirm Dialog asking "Are you sure you want to open the
> structure file in red only mode."
> Yes, opens it and it seems fine. 
> 
> The structure file is compiled so read only mode seems appropriate. Why the
> Confirm?
> Thanks,
> Don
> 
> 
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Re: Downloaded 4D app: structure file in read only mode

2018-07-28 Thread donkoff via 4D_Tech
HI All, 
After successfully building and packaging a signed app (verified),opening
the package installed in in High Sierra. 

When I launch it, a confirm Dialog asking "Are you sure you want to open the
structure file in red only mode."
Yes, opens it and it seems fine. 

The structure file is compiled so read only mode seems appropriate. Why the
Confirm?
Thanks,
Don



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Re: Feature request thoughts

2018-07-28 Thread Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech
Command-shift-[ and command-shift-] do the job in Safari and in the Finder.

> On 26 Jul 2018, at 20:56, Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Command+Tab cannot be used for switching tabs because it is used by the OS 
> for switching applications.
> 
> The shortcut for switching tabs is Control+Tab to go to the next tab and 
> Control+Shift+Tab to go to the previous tab.
> 
> -Tim
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Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-28 Thread Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech
Perhaps a useful addition to the HTML docs would be a comprehensive index
that can be quickly searched. Yes, you can search the entire docs, but it
can take quite a while. If all the text was already indexed that would be
much more useful.

On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 12:49, UKVetDerm via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:

> The original very large box of paper manuals with my first version of 4D
> (likely v3), having moved up first from Filemaker and then 4D light/first?
> was the way I got to grips with 4D.
>
> The quality of the documentation for new adopters and so the continuation
> of the platform should not be under-estimated. For me HTML works well when
> you vaguely know what you are doing and need a quick check, but high
> quality PDFs would be great (like those for v6.5 for instance).
>
> Steve
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Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-28 Thread UKVetDerm via 4D_Tech
The original very large box of paper manuals with my first version of 4D 
(likely v3), having moved up first from Filemaker and then 4D light/first? was 
the way I got to grips with 4D.

The quality of the documentation for new adopters and so the continuation of 
the platform should not be under-estimated. For me HTML works well when you 
vaguely know what you are doing and need a quick check, but high quality PDFs 
would be great (like those for v6.5 for instance).

Steve




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Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-28 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech

> On 28 Jul 2018, at 20:15 AEST, Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> In the new version you cannot do this there is
> no list of commands in the current pdf docs. 


Every time 4D managed to provide a PDF-manual I open it up in Acrobat (Not the 
reader!!) and index it by using steps provided by David Adams (greetings to the 
South Coast :-) ).

If you like I can send you the Language Prefs for v16 for evaluation.

Cheers

Jörg
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Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-28 Thread Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech
My bias towards pdf is possibly because I'm not the primary coder of our
product. Therefore quite often if I am writing code I need to check the
documentation and read the information to make sure understood it correctly.
For example if I was looking to use the command  distinct values.  In the V
11 documentation PDF you could go to the table of contents and look up the
command and the page number. In the new version you cannot do this there is
no list of commands in the current pdf docs. 

The new versions of the documentation be HTML or PDF are simply not as good
as the old ones. The fonts are poor particularly if you are longsighted like
me. 

Navigating the HTML versions is not as good as PDF. The main reason is as
you navigate through the hierarchical list you lose the ability to expand
and collapse the bookmarks. Therefore you are continually having to go back
through the hierarchy to read another command. With the PDF version the
bookmarks are way better than anything in HTML. This improves the
readability.

It is such a simple issue to generate the PDF documentation with decent
fonts I am perplexed as to why this is not been done. 

Paul



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Re: v17 PDF-Manuals

2018-07-28 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech

> On 28 Jul 2018, at 09:39 AEST, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry that I comment on your thread. I didn’t see the Jorg only sign.


You’re forgiven!


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